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Are Roulette Computers and Timers Cheating Devices?

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Are Roulette Computers and Timers Cheating Devices?
« on: March 05, 2018, 10:02:42 PM »
Are roulette computers and timers cheating devices?
Yes or No.
 
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Re: Are Roulette Computers and Timers Cheating Devices?
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2018, 11:17:59 PM »
Computers yes.
It was used at the Ritz Carlton UK by a team of 3 and they won  about $2 million in a few days.
But they kept the profits because they didn't affect the outcome of the spin.
Now days any electronic device, like cell phone near the wheel is not allowed.
Cheating or not, nothing is allowed after this incident.
Just manual recording on a score card. That's the only thing allowed.
 
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Re: Are Roulette Computers and Timers Cheating Devices?
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2018, 11:46:34 PM »
What is a line between computer and timer? Both are devices, my device can be both, depends on programme loaded.
   Both are not allowed, both are legal in UK.  I do not know why they allow changing rotor speed in the middle of spin, that is a cheating. It's same if dealer put his hand to change rotor speed during trial. Worst of all, it can be manually operated for preprogrammed change.
 

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Re: Are Roulette Computers and Timers Cheating Devices?
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2018, 12:26:38 AM »
They are cheating because someone has made a rule that says it is cheating. From what I have read about computers though, they are hard to use anyway, let alone discreetly without being caught. I don't believe they are a guaranteed way to win big. At the end of the day if there was one that worked incredibly well every time and with little skill needed, I would try to use it. Because I believe casinos try to cheat us players as much as they possibly can including the house edge and unfair payouts, plus all the tricks they use to try and make you relax and bet more or forget your system, etc. Casinos are dirty things and the only reason I go to them is to try and take their money - I really don't care how I do it but in the end I do not think computers are worth the risk.
 
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Re: Are Roulette Computers and Timers Cheating Devices?
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2018, 02:12:01 AM »
Computers are not magic devices that will anyone win without working.
   There are computers that are made to never win, that's for sure. Those are comercial products. There are others , those are non comercial.
   However, even if computer is made to win, it's not garanty. Computers do not give advantage, maximum computer can do is to help player to explore what already on offer by wheel and ball itself.
   As with any tool, knowledge how to use is required.Up till now, l think lm only one who gives this knowledge and will not sell computer to someone who wasn't able to win without it.
   BTW,  my computer doesn't really require super skills or super knowledge to operate. If person understand vb, it's enough. 
 
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Re: Are Roulette Computers and Timers Cheating Devices?
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2018, 02:29:56 AM »
Yes a roulette computer and timer are considered cheating in some locations and not others.

Regardless, the human brain is not a cheating device.  In my opinion there's already cheating taking place by the casinos.  There ability to filter out winners and ban them while retaining only the losers and addicted gamblers is predatory gambling at it's finest.

It's said that taxes on gambling and cigarettes are often a tax on the poor and ignorant.  The experts aren't wrong.
 

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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2018, 02:32:26 AM »
Interesting question.
Technically, it depends on the venue. In USA such devices (helping prediction) are prohibited. In most parts of the world actually, roulette computers they are illegal.
 

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Re: Are Roulette Computers and Timers Cheating Devices?
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2018, 02:42:00 AM »
I see that some purveyors of covert computing devices, suffer the effects of elocution.
A short in the grammar board perhaps?
 

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Re: Are Roulette Computers and Timers Cheating Devices?
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2018, 02:49:44 AM »


Perhaps you've failed to realize that some of these people are form Europe and speak other languages.  FYI...some of them speak several of them too.   Most of them have more knowledge and experience with the game than anyone you will ever meet, so I'd do my best to decode what they have to say if I were you. ;)   They also usually "speak" basic probability quite well, which is something that you can't really say about the roulette system designers.  ;)
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Re: Are Roulette Computers and Timers Cheating Devices?
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2018, 03:03:37 AM »
The point being made about casinos cheating is intresting; very very interesting indeed.
In maths, two negatives make a positive but two wrongs don't make a right.
You cheat because they cheat is unethical on your part; it's nothing more than an excuse for bad (negative) behavior.
This way of thinking is why the problems in this world keep on feeding themselves.
If you feel casinos cheat then don't go to them. Do not lower your standards to who you actually are; rather try to be the better person you aspire to be.
 

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Re: Are Roulette Computers and Timers Cheating Devices?
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2018, 03:30:08 AM »
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You cheat because they cheat is unethical on your part; it's nothing more than an excuse for bad (negative) behavior.

No, I do NOT cheat and I do NOT use a timer or a computer.  I use my brain.  I have been through more gaming investigations than anyone you will ever meet and have come out squeaky clean each and every time.

There is no law that requires you to play blissfully ignorant while blowing spit bubbles.

 

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Re: Are Roulette Computers and Timers Cheating Devices?
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2018, 03:33:34 AM »
First things first, roulette computers is a farce in itself.
 

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Re: Are Roulette Computers and Timers Cheating Devices?
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2018, 03:37:53 AM »
Real, Micky was not referring to you. :-)
 

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Re: Are Roulette Computers and Timers Cheating Devices?
« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2018, 05:04:14 AM »
What's easier; learning honest AP or learning how to conceal a gaming device in a casino?
 

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Re: Are Roulette Computers and Timers Cheating Devices?
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2018, 04:40:56 PM »
Doesn't a lot of AP involve finding flaws in the wheel? So in itself that could be deemed cheating.  Its like in sport when the referee makes a bad call, you know he got it wrong but you say nothing because its giving you or your team an advantage. Maybe not blatant cheating but perhaps a bit underhanded. Footballers diving to get a whistle is another  exploiting the referee. Just like exploiting a poor wheel.

My point was never feel bad for the casinos if you take their money. Never!
 
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