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MrPerfect.

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Re: How do AP win and what type of bets are used?
« Reply #30 on: December 17, 2017, 10:48:48 AM »
 Liverouletteonlineplayer,  don't you see what lm doing by yourself?  I'm posting and looking for students. I started to play roulette in order to get my 1M hit. Up till now, it didn't happen. In order to make it possible l need a team of players.
    To have a proper team, need to create it yourself..  so that's what lm atempting to do few years already.
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Re: How do AP win and what type of bets are used?
« Reply #31 on: December 17, 2017, 04:03:10 PM »
I assume that you are looking for paying students or students who do services to you collect data .etc so you get some kind of benefits about your teaching them.
I think that winning roulette is 1 million more difficult now, but if you even win a year 50-100K then over the years it becomes a total of 1 million.
I think roulette was easier to win big more old days from 1930 to 2000 now a days wheels are so technical and supervising the computer softwares how they behave casino staff pittboss .etc   that winning big like million is more difficult for players Online Casinos or Land Based Casinos
 
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Re: How do AP win and what type of bets are used?
« Reply #32 on: December 18, 2017, 03:57:37 AM »
No need to assume anything, you could just ask.
   With detailed data we can win more and descover new things as well.... I happen to know what to do with such a data. Collecting such a data takes time, make sense of such a data takes time as well. To simplify the process l created both : tool for data collection ( my rc) and software to analyse data ( my roulette analyser).
    So l supply tool for data collection ( it has ability to help predict as well) and charging for services of data analysis. 
   To prevent my time to be lost for nothing, l look for people who are really wanna learn how to use my tool as intended  and collect proper data for mutual benefit.
   It's not really about "paying students"... but these who pay normally stay motivated for longer, are more likely to think about qwestions they make, have higher chance to sussed. 
    Like , really...  susses rate of books and courses out there everyone knows,  many get these for free on forums, download on Internet. .. ets.  There are rc out there as well that  can buy , but no one gonna explain how to use it proprely...  this is exactly what happens.   
     I give understanding,  tools , study data, help with creation of proper strategy and betting plan.... yet people think lm after " their time and money". I asking myself often ..  is it even worth it? For now, answer is yes.... l still belive in people, l already found few who are normal and adequate, unfortunately they are scattered around the world as you can see from my " genuine feedback" topick.  :(.
 

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Re: How do AP win and what type of bets are used?
« Reply #33 on: December 18, 2017, 05:01:43 AM »
If you seriously wanted "detailed data", why not go to Bad Homburg or Weisbaden actuelles, and download as much real game data/results as you need.
Those lists are very well organized and laid out, so applying them to your strategy for review, will be very easy for you.
And Good Luck with putting together a "team" as it is more difficult than herding cats!
 
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Re: How do AP win and what type of bets are used?
« Reply #34 on: December 18, 2017, 10:36:37 AM »
Fyodor, data in this case is vb data, ds data and bias data. Normally to make detailed study with ball and wheel timings l used spend around 2-3 month of hard work with video frame by frame...  It's same effort as go to job and work and make 200 hours ...
    My rc permits to cut nessesary time for few days. It can predict properly and inform user of timings that matter. Even like this , it's a shortcut in proper study, but l can live with that.
Casinos / websites wouldn't provide the type of data that matters, if they would, they will be out of business very qweak.
    I really loved your expression of " herding catts" , it describes precisely the efort needed. I even liked the post because of this.
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Re: How do AP win and what type of bets are used?
« Reply #35 on: December 18, 2017, 10:57:55 AM »
Yes, I tried it once or twice, (building a team, not herding cats) but roulette weaves a different type of spell on each individual.

So, I gave it away and played only solo or a deux ever since.
 

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Re: How do AP win and what type of bets are used?
« Reply #36 on: December 18, 2017, 11:19:12 AM »
Before it was easy to collect spins online casinos with live roulettes when you could put the screen recorder on and record the broadcast even 24h hours and then watch the video accelerated and input spins by hand but nowadays if you do not play online casino live roulette you are kicked out of the table off a certain time limit then screen recordins a few hours or even 24h not posible any more and all the rational live roulettes wheel that are running 24h every day are bias because the wheel usage is so tough even  the wheels are carefree wear can not be blocked in any way but whether the wheel is involved in tracking software wheel activity and spins outcomes and bias as advanced or whether a player can detect bias more before than a wheel manufacturer's tracking software notices it is then a different matter
 

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Re: How do AP win and what type of bets are used?
« Reply #37 on: December 18, 2017, 11:24:22 AM »
I have been blessed with existence of people like Animatoroff, for example.... few years ego we spent hours/days/weeks playing online together. Even if it not resulted in nothing spectacular, yet we both learn a lot... like how to survive on bet before spin playing ds for entire week.... as l remember ,800 gbp taken before we desisted,  but at least we confirmed that such play is possible and strong enough to pay bills.
    Ibot present on this forum teached me how to form and test hypotesis,  l developed my " wheel bias signature" on data his sindicate used to provide....
   Bebedictus helped a lot... he is by himself the only my mentor of everything that is related to " how to vb properly"....
   There are others, not many... that helped and participated ocasionally as well...
   No "fixed " team... but someday, if lm lucky enough,  l will get a proper one for myself.... it gonna be strongest team in hystory, this lm sure.
   
 
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Re: How do AP win and what type of bets are used?
« Reply #38 on: December 18, 2017, 11:29:44 AM »
Lifeonlineplayer... do not worry about them tracking their wheels, such a software is there to keep wheel manufacturers relaxed about maintenance and keep casinos sleeping deeply without nightmares...  many bias causes and affect literally have no chance to be recognised by such software.
 
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Re: How do AP win and what type of bets are used?
« Reply #39 on: December 19, 2017, 03:09:26 AM »
The thing with screen recording. .. it's a good idea, if video feed is worth it ( hd), then you can collect many variables and go for detaile study... l used to do it and up till now sometimes do use video to resolve qwestion's that require it.
   You can get more then one account, if one log out due to inactivity, can continue to record on other till first is back online.
 Any software operate numbers to detect bias, player may operate other wich is much more efficient.
 
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Re: How do AP win and what type of bets are used?
« Reply #40 on: December 19, 2017, 06:31:50 AM »
roulettephysics crap site find this information true or false?

Pocket Bias: The ball will favour singular pockets

Section Bias:The ball will favour specific wheel sectors

Dynamic Bias: This is a bias that exists only for a short term (usually a few hundred spins). Detecting such a bias manually is quite tricky, although the online custom variant software checks for you. Usually you can predict the evolution of a bias and adjust bets accordingly. “Modern” wheel analysis software completely neglects this type of bias, and this is to your advantage.

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Re: How do AP win and what type of bets are used?
« Reply #41 on: December 19, 2017, 06:37:08 AM »
Dynamic sounds like RNG Bias but all 3 could fit that description; I can't tell because I don't know the scope of the first two categories (how many spins).

The true test of physical bias, is to identify it on Monday and then come back say, on Wednesday, (roughly 2880 spins at 60 sph) and then again on Friday and it is still there.  RNG Bias will still be there but it will very most likely have shifted to another group/sector/hottest numbers not in a group or sector.

I know I am out of my league with the above post but I also know that I am correct in the way that I am correct. :P
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Re: How do AP win and what type of bets are used?
« Reply #42 on: December 19, 2017, 09:13:33 AM »
RNG Roulette has no bias whether rng roulette some wearable mechanical parts such as real wheel there is not it is just software program
 I just remember I was collecting Total Spins: 1019630
  spins at the time Roulette Pro Playtech RNG software few years ago some software which automaticly do spins real money mode without bets find out that my thread now dead zone roulette forum 
Here are some  stats do yous see bias?
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Re: How do AP win and what type of bets are used?
« Reply #43 on: December 19, 2017, 10:13:29 AM »
 Reyth@, you actually absolutely right in your description of dinamic bias. The very nature of such a bias is to move all over the place due to the change in factors that affects it. As changes on roulette happen all the time, this type of bias is very difficult to detect by conventional methods.
      Steve do not possess nessesary knowledge to make this kind of software to track and analyse dinamic bias (working properly), same as wheel manufacturers software are doing poor job in detection of it.
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    PRNG, especially these that use external prossesses , are very subject to bias.... it can be in nature of distances,  frequency, patterns, sequences of numbers, sequeces of distances...ets.
   
 

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Re: How do AP win and what type of bets are used?
« Reply #44 on: December 19, 2017, 10:20:24 AM »
I just remember I was collecting Total Spins: 1019630  spins at the time Roulette Pro Playtech RNG software few years ago.  Here are some  stats do yous see bias?

Yes. 

Remember that percentages carried out to only 1-2 decimal places are useless at so many spins. 

I am getting tired and am running out of time to stay awake, but I would begin the RNG Bias search with the numbers 0,14,35 & 36.  Those are enough to play the hottest S/U numbers but I like to play numbers in felted groups (or even wheel groups) and don't have time to identify the best group atm.

Furthermore, we lack the history of how these particular numbers fared over the last say 300-10000 spins; I suspect they showed quite a bit of solidity in their hit:spin ratios.

Thanks for sharing that! :D
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