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#### scepticus

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##### Re: Wrap your mind around this...
« Reply #30 on: January 16, 2018, 03:01:27 AM »
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Winning numbers are random so there will be times when opposites occur often . This happens with other seemingly strange numbers . The Neighbours. Streets. Dozens. Columns . Even the same number repeating two or three times and even them sometimes being followed by another number repeating.
Don't waste time on these " phenomena "- they are is " normal " . A good talking point , perhaps,but  nothing more than that.

#### MickyP

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##### Re: Wrap your mind around this...
« Reply #31 on: February 04, 2018, 10:07:13 PM »
The roulette wheel has 37 numbers and each pocket is 9.7 degrees wide. On a perfect wheel the ball could land in any pocket and the chance of the ball landing on your number you have bet on is 2.7%.

This is visual ballistics for dummies, in a sense that the wheel is what should be played and not the convenient felt.

Where the ball lands in the wheel has tell tale signs that differ from croupier to croupier hence the constant changing of croupiers in the casino. Keeping record of where on the wheel the ball lands will create patterns and hot spots will come to light. The idea of studying wheel behavior or trends is to use this to your advantage.

At 9.7 degrees it is not likely  you will select the exact pocket (number) the ball will land in but what if you widen the pocket?
3 numbers gives you 29.1 degrees relating to 12 pockets on the wheel.
4 numbers is 38.8 degrees and 9 pockets
5 numbers is 48.5 degrees and 7 pockets
6 numbers is 58.2 degrees and 6 pockets
7 numbers is 67.9 degrees and 5 pockets
9 numbers is 87.3 degrees and 4 pockets
I think you get the idea.

So if you play roulette on a wheel that has let's say only 6 pockets and you bet on one or two of the pockets (6 or 12 number) your chances of a hit are greatly improved. This is where a progression will end up in your favour.

Start thinking along these lines and practise betting in your mind every time you have a wheel in front of you. The more you practise the more you will observe and the better you will become. Learn to read the croupiers relationship with the wheel. It is predictable to a point.
I'm sure with this exercise you will have a new found appreciation for visual ballistics. MrPerfect will be able to guide you into refining your new found approach.

I do these exercises very often and I have noticed an improvement in my bet selection. I'm yet to try with hard cash though.

I have quoted the first post if this thread because it will benefit you in being able to easily refer to it with what I have to say...

The AP guys have a lot to say but somehow lack the capacity to do so. They shoot system players down for a reason; the reason is that they believe they have found a better way to win. System play demands a player to follow a set of rules but believe it or not, AP are also subject to rules. Now, AP rules are a little different because they are custom made for the individual player depending on their ability to hone the required skills and how consistently they are able to execute the rules to win.
AP insist that all play must be from the wheel and I see the merit in it.
Playing off the wheel is wise for all player types. I'm sure that in many system/strategy  methods the designer has studied the wheel to establish the optimum bet selection that will be favorable in most conditions of play. I say most conditions due to variance. Players who follow machanical systems to the book will face losses to the point that recovery will not be possible. This type of play is what AP recite in their ridicule of "system players". Variance in the game can be a friend or a foe depending on how you react to it. The use of triggers to select an entry point into the game is not wrong. Triggers come in different forms and it could be a simple evaluation of the atmosphere/situation at the table. The croupier spinning style and the last few spins could identify your entry point. Any information you deem valuable to your game play can be used as you see fit.

The quoted post above deals with increasing the target area of a single number so that more consecutive numbers are included in a target. Example: the target number is 0 and we triple the size, so 0 would be 26, 0 and 32 as a single target. Now if we take our larger target and play it with two neighbours (one on both sides) then the three targets will amount to nine numbers. This will require 9 chips but some numbers can be paired on the felt and played as a split simply to lower initial chip outlay. I know the value of wins on splits will also be reduced. Cluster combinations can be played on the felt covering your wheel bet selection.

Three important questions that need to be answered:
1. How do I identify a wheel target?
2.how big or small do I want the target area to be?
3. What betting protocol am I going to use?

AP are welcome to guide us by sharing the elementary "entry point"  basics to reading the wheel and maybe give some constructive input for us who want to improve our game.

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#### MrPerfect.

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##### Re: Wrap your mind around this...
« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2018, 12:57:51 AM »
I found answers to these qwestions using search function of the forum. It works. Confirmed.

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#### Real

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##### Re: Wrap your mind around this...
« Reply #33 on: February 05, 2018, 01:17:50 AM »
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The AP guys have a lot to say but somehow lack the capacity to do so. They shoot system players down for a reason; the reason is that they believe they have found a better way to w

No we shoot most of them down because we've already proven that they don't work for reasons x,y, and z...about six forums ago.  The same stupid ideas just keep getting reinvented under new names because many of the system junkies don't study the history of the wheel and game before designing a retarded system.

The same thing can be said about triggers.  Not one of you, including you Micky, can explain why they should work.
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#### MickyP

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##### Re: Wrap your mind around this...
« Reply #34 on: February 05, 2018, 01:22:33 AM »
You walked right into it Real. Thank you so much for proving my point. LOL!

#### MickyP

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##### Re: Wrap your mind around this...
« Reply #35 on: February 05, 2018, 01:54:34 AM »
"AP bets how he wants, what he wants and the way he wants.  "

Your words MrPerfect; taken from a conversation I had with you on how AP win and what type of bets are placed.
(In the visual ballistics section of the forum)
Go figure!
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