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Trilobite

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Re: Intelligent Progression
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2018, 09:28:13 AM »
I cannot put intelligent AND progression in the same sentence. Sorry, dont ban me.

Ken

Hey Ken, remember when you dragged us all through this same mud when you called yourself  "the progressions junkie"?

So back then you weren't intelligent? So what's changed, please explain....
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Re: Intelligent Progression
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2018, 09:35:31 AM »
Keep calm and be a gentleman or get banned :-)

Let's focus on this great system/gift that Reyth shared with us.
 

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Re: Intelligent Progression
« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2018, 09:48:40 AM »
Hey Kav, you can ban me anytime you feel the need.

I won't mind at all.
 

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Re: Intelligent Progression
« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2018, 11:21:54 AM »
Thanks God and Good Morning All.

Reyth thank you so much for sharing this.

Please I request you to put sample spins with unit size here (not r-sim). I have not understand this till now. I appreciate you assist me. thanks a lot.

1) do we have to play both colors?
2) how?

regards,
SugTips
 

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Re: Intelligent Progression
« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2018, 11:37:29 AM »
the only way I would lose is if I encountered a streak of 20 EC in a row, with a required bankroll of 1200 units.
wrote Reyth
This is the same bust as SSB. So I am very curious whether the Intelligent progression can beat the beautiful permanence of the SSB method. Till now nobody has accept my challenge.

SSB is for new members perhaps unknown.
 
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Re: Intelligent Progression
« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2018, 11:51:02 AM »
Optimistique, thanks for your post.
Can you please re-post with better formatting?
Here is how:
https://forum.roulette30.com/index.php?topic=1441.0
https://forum.roulette30.com/index.php?topic=2040.0

Hi Kav,Here is the screenshot of the Italian site:



I used google translate at my first post on thread.
 
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Re: Intelligent Progression
« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2018, 01:57:03 PM »
@Bombus/Trilobite >> I love when you post this stuff because you MAKE MY POINT for me. Its less posting I need to do.

A) It was "progression lunatic", get it right.

B) How many posts have I done in regards to, myself preaching to "you people", learn newer things as the years go by. From year to year, look at the PAST and locate (if possible) areas that you can improve. I am the poster child for learning (and talking about) mistakes. Its not embarrassing, should it be? (lol) Dont be STUCK year after year.

Ken
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Re: Intelligent Progression
« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2018, 06:03:50 AM »
DEMO Video

This is a video demonstration of how to use this for EC betting.

I thing that I have realized about this system is that it always bets the hottest EC, without having to track any data! :D
« Last Edit: March 01, 2018, 06:30:12 AM by Reyth »
 
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Re: Intelligent Progression
« Reply #23 on: March 02, 2018, 01:37:21 AM »
I am Italian. Unfortunately my English is not very good, as you all already know.
  Anyway, I will be glad to help for translation purposes.

 
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Re: Intelligent Progression
« Reply #24 on: March 02, 2018, 04:42:06 AM »
Wow!  I didn't know you were Italian sir!  The good thing is that Italian is Latin-based and so translations are for the most part, precise.  Gosh if I knew Italian I know I could find the actual ratios for this! :D

Does this pdf give the formula for calculating the bet size?

http://scommessealraddoppio.weebly.com/uploads/4/5/2/4/45243211/guida_masaniello_deluxe.pdf

Is this the formula?



Found in this thread:

https://www.matematicamente.it/forum/statistica-scommessa-vincente-long-term-t74956.html
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Re: Intelligent Progression
« Reply #25 on: March 02, 2018, 09:23:14 AM »
Without speaking italian, first I see is a wrong equation: (sorry for repeating myself  ;D )
P(X<1)=1-P(X=0)

correct:  P(X>=1)=1-P(X=0)

P.S.: next one
(20/38)^10=~99.8%

correct: 1 - (20/38)^10 = ~ 99.8%

these seem to be typos

short translation: is is not possible to win with any kind of progression, mathematical right argumentated

This statements are made without considering the pdf
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Re: Intelligent Progression
« Reply #26 on: March 02, 2018, 10:47:55 AM »
Thanks.  I saw what he was doing after I posted it and recognized the argument I have seen so many times in the past.  Maybe the OP in that thread is discussing the formula tho... :D
 
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Re: Intelligent Progression
« Reply #27 on: March 02, 2018, 01:54:14 PM »
I think the formule compute the  chance of the 10 step Martingale for the EC .

this is the same for 10 step SSB
 
 

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Re: Intelligent Progression
« Reply #28 on: March 02, 2018, 06:22:52 PM »
This could work well for hit and run using high value chips. When you see a long run of ECs that are fairly balanced, i.e 5 reds and 5 blacks in last 10 spins with no more than 2 in a row of either colour,  then begin playing.  Its unlikely an even spread will continue, you should find there will be a dominant EC over the next 10 spins or so. The beauty of this chart is you don't need to try and pick which one its going to be! Just go with the flow.  Play high chips, win 20 or maybe even a bit less and get out of there before the ECs start to even out again.
 
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Re: Intelligent Progression
« Reply #29 on: March 03, 2018, 01:07:42 AM »
Some unique concepts about this system:

1) Raise strongly when you win except when halfway to your target goal and start betting less and less
2) Bet less when you lose except when "halfway" (really situation dependent) to your target goal and starting betting the same OR more and more
3) It doesn't focus on your current balance but instead the chances to win after a set number of bets

One of the secrets about this formula is that it is always tracking the percentage chances of getting a hit automatically; the bet amounts always take this into account.  So its simultaneously tracking the dominant EC AND the statistics.

This method allows for far less money to be risked than a normal up as you lose progression.  If I just had the formula I know I could make this win not just for EC's but any bet selection.

One of the main reasons that I am so confident is, what if when betting an EC you always had a second chance on a losing bet so that in order to lose you would need 2 in a row to beat you?  It would make it harder to lose, right?

Another main reason is the fact that I can make the calculations extend much longer than 10 spins and always keep the "risk less to gain more" advantage.

All I need is the ratios calculation formula and there are people on the interwebs that know this formula and are using it; most of them are Italian and using it for sports betting but not all of them because there are people using it for roulette...

Here is an example of someone that knows the formula and is using this for roulette:



The formula uses 3 data points:

1) Total bankroll risked (here its 100 units)
2) Percentage chance of a win (here its .4865)
3) Total number of betting events (here its 10)

Talos' system is something like 275 or 300 betting events (not ever reached) and risking  something like 1400 units, where he quits at +1 or better.  If I had the formula, I could just punch those figures in and duplicate his system results. :)

That is not my actual goal but is certainly something I would try to see what happens. :)
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