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#### BlueAngel

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##### Capitalizing on streaks
« on: December 28, 2014, 11:31:52 AM »
Hello everyone!
I have created a progression for all even chance (approximately) bets.
Not only does ride the waves of victory after victory but ALSO,that's VERY important,protects your profits by not placing everything back at risk.
So,let's see how it goes:

1) bet 2 units: if win +2 if lose -2

That's the ONLY real risk,the first level of betting,most of the time you will your first bet with a bit of luck and then you could capitalize your winnings RISK-FREE!

2) bet 1 units: if win +3 (total)/ lose +1

3) bet 2 units: if win +5 / lose +1

4) bet 3 units: if win +8 / lose +2

5) bet 4 units: if win +12 / lose +4

6) bet 5 units: if win +17 / lose +7

I wouldn't recommend you to proceed further than 6 consecutive wins,even a streak of 6 is hard to get,but since this progression is conservative,you won't risk at any point your winnings.
I have use it to play for hours without losing my bankroll,while waiting for the streak of 6 consecutive wins.
If you give it a try,you should notice that losses are small and wins becoming big by the time if you have the patience and disclipine.

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#### Rourke

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##### Re: Capitalizing on streaks
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2016, 03:35:08 PM »
Hi Blue

This is actually an interesting post - I'm sorry you haven't had any feedback :-(

I like your idea in regards to your progression when betting on a streak - It can be very profitable and streaks happens more often than you think.

I'm also going for streaks, both on EC and DC's. DC's are a bit harder, but still possible.

If I might add. When playing on streaks always bet on 0/00 as well. Just for insurance.

I will try out your progression and let you know how it goes.

Thanks :-)

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##### Re: Capitalizing on streaks
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2016, 03:43:05 PM »
I've made a small modification to your progression which I will try later tonight.

It goes like:

1) Bet 1 unit: Win: +1, Loose: -1

2) Bet 1 unit: Win: +2, Loose: break even

3) Bet 1 unit: Win: +3, Loose: +1

4) Bet 2 unit: Win: +5, Loose: +1

5) Bet 3 unit: Win: +8, Loose: +2

6) Bet 4 unit: Win: +12, Loose: +4

Again, thanks for your post :-)

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##### Re: Capitalizing on streaks
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2016, 03:45:47 PM »
And in regards to streaks... I've seen Red been hit continuously for 16 spins in a row and Column 1 not being hit for 19 spins on a live wheel. So there is certainly an opportunity here :-)

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##### Re: Capitalizing on streaks
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2016, 05:09:58 PM »
I apoliges for saying this because i don't want to hurt you feelings, but the first one who mention
Regression Up & Pull is John Patrick.

Regression is super, you only need to win once and you can never lose it all back.
And if you strike you use Up & Pull.

W 2
W 1
W 2
W 2
W 3
W 4
W 5
W 6
W
W

The tricky part is to jump on board a trend within Three attempts.
There is a baccarat system that apply this methodology with Regression Up & Pull and a fibo to recover when loses chop.
I save the system for the methodlogy is great and the principal is based upon.
The only thing that needs a change is the bet selection or march where i would suggest Birsthday Paradox with intuitive march or mechanical march, which i will look into later to create a great winning method.

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#### Sheridan44

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##### Re: Capitalizing on streaks
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2016, 09:55:08 PM »
How about also - the mirror image of this....betting against a prolonged streak?  i.e.... RRRRR , RBRBR, or RRBBRR.
A choppy sequence like RBRBR could be battled by betting against the second preceding result (what won result before the last), which would work for repeats and chops, but would be vulnerable to alternating doubles (RRBBRRBB), although doubles tend occur with less frequency than repeats or single chops.
« Last Edit: April 21, 2016, 10:02:30 PM by Sheridan44 »

#### dobbelsteen

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##### Re: Capitalizing on streaks
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2016, 09:55:34 AM »
I have wrote an Excel program for this idea. I did it for High and Low.
The initinal bet i2 units and afterthen the bets increase with one unit.
After spin 100 I have nuikt in a stop after a win.
I wrote ist many times, a system can end with profit or loss,

#### Sputnik

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##### Re: Capitalizing on streaks
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2016, 11:31:41 AM »
You need one attack sequense to Catch a win Before you apply Regression Up & Pull ...
For example John Patrick and other say if you don't jump on board a trend within Three bets you quit.
Then the entering and exit poinst look like this with 122 staking.

31/8

+1
+1
+1
+1
+1
+1

30/8

+1
+1
+1
+1
+1

29/8

-5
+1
+1
+1
-1
+1
+1
+1
+1
+1
+1

28/8

-5
+1
+1
-1
-1
+1
+1
+1

27/8

+1
+1
-5
+1
+1
+1
-1
+1

And if you after a win let it ride towards a strike you get different hit ratio.
It looks like this:

LLWWWWWL
WWL
LWWWWL
LWL
WL
LWWWL
LLWL
LWWWWL
LLWL
LWWWL
LWL
WL
LWL
WL
WL
WWWL
WL
WWWWWL
LWL
WL
LWWWL
WL
WWWWWWL
LWWWL
LLWL
WWWWWWL
LLWL
LWL
LWWL
WWL
WWWWWL
LLWWWL
WL
LLL
WWL
WL
LWWL
WL
WWWL
WWWWWWWL

Here is two grahps playing Regression Up & Pull:

+1

26/8

+1
+1
+1
+1
+1
+1
+1

25/8

+1
+1
+1
+1
+1
+1
+1

24/8

+1
+1
+1
+1
+1
+1
+1
+1
+1
+1
+1

23/8

+1
+1
+1
+1
-5
+1
+1
+1

I am going to show you a solid way to play and is based upon the principal of 1/3.
Where you Group patterns into Three.
So bet against any of this formations or patterns to repeat four times in a row.

RRR
RRR
RRR
RRR

RRB
RRB
RRB
RRB

RBR
RBR
RBR
RBR

RBB
RBB
RBB
RBB

BBB
BBB
BBB
BBB

BRR
BRR
BRR
BRR

BBR
BBR
BBR
BBR

BRB
BRB
BRB
BRB

The bet selection and rules.

You see one outcome, red or black and bet against it up to three times in a row.
If you lose three times in a row, then you have a series of four.
Then you wait for the next new outcome to show and bet against that one for three times.
That is the march.

We only bet once for each sequential event.
This means you have to wait for a string of events to fail three times in a row, before you can make your first attack.
You only start one attack after three loses.
And you attack twice with Three attamps or stop playing and wait for a fictive win.

That means if you win once in the beginning using the 122 staking plan, then stop and wait for a new sequence or three loses.
But when you win within Three attemps you let it ride with Regression Up & Pull.
That is the bet selection or the march.

This is how it looks like.

1
2 W
2 L
1 W
1 L
1 L
1 L

1
1 L
2 W
1 W
2 W
1 W
2 W
1 W
1 L
1 L
2 W
2 L
1 W
1 L
1 L
2 W
1 W
2 W
2 L
2 L
1 W
2 W
1 W
1 L
1 L
1 L

2
1 W
1 L
2 W
2 L
1 W
2 W
1 W
2 W
1 W
2 W
2 L
2 L
1 W
1 L
2 W
2 L
1 W
2 W
2 L
2 L
2 L

« Last Edit: April 22, 2016, 12:25:46 PM by Sputnik »

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##### Re: Capitalizing on streaks
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2016, 08:44:15 PM »
This is not a bad approach Sputnik. However - I have started to use your strategy on Dozens and Columns instead.

But I wait for 5 spins. Example for Dozens:

1
3
2

1
3
- Then I bet against 2

If I loose, i continue betting against the above sequence 132.

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##### Re: Capitalizing on streaks
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2016, 04:04:00 AM »
Cool idea about the dozen :-)

But you missing one crusal part about the Even Money Bet.
The bet selection is pretty solid as its rare you lose twice or two attacks.
So when you lose one attack once and win once you end up -4 or -5.
For example here below is 9 Days with a peak at +42 units only using the 122 staking.
So the importance of jumping on a trend with Three bets and quit is valid.
All this without Regression Up & Pull.
This show the Power behind the clever bet selection if i might say so :-)

31/8

+1 +1
+1 +2
+1 +3
+1 +4
+1 +5
+1 +6

30/8

+1 +7
+1 +8
+1 +9
+1 +10
+1 +11

29/8

-5 +6
+1 +7
+1 +8
+1 +9
-1 +8
+1 +9
+1 +10
+1 +11
+1 +12
+1 +13
+1 +14

28/8

-5 +9
+1 +10
+1 +11
-1 +10
-1 +9
+1 +10
+1 +11
+1 +12

27/8

+1 +13
+1 +14
-5  +9
+1 +10
+1 +11
+1 +12
-1 +11
+1 +12
+1 +13

26/8

+1 +14
+1 +15
+1 +16
+1 +17
+1 +18
+1 +19
+1 +20

25/8

+1 +21
+1 +22
+1 +23
+1 +24
+1 +25
+1 +26
+1 +27

24/8

+1 +28
+1 +29
+1 +30
+1 +31
+1 +32
+1 +33
+1 +34
+1 +35
+1 +36
+1 +37
+1 +38

23/8

+1 +39
+1 +40
+1 +41
+1 +42
-5 +37
+1 +38
+1 +39
+1 +40

You can see that same bet selection is different and is not the same with same probability.
Look at the Equilibrium if you would attack after four zig zag and not four straight.
For example RBRB RBRB BRBR ...

RRB
BBR
RRB
BBR

Then you don't get Equilibrium with four repeats with same patterns based upon the principal of 1/3.
You get two patterns to repeat with four zig zag.
And is more rare that 1 in 8 repeats 4 times in a row then 2 in 8 repeats 4 times in a row.
My opinion.

« Last Edit: April 23, 2016, 04:15:28 AM by Sputnik »

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##### Re: Capitalizing on streaks
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2016, 07:26:07 AM »
Thanks for your reply Sputnik. I'm sorry though, I think I may have misunderstood you. Let me try to explain, how I understand your approach.

There wheel has spun the following sequence: RRB

Am I to understand that I will then bet against that sequence (RRB) for the next 9 spins?

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##### Re: Capitalizing on streaks
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2016, 09:15:04 AM »
Sputnik I can not translate your data and diagrams to a real sample.I think ,I am not the only one.

My excel sheets show step by step how a system works.It is not nessesery to be a programmer ro read the sheet.Your diagrams explain nothing and can not read by a  interested outsider

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##### Re: Capitalizing on streaks
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2016, 10:19:36 AM »
I don't agree, i can not understand your excel sheet with step by step introduktion with clear explination.
Maybe i am missing something but don't see what you contribute to outsiders.

I don't see how you use Regression Up & Pull with the methodology to jump on board a trend within Three attempts, which is nessasery to succĂ©s with Regression Up & Pull.
But you don't show that kind of solution that i mention with clear explination.
That is a poor way to search and test systems.
You need to explain complete solution from all angles as i did above.

My way you see step by step explination of bet selection and grahps that show pontential strike ratio with bet selection.
Is clear as water for outsiders to copy and test by them self to get similiar results.
And all my sample are real from random org 100% TRNG.

Cheers
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##### Re: Capitalizing on streaks
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2016, 10:42:39 AM »
All I've presented here was just a positive progression, I didn't suggest any bet selection which I did elsewhere.

However, I would not prefer pattern selection criteria because patterns have to do with the sequence of the events and there are literally millions of combinations.

So why to predict in which turn the outcomes are going to occur?
Isn't it pointless?
I think not regarding Sputnik's point of view.

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##### Re: Capitalizing on streaks
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2016, 10:46:08 AM »
It does not matter what you use to trigger your bet as the game is 50/50 and same apply for the strike ratio which is complete random.
But i rather have a Dice with eight sides to repeat one side four times in a row, then base the bet upon nothing.

However, I would not prefer pattern selection criteria because patterns have to do with the sequence of the events and there are literally millions of combinations.

This is not true in my example above, then you force the random flow to unfold with the principal of 1/3 and there only exist eight combination where one in eight can repeat four times in a row.
That has nothing to do with millions of combinations.
« Last Edit: April 23, 2016, 10:49:17 AM by Sputnik »