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#### mr j

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##### Re: Nine Hottest Secdtor
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2017, 06:38:02 AM »
So let me ask this (anyone).....lets say you tracked the last 800 spins. The four numbers with the most hits were the 32 33 35 36.

Which corner bet would you say is/was the hottest?

Ken

To answer my own question.....none of the corners are the hottest but the 32 33 35 36 are the four hottest numbers that coincidentally "FORM" a corner bet.

QUESTION >> (0 wheel), lets say a section is 32 15 19 4 21 2 25 17 34. The NINE hottest numbers in the last 500 spins are the 32 15 4 21 2 25 34 22 & 8. The TWO hottest from that group are the 22 & 8.

The TWO coldest on the entire wheel are the 19 & 17. So, you would SKIP betting the 22, 8 BUT in your group, you would include the 19, 17? Is that correct?

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« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2017, 07:03:45 AM »
As long as the ENTIRE sector is THE hottest, the 19 & 17 would be seen as my greatest allies and if they are the VERY coldest numbers, I would probably be raising VERY heavily.

Remember that we don't play in a theoretical bubble but in actual random sequences and the LotT has chosen this sector to hit the most, which factors into the distribution of the hits within the group AND throughout the wheel/board; i.e. the chances of the COLDEST numbers being in the hottest group of numbers is probably VERY small and thus it would be a very rare statistical event.

Think of it as a very "safe" way to play cold numbers.

However, because my method of play is quite unorthodox, unwieldy and unrealistic, my statistical findings probably do not apply to B&M players because of (primarily) bankroll sizing; i.e. I work with long progressions.

Translation: You can just ignore me.
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« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2017, 09:24:05 AM »
what i found is in 1cycle of 37spins there is one sector will be the hottest sector. Then in the 2nd cycle the hottest sector from 1st cycle will be showed up in the first 12spins of the 2nd cycle, dunno when but it always appear.
since i found this, i already track about hundred spins and i got 100% win rate of 24/24game.

Ratwood,

It's not as though your results are rare. If they were it might mean something. Let's look at the math. Chance of at least one hit in 12 spins betting 9 numbers is 1 - (1-9/37)^12 = 96.47%

A win in every one of your 24 sessions equates to a probability of 0.9647^24 = 42.21%, which is pretty high. Keep testing and report back if you have still won every time after another 24 sessions. The chance of this is 17.82%. I suspect you may have already had a loss, since you haven't replied to this thread for a while.

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« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2017, 09:56:07 AM »
In my former comment in dit not write ,that it is difficult to learn the number distribution on the wheel but to place your chips on the table. The neighbor numbers are spread all over the table.
Annouce the voisins du zeru , the croupier place the chips on the table. At a busy table the numbers on the table are hidden by the chips.
The 4 wheel quarters ar not hot from their self, they become hot.

From my point of view  a aria become hot by a anomaly of the occurrence

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« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2017, 02:11:27 PM »
"At a busy table the numbers on the table are hidden by the chips" >> I have always laughed at this. You only need to know where one number is and the rest should be easy. Plus you can still see which color it is.

If the 9 is covered up along with the 8 12 6 5 11......you or the dealer need to find the 9. you can see the 7 so finding the 9 should be easy (lol). I love it when the 9 hits and the dealer needs to PICK UP the chips off the 9, just to be sure. Now thats comedy.

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« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2017, 09:52:41 AM »
See attached for simulation results of this system. I used actual spins, NOT RNG, btw. 200 sesssions played at 37 spins per session resulted in 6 session losses, which is very close to the theoretical result predicted by the math (the win rate is 96.5%, so you would expect to suffer 3-4 losses per 100 sessions).

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« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2017, 11:57:13 AM »
MrJ we are not all experience daily  players. After 40 years I do not know the distribution on the wheel. The roulette is a reliable random generator . I am only interested in the last 20 numbers row and the stats of the last 50 numbers. This is enough for systems and strategies.

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« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2017, 06:49:25 AM »
Thank you Mike!  That was very hard work and very well done!!  I repect your post very highly!!!

@Dobble: Yes, I see that I have encountered the DTOP in trying to speak about this last 50 spins (like running into a mental brick wall) and so I know I must tread very carefully...

For my purposes, I deal with a bet selection that itself cannot be expected to miss more than 84 times, which could have an impact upon other selections of about 28 hits.  So my scope COULD be a bit larger but not much more...

Do you take notes while at the casino?
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« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2017, 09:32:08 AM »
Thank you Mike!  That was very hard work and very well done!!  I repect your post very highly!!!

Reyth,

I appreciate the response. I'm surprised the OP didn't at least acknowledge my simulation, but I guess nobody likes to be shown that their system doesn't work. It's a thankless task.

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« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2017, 09:35:54 AM »
Well I don't believe that your simulation means that their system doesn't work but that you showed them the limitations of their system in its current state.  Also, I don't believe he has had time to respond yet!
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« Reply #25 on: December 19, 2017, 09:50:35 AM »

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you showed them the limitations of their system in its current state.

Not sure what "in its current state" means. Sure, it could be tweaked or changed, but then it would be a DIFFERENT system.

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« Reply #26 on: December 19, 2017, 10:04:00 AM »
Can you write a perfect program the first time through with no errors or modifications required?  Its kind of like the same thing.  His system DID work, in exactly the way that it did.  System designers face the same guaranteed failure as programmers and they have to work through it.

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« Reply #27 on: December 19, 2017, 12:13:13 PM »
His system DID work, in exactly the way that it did.

EVERY system can work for a while, no matter how bad it is. What you're talking about is variance, and the OP understood that, which is why he was asking for others to test it. Longer term tests showed that the premise of his system was false. Tweaks and changes can of course be made, but the system as originally designed fails.

One tweak which might be worth trying is the one that palestis suggested in reply #7 : rather than using predefined sectors, let the wheel determine them.
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« Reply #28 on: December 19, 2017, 01:04:43 PM »
Ok well I guess it comes down to people not getting discouraged and be willing to tweak further.

He could stay on the one selection but not bet it every tme instead -- I believe that is safer because its when we try and defeat probability by trying to force rare results to become common, that we end up finding worse results than normal, as common.  I am willing to sacrifice spins to avoid seeing that.