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#### thelaw

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##### Flat 4 - why do they want this hidden?
« on: February 16, 2016, 02:47:58 AM »
The following is a method that the Mods over @ Roulette.cc are actively trying to keep suppressed..........not sure why. The author has also deleted it from other forums.
Credit to Ken from Roulette.cc:

Easy to play and flat betting. Only 4 numbers to bet. I have great results at Dublin, only practice money. Also great results playing at the casino, 00 wheel. What bugs the hell out of me? Are the nay-sayers that will play it anyways or at minimum, will test it out. I debated FOR WEEKS, if I wanted to post it but what the heck!

I'll list the 9 sets of numbers >>

0 wheel
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A) 5-6-22-32
B) 15-18-24-27
C) 13-16-19-29
D) 4-7-33-36
E) 1-11-21-28
H) 2-12-20-30
J) 8-14-25-35
K) 3-17-23-31
L) 9-10-26-34....(No 0 in the mix)

9 sets for the 00 wheel >>
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A) 0-00-17-18
B) 5-6-27-28
C) 9-10-21-22
D) 25-26-33-34
E) 15-16-29-30
H) 3-4-11-12
J)  7-8-23-24
K) 19-20-35-36
L) 13-14-31-32  (No 1 or 2 in the mix)

Notice something with the sets of numbers (either wheel), the numbers are all spaced out evenly. To start off >> Track the first 18 spins. I will use the SINGLE zero wheel for this example. 20 hits: write H.

32 hits: write A
34 hits: write L
1 hits: write E
0 hits: write...nothing. etc etc until you have 18 tracked NOT counting if a 0 hits OR a 1 or 2 on the 00 wheel.

We have read, perhaps played methods regarding a TREND for the outside bets, correct? Well, this is TREND betting for the inside, 4 numbers.

I use to bet on the furthest back unhit set but lost too much so I CORRECTED the mistake, just like you're suppose to. If the spins are fast, you must always be looking at your list of 18 so you can DECIDE fast enough.

We will be betting on the 'letter' (4 numbers) that have appeared the MOST in the last 18 recorded, real simple. In other words.....what is temporarily HOT at the time. Flat bet those 4 numbers with the *SAME* unit sizes per spin. I do it at \$15 per, \$60 per spin.

As each NEW 'letter' you jot down, cross off the furthest back hit 'letter'. You will always have 18. Never more, never less. What about a tie? Usually (not always) it will be 4 hits within the 18 recorded.

Sometimes it might be a TIE with 3 or even 4. Take either one as a tie breaker (base it on nothing) but NOT both sets of 4. In terms of averages, we only need one hit in 9 spins...which means 2 hits within the 18 spins.

Anything over the 2 hits, is profit. Quite a few times you will have 5-6 hits within the 18. What I like about this method.....as one set is becoming cold (dropping out of the 18) a DIFFERENT set is now becoming hot and you will be on it. I also like the idea of spreading out the 4 numbers evenly. As soon as that ball passes one of your bet numbers, its coming up in only a few more pockets on another one of your bets! When to leave/quit? Its up to you. This method has NOTHING to do with sessions.

SIDENOTE: You noticed I skipped a couple letters. The 'F' and the 'G'. But why?

Again, I corrected a problem. The C and G look too much alike, I was making mistakes if I was looking too fast. The E and F look too much alike, I was making mistakes if I was looking too fast.

4 in one group, 4 in another group? I would SKIP betting until the tie is broken, it won't take long! Like I said, I NOW track the last 13 hit, not 18. It cuts down alot on ties.

"meanwhile other numbers/letters becoming hot" >>> BINGO, this is the POINT of the method. As one group may start to fade, another group really takes off. There are quite a few times I see 7 of the same letter within the 13 recorded. Of course all 7 of those you most likely would not be on but perhaps 3-4 of those spins, YES, you would be betting on those four numbers. After THAT group kind of fades, usually (not always) something else takes its place and dont forget, all four numbers are spread out on the wheel perfectly.

Love to get some feedback on this. The author is refusing to comment any further on this method, and claims to have "tweaks" that improve the method. Thanks!

#### Trilobite

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##### Re: Flat 4 - why do they want this hidden?
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2016, 04:13:14 AM »

Love to get some feedback on this. The author is refusing to comment any further on this method, and claims to have "tweaks" that improve the method. Thanks!

Always a good start to bet on the identified hottest numbers, and this method does attempt to do that.

The author, 'Ken' historically goes quiet soon after posting a method. Can't blame him really as he's been posting methods for years and people tend to waste a lot of his time with silly questions.

He also historically claims to have tweaks that improve these methods. That is a clear sign the methods aren't really working properly to begin with and reverse engineering is the only hope of salvation.

Eventually he moves on to another idea.... nothing wrong with that as that's what makes the game fun to study.

Don't expect to win forever with this one.
« Last Edit: February 16, 2016, 04:15:07 AM by Trilobite »

#### ayamas

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##### Re: Flat 4 - why do they want this hidden?
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2016, 11:09:08 AM »

« Last Edit: February 17, 2016, 11:13:16 AM by ayamas »

#### mogul397

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##### Re: Flat 4 - why do they want this hidden?
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2016, 07:37:07 PM »
The following is a method that the Mods over @ Roulette.cc are actively trying to keep suppressed..........not sure why. The author has also deleted it from other forums.
Credit to Ken from Roulette.cc:

Easy to play and flat betting. Only 4 numbers to bet. I have great results at Dublin, only practice money. Also great results playing at the casino, 00 wheel. What bugs the hell out of me? Are the nay-sayers that will play it anyways or at minimum, will test it out. I debated FOR WEEKS, if I wanted to post it but what the heck!

I'll list the 9 sets of numbers >>

0 wheel
-------------

A) 5-6-22-32
B) 15-18-24-27
C) 13-16-19-29
D) 4-7-33-36
E) 1-11-21-28
H) 2-12-20-30
J) 8-14-25-35
K) 3-17-23-31
L) 9-10-26-34....(No 0 in the mix)

9 sets for the 00 wheel >>
-----------------------------------
A) 0-00-17-18
B) 5-6-27-28
C) 9-10-21-22
D) 25-26-33-34
E) 15-16-29-30
H) 3-4-11-12
J)  7-8-23-24
K) 19-20-35-36
L) 13-14-31-32  (No 1 or 2 in the mix)

Notice something with the sets of numbers (either wheel), the numbers are all spaced out evenly. To start off >> Track the first 18 spins. I will use the SINGLE zero wheel for this example. 20 hits: write H.

32 hits: write A
34 hits: write L
1 hits: write E
0 hits: write...nothing. etc etc until you have 18 tracked NOT counting if a 0 hits OR a 1 or 2 on the 00 wheel.

We have read, perhaps played methods regarding a TREND for the outside bets, correct? Well, this is TREND betting for the inside, 4 numbers.

I use to bet on the furthest back unhit set but lost too much so I CORRECTED the mistake, just like you're suppose to. If the spins are fast, you must always be looking at your list of 18 so you can DECIDE fast enough.

We will be betting on the 'letter' (4 numbers) that have appeared the MOST in the last 18 recorded, real simple. In other words.....what is temporarily HOT at the time. Flat bet those 4 numbers with the *SAME* unit sizes per spin. I do it at \$15 per, \$60 per spin.

As each NEW 'letter' you jot down, cross off the furthest back hit 'letter'. You will always have 18. Never more, never less. What about a tie? Usually (not always) it will be 4 hits within the 18 recorded.

Sometimes it might be a TIE with 3 or even 4. Take either one as a tie breaker (base it on nothing) but NOT both sets of 4. In terms of averages, we only need one hit in 9 spins...which means 2 hits within the 18 spins.

Anything over the 2 hits, is profit. Quite a few times you will have 5-6 hits within the 18. What I like about this method.....as one set is becoming cold (dropping out of the 18) a DIFFERENT set is now becoming hot and you will be on it. I also like the idea of spreading out the 4 numbers evenly. As soon as that ball passes one of your bet numbers, its coming up in only a few more pockets on another one of your bets! When to leave/quit? Its up to you. This method has NOTHING to do with sessions.

SIDENOTE: You noticed I skipped a couple letters. The 'F' and the 'G'. But why?

Again, I corrected a problem. The C and G look too much alike, I was making mistakes if I was looking too fast. The E and F look too much alike, I was making mistakes if I was looking too fast.

4 in one group, 4 in another group? I would SKIP betting until the tie is broken, it won't take long! Like I said, I NOW track the last 13 hit, not 18. It cuts down alot on ties.

"meanwhile other numbers/letters becoming hot" >>> BINGO, this is the POINT of the method. As one group may start to fade, another group really takes off. There are quite a few times I see 7 of the same letter within the 13 recorded. Of course all 7 of those you most likely would not be on but perhaps 3-4 of those spins, YES, you would be betting on those four numbers. After THAT group kind of fades, usually (not always) something else takes its place and dont forget, all four numbers are spread out on the wheel perfectly.

Love to get some feedback on this. The author is refusing to comment any further on this method, and claims to have "tweaks" that improve the method. Thanks!

As usual, I don't understand.  You track 18 spins, and you look for 32 hits?

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##### Re: Flat 4 - why do they want this hidden?
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2016, 01:13:19 AM »
mogul

you are tooooo funny

track 18 spins, whichever letter hit most bet those 4 numbers

#### dobbelsteen

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##### Re: Flat 4 - why do they want this hidden?
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2016, 10:02:44 AM »
For so far I understand this method, it is a normal 4 number bet system.Such systems are easy to program and to analyze.The short run sequence is very large. That means that every closed sample can end in a profit or a loss. It is not a strategy. The main feature of a system or strategy is, it must be simple. The time for taking a decision and placing your bets on the table is too short for complex methods.

#### mogul397

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##### Re: Flat 4 - why do they want this hidden?
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2016, 05:14:46 PM »
mogul

you are tooooo funny

track 18 spins, whichever letter hit most bet those 4 numbers

RG, so are you.  After I posted the ridiculous question I realized what I read.

Yes, I do get stupider and stupider every day. On the positive side of that,
even though I'm only 59 my nest is feathered, and unless I specifically go to
a casino with a plan (win or lose, which almost never happens), the money doesn't matter
to me any more. For that I am thankful.

But yes. You are right. My brain either doesn't work as fast or as well.

I trade online as well. Back about 5-7 years ago I remember someone saying in
a chat room, "I better learn to trade before my mind goes, and I can't do it"
Like trading from muscle memory.  Well I'm there.

When I look at you I think you're a little younger. What I "feel" sometimes is a bit
of financial desperation, like I had once. I understand the position. Am I right?
And I was a little harsh and desperate to find the thing to work even if I had to
make it work.  sucky mental position. Like I said, glad to be out of it.

Let's learn to win.

#### mogul397

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##### Re: Flat 4 - why do they want this hidden?
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2016, 05:17:35 PM »
mogul

you are tooooo funny

track 18 spins, whichever letter hit most bet those 4 numbers

Toooooo funny?

That's like a girl that's toooo purdy.
Having too much fun.
HAVING TOO MUCH MONEY!!!!!!!

It's impossible to bte toooooo funny (unless someone gets hurt laughing)

played the country song backwards and got back my house, my wife, and my dog............

(You're mileage may vary, depending on your loss)

#### Reyth

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##### Re: Flat 4 - why do they want this hidden?
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2016, 05:23:00 PM »
LOL a poetic comedian. XD

#### mogul397

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##### Re: Flat 4 - why do they want this hidden?
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2016, 05:25:09 PM »
For so far I understand this method, it is a normal 4 number bet system.Such systems are easy to program and to analyze.The short run sequence is very large. That means that every closed sample can end in a profit or a loss. It is not a strategy. The main feature of a system or strategy is, it must be simple. The time for taking a decision and placing your bets on the table is too short for complex methods.

Outside of the fact that this is right, I ran some zumma tests and it doesn't
work out very well.

Didn't test much, but what almost works better is play the 16 numbers from the
4 letters in the last row. Usually hits in those next 4.

#### mogul397

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##### Re: Flat 4 - why do they want this hidden?
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2016, 07:19:46 PM »
LOL a poetic comedian. XD

When I was young, I told everyone I was going to be a comedian.

They all laughed..........

(They're not laughing any more!!!!!)