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Herby

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Re: Intelligent Progression
« Reply #30 on: March 03, 2018, 08:31:37 AM »
Hi Reyth,

do you have a sharper version of this picture above ?

I programmed a simulation which runs through the values of the table of your first post:
until now it doesn't hold:
- 20 units win, or
- max. 100 units loss

I have to work it over

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Re: Intelligent Progression
« Reply #31 on: March 03, 2018, 08:39:14 AM »
the picture above shows the win-loss distribution of 2x 2.000.000 trials
-> 1) blue points, 2) orange points

2x to test the repeat of the structure in the distribution
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Re: Intelligent Progression
« Reply #32 on: March 03, 2018, 09:53:09 AM »
" 3) Total number of betting events (here its 10) "

My results are based on betting until you reach the border of the table.
So there were 10 spins minimum.

I' ll give it another try with exactly 10 spins.
 
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Re: Intelligent Progression
« Reply #33 on: March 03, 2018, 10:20:39 AM »
Thanks Herby!  On the issue of 10 bets, in reality the session should end when one of three events occurs:

a) Exit the matrix from the right side
b) Exit the matrix from the bottom
c) Land on the lowest right space in the matrix (loss of 100 units)

I want to stress a few things:

1) I have run tests myself and show a win rate of 84%.  With a 1:5 profit/loss ratio, that is a hole big enough to drive a mack truck through.  The system as presented in the OP is presented with that understanding, not as a ready made HG.

2) I think the test results MIGHT improve if the matrix is started over at the beginning with any par/+ balance.

3) In the tests I ran, if the length of the matrix is DOUBLED, it only loses 6 times in a row as a once-in-a-lifetime event (as opposed to 9 times with the original system).

4) The genius with this progression system is not the method as presented but the IMPROVEMENT over the Martingale; this progression risks LESS to gain MORE.  When we risk less, this frees up capital that can be used to lengthen the progression.  A longer progression means a smaller chance of losing; i.e. a stronger system.  When we gain more, its also an opportunity to bet less which allows for the progression to become even longer.

5) With the PROPER configuration using the calculations of this formula I am confident that I can create a winning system.

6) Your testing is very helpful and thank you.

Btw, as a side note:

Let's focus on this great system/gift that Reyth shared with us.

It was Sputnik that actually shared this with us!
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Re: Intelligent Progression
« Reply #34 on: March 03, 2018, 10:04:43 PM »
Thanks for your Infos Reyth,
they are very interesting.

Especially point 3) I'd like to test more: you doubled the matrix
is it possible for you to give some info to this doubling ?
Thanks in advance
 

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Re: Intelligent Progression
« Reply #35 on: March 04, 2018, 12:42:59 AM »
Well Herby, I didn't have the formula back then either so I just did an X,Y counter that tracked the coordinates of the "cursor"; if it went off an edge, its a win.  Otherwise it lands on the final white square and its a loss.

One thing to keep in mind is that the bets are structured to manifest the win in "10" spaces but if you double the matrix, its "20" spaces and THAT means that they are evenly spread out over the full "20" bets.

Unfortunately, I being a non-Italian speaker, do not yet have the formula for caclulating the progression so I can't plug in numbers.  People DO know and ARE using this -- I just have to find it. :/

Anyone that is heavily math inclined can reverse engineer it using the 3 data points I posted above.

Its something like "with X bets remaining, how much do I have to bet with a .48 chance of hitting to reach a target goal of 20% profit"?
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Re: Intelligent Progression
« Reply #36 on: March 04, 2018, 01:41:38 PM »
@Reyth >> I did not read every post so forgive me. Can this betting style work if we CHOOSE which color we want to bet? Can it be configured so we can CHOOSE?

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Re: Intelligent Progression
« Reply #37 on: March 04, 2018, 04:05:22 PM »
Well as presented it is configured for either the dominant OR sleeping color.  IF a person wanted to choose they certainly can because if we look closely we see both colors have the same progression.  So OF COURSE you are free to choose your color every spin! :D

Great point, I hadn't even thought of that! :D

It really is one progression!

And NOW I have this amazing idea to track all the EC's and only play the one that is nearest to the top/left edge....

I think the key here is to combine this system with the parachute system but I can't do that without the formula. >.<

I found the un-rounded chart:

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Re: Intelligent Progression
« Reply #38 on: March 05, 2018, 01:38:46 AM »
It is possibly to create similar intelligent, but 3 step progression matrix for the palestis single dozen system?
 

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Re: Intelligent Progression
« Reply #39 on: March 05, 2018, 01:44:53 AM »
Yes, but only if we know the formula and have a desired bankroll amount applied over a desired number of bets.
 

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Re: Intelligent Progression
« Reply #40 on: March 05, 2018, 02:44:13 AM »
I can willingly help you to create some similar progression to play this system for 3 step dozens. Example after 20 step +10 unit profit, or anything. How should make it?
 

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Re: Intelligent Progression
« Reply #41 on: March 05, 2018, 03:28:14 AM »
We need someone that knows Italian to scour the internet and find the formula that makes the progression shown in the pictures.  Its called the Masaniello and we need to know the math that tells us how much to bet.  Then its just a matter of plugging our variables into the formula and making an app to do the calculations (or just making an excel chart).
 

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Re: Intelligent Progression
« Reply #42 on: March 05, 2018, 01:30:51 PM »
I don't know Italian but I know people that maybe could help. Which webpage or text is it?
 

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Re: Intelligent Progression
« Reply #43 on: March 06, 2018, 09:22:53 AM »
That's the problem.  I can't find the exact webpage where the work of Massimo and his partner are located because I don't speak Italian.

The two people that created this formula are called:

Massimo Mondò and Ciro Masaniello

It has been said that they published the specifics of the formula AND the chart in the OP.
 
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Re: Intelligent Progression
« Reply #44 on: March 06, 2018, 11:00:03 AM »

Hi Reyth,

I found Massimo's email. Better to ask himself imo.

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Cheers,
Optimistique
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