### Author Topic: law of the third system  (Read 1818 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

#### Robbert

• New
• Posts: 9
• Thanked: 10 times
##### law of the third system
« on: January 19, 2018, 02:14:03 PM »
Hi there guys!
I have been snooping around on this forum for almost a year now, tested many systems with no luck.

But i think i have come up with something that i want to share with you!
I have been playing this sytem for 6 hours today, and i am up 2000 units i think.First of all exuse me for my bad english!
Second of all here is the system:

The system is based on the law of the third. In every 36 spin cycle there well be 2/3 repeaters that hit 3 times or more.
We are going for the 2 repeaters that hit 2 or more times.

Begin the session with writing all the numbers spun.
If it spun 1, you write down 1. and so on.
If there is a repeater in the 36 spin cycle you bet 1 unit on the repeater.You do that with all the repeaters, and the bet stays in the cycle.
The aim is to get the 2 repeaters that hit 2/3 times.

When you are at +- the 30 spin, and there is no hit. You begin betting more on the numbers.I use the 1,2,4,6,8 progression, but you can change that in whatever you like.

Maybe i have got something,or i am extremely lucky today.

« Last Edit: January 19, 2018, 02:16:22 PM by Robbert »

The following users thanked this post: kav, Reyth

#### Janusz

• Mature Member
• Posts: 167
• Thanked: 106 times
##### Re: law of the third system
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2018, 03:46:15 PM »
If you had really read this forum, you would have found this and would have found it tank.

#### MickyP

• Hero Member
• Posts: 1316
• Thanked: 562 times
• Gender:
##### Re: law of the third system
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2018, 04:01:21 PM »
Playing systems/strategies blind without testing them yourself is not wise. Testing will allow you to familiarise yourself with he different aspects of play. I bet many of your losses can be attributed to changes you make to an existing method or just simply playing it incorrectly.

Anyway, welcome to the forum.

#### MickyP

• Hero Member
• Posts: 1316
• Thanked: 562 times
• Gender:
##### Re: law of the third system
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2018, 04:06:44 PM »
Robbert, take a look at mr j's hot number thread.

• New
• Posts: 40
• Thanked: 32 times
##### Re: law of the third system
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2018, 07:25:35 PM »
Hi Robbert
There are cycles of 37 where there are no 3peaters.
RJEaton created a spread sheet with 66 000 37 spin cycles where you can see this.

I tried to attach it to this post, but it is too large.
I can email it to you or KAV and he can put it under this topic if there is an interest.

The following users thanked this post: Reyth, MickyP

#### Reyth

• Global Moderator
• Hero Member
• Posts: 4393
• Thanked: 1615 times
##### Re: law of the third system
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2018, 02:08:59 AM »
Very kewl Badger!  I am very interested for one!

#### stringbeanpc

• New
• Posts: 12
• Thanked: 13 times
• Gender:
##### Re: law of the third system
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2018, 03:37:16 AM »
Roobert

Use this information as you best see fit

I took a file with 1 million single 0 wheel spins and organized them into cycles of 37 spins as follows
because a player could come to a table at anytime (ie not just when the spin # is 37, 74, 111, etc)

spin 1 to 37
spin 2 to 38
spin 3 to 39
spin 4 to 40
and so on

from this I broke down how many spins had AT LEAST ONE number repeat THREE times during the cycle

then I further broke down the data into how many other numbers repeated AT LEAST THREE times during the cycle

Here are the results

For example cycles where no    numbers repeated three times =  18,535 ( ie singles & doubles only )
For example cycles where one   number  repeated three times =  84,815
For example cycles where two   numbers repeated three times = 152,223
For example cycles where three numbers repeated three times = 142,090

For example cycles where no    numbers repeated three times, but one number repeated more than three times = 33,633
etc

From my results you can see that during a cycle, the best chance is to have 1, 2 or 3 numbers repeat three times
and often you will have other numbers repeat more than 3 times (23.534 % + 31.612 % + 23.539 %) = 78.685 %

See text attachment

The following users thanked this post: kav, Reyth

#### stringbeanpc

• New
• Posts: 12
• Thanked: 13 times
• Gender:
##### Re: law of the third system
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2018, 03:41:21 AM »
There are cycles of 37 where there are no 3peaters.

This is to confirm Badgers statement. In my example above 18,535 cycles (out of approximately 1 Million) had no numbers repeat at least three times. Therefore under 2%. A low risk but it still can happen

FYI, MrJ's hot number thread is here

https://forum.roulette30.com/index.php?topic=2061.0
« Last Edit: January 20, 2018, 03:45:47 AM by stringbeanpc »

The following users thanked this post: kav, Reyth, MickyP

#### kav

• www.Roulette30.com
• Hero Member
• Posts: 2236
• Thanked: 1177 times
• Gender:
##### Re: law of the third system
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2018, 10:51:33 AM »
Welcome to the forum!

The following users thanked this post: Reyth

#### Reyth

• Global Moderator
• Hero Member
• Posts: 4393
• Thanked: 1615 times
##### Re: law of the third system
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2018, 03:14:46 PM »
For a system, the question is how many times can that "under 2%" be expected to repeat back to back?

The actual percentage is:

0.018535

I am showing that the maximum back to back failures in a row that we can expect here is 3.

Therefore we need a system that can handle 3 misses in a row and then provide 1 hit.

I haven't done the distribution on how common this 3:1 event is, but I know its very rare and likely to be greater than 1 in 16M.  Certainly 2:1 will be much more common and 1 will be seen by us as a "regular event".
« Last Edit: January 21, 2018, 03:19:11 PM by Reyth »

#### kav

• www.Roulette30.com
• Hero Member
• Posts: 2236
• Thanked: 1177 times
• Gender:
##### Re: law of the third system
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2018, 06:17:59 PM »
This is posted on behalf of Reyth.

The spin analysis is here: 66K analyzed spins

Quote
So, across the top of the excel file you'll see the following (I've explained what each means here)

Set of 37 Spins Number - The program analyzes sets of 37 consecutive spins as if they were one block.  So, if you see the number 2 in that column, it means the data to follow in that row is all of the data for what happened in the second set of 37 spins analyzed.  Now, it analyzes data in consecutive sets of 37 spins.  So that means that if you analyzed 38 spins, you would get TWO sets of 37 spins analyzed.  This is because obviously you have 1 through 37 to analyze (thats the first set) but then you also have 2 through 38 (the second set of 37 consecutive spins)

Number of Different Numbers that Appeared - This is pretty simple.  It just means how many numbers showed themselves in a given set of 37 spins.  It does not show you WHAT numbers came out, just how many differnt numbers.  A number is only counted once regardless of how many times it came out.  This is a good column to look at to see the "Law of the Third" in action.

X2 - Any number beneath the heading "X2" is the number spin on which a number appeared two times.  You'll see a lot of these as numbers appear twice quite often in a set of 37 spins.  Keep in mind that again, the number underneath that heading IS NOT the number that came out out twice.  It is on WHAT NUMBER SPIN a number appeared twice.  So, again, if you see 23 underneath an X2 that means that on SPIN 23 a number doubled.

X3 - Same as X2, but for on what number spin a number appeared 3 times.  Now, keep in mind that when a number appears for the third time on what number spin it appeared is recorded in the X3 column, but the spin that it doubled on (X2) is not removed.  As for a number to appear 3 times, it obviously had to have appeared twice.

X4 - Sames as X2 and X3 but for on what number spin a number appeared 4 times.

This data has a lot of VERY valuable information inside it.  Whether that information is of value because it will PREVENT you from trying to design a system, or give you new insight on how to design A NEW system there is a lot that goes both ways in this data.

For instance, you'll be surprised how often in a set of 37 spins a number DOES NOT ever appear 3 times.

Enjoy!
« Last Edit: February 20, 2018, 07:36:09 PM by kav »

The following users thanked this post: Reyth, vitorwally

#### Janusz

• Mature Member
• Posts: 167
• Thanked: 106 times
##### Re: law of the third system
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2018, 04:13:58 PM »
There is something wrong with this 66k spins

e.g. line 17126 shows 17 number have appeared but in x2 and x3 there are 20 numbers shown!
« Last Edit: February 20, 2018, 07:36:27 PM by kav »

#### Real

• Fighting the war on absurdity one foolish idea at a time.
• Hero Member
• Posts: 1693
• Thanked: 284 times
• Gender:
##### Re: law of the third system
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2018, 05:42:21 PM »
I still don't know why you guys are stuck on the law of the third.  It's like being stuck on the law of even chance or the law of one in 37.

Like I said, the law of the third was nothing more than a cover story for a couple of vb friends from years back. (1980s)  My friend that said it would cough up a kidney laughing if he knew how many people were still chasing it.
« Last Edit: January 23, 2018, 05:44:15 PM by Real »

#### MickyP

• Hero Member
• Posts: 1316
• Thanked: 562 times
• Gender:
##### Re: law of the third system
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2018, 06:00:33 PM »
A brilliant cover story Real. Maybe they didn't realise the value of their cover story. Honest mistakes happen. Lol.

#### Real

• Fighting the war on absurdity one foolish idea at a time.
• Hero Member
• Posts: 1693
• Thanked: 284 times
• Gender:
##### Re: law of the third system
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2018, 06:13:23 PM »
Here's the story.

The law of the third, has actually been around for quite a long time. It only became popular after 1982 because of two gamblers that were involved in an incident in North Hampton. Specifically the Rubicon Club Casino. The two men were playing visual ballistics and were busted using while using a hidden communication device. (The device enabled the vb observer to discretely say the predicted number into the player's ear so that he could then bet a 12 number section of the wheel.) (It was not a computer.) They had been winning quite a bit of money, all over Europe with their method.

When interrogated by the police, the Polish member of the group, Paul Phillips, claimed to be a mathematical genius that had invented a method based on the "Phillip's Law of The Third." Of course, both the name of the man and the system were just a cover story for the visual ballistics. After being arrested and spending the night in jail, the police chose to let them out of jail and offered them a chance to prove that they weren't cheating by demonstrating their 12 number betting method. So they did, over five whole spins. LOL! When they hit three or four times, the casino and police were flabbergasted at their hit rate. (Keep in mind the police and gaming were basically as stupid and naive as they are now.) Consequently, reports of the law of the third's success spread like wild fire! Everyone wanted in on the system. Even to this day people naively believe that the law of the third can win. All because of a cover story.

You can read various versions of the story in some books and old articles.
« Last Edit: January 23, 2018, 06:17:04 PM by Real »

The following users thanked this post: vitorwally