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#### Real

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##### Re: Casinos are my bitches!
« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2017, 10:32:30 PM »

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I find similar results in RNG.  The very positive numbers such as:

31 24 18 16 20

are also quite typical of RNG.  This report looks no different to me than RNG; after all a wheel IS an RNG.

Really, you can't tell the difference between what I posted and an RNG sample?  Are you blind?  The number 31 is over 8.3 standard deviations.  The number 24 is well over 7 standard deviations.

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Its pretty clear where there is some strong bias in the area of 16-21 and secondarily, in possibly 19-27 & 28-36; further clarification required.

Exactly what kind of clarification?  We began playing the wheel at only 7k spins.

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Extended sessions of the LotT produce results like this consistently because the number choices are limited & true balance is never actually achieved but only approximated over a sufficient number of trials.

I don't know what a Lot T is, but I seriously doubt that it's like the sample that I provided.

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The LotT MUST produce hot numbers (practically speaking) and over time some of these MUST be more frequent than others, its just a fact of the random flow, no physical wheel required, no flies farting on the rotor, just the random flow.

You don't get fluctuations like what I've posted from a random wheel.  The probability of that wheel being random is 1 in 4.22 with 48 zeros immediately following the 2.
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However, don't misundertsand my point, physical imperfections exist and I believe that they can be exploited, its just that similar biases also exist in the random flow as well and a simple statistical output is insufficient to tell the difference.
Not a chance in hell.  I have experience with Monte Carlo simulations and simulations on actual biased wheels.  You will never see results like the ones above on a random sample.
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##### Re: Casinos are my bitches!
« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2017, 11:19:07 PM »
Really, you can't tell the difference between what I posted and an RNG sample?  Are you blind?  The number 31 is over 8.3 standard deviations.  The number 24 is well over 7 standard deviations.

This is standard fare in my tested samples.

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Exactly what kind of clarification?  We began playing the wheel at only 7k spins.

I was too lazy to analyze the second tier of numbers to see which range(s) were secondarily indicated.  Nice sample at 7K spins, I have done the same but it isn't necessary to wait that long.  The bias shows up long before that and persists as a phenomenon (shifts DO occur from time to time).

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You don't get fluctuations like what I've posted from a random wheel.  The probability of that wheel being random is 1 in 4.22 with 48 zeros immediately following the 2.

You are trying to tell me I don't?  Because I do.

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Not a chance in hell.  I have experience with Monte Carlo simulations and simulations on actual biased wheels.  You will never see results like the ones above on a random sample.

I respect your statistical prowess but clearly you have missed something somewhere and somehow.

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« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2017, 12:06:10 AM »
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You are trying to tell me I don't?  Because I do.

No you don't.  For starters, you don't even appear to know what chi square/standard deviations really are and what's relevant and what's not.

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« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2017, 12:08:05 AM »
And you know this how?

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##### Re: Casinos are my bitches!
« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2017, 12:09:32 AM »
Experience.

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« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2017, 12:10:59 AM »
Too vague.

What if I were to tell you that I can usually spot a significant bias in a statistical flow within 75-150 spins and not have to wait for 7000 spins?

By the time 7000 spins rolls around I have made many hundreds to thousands of base monetary units.
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« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2017, 12:13:40 AM »
Reyth,

What can I say.  I'm trying to be nice, but efficient.

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What if I were to tell you that I can usually spot a bias in a statistical flow with 75-150 spins and not have to wait for 7000 spins?

No you can't.  I could easily give you the number stream one spin at a time, but I really don't feeling putting forth the effort in order to prove that you don't know what you're talking about.

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By the time 7000 spins rolls around I have made many hundreds to thousands of base monetary units.

Only hundreds to a thousand?  On a wheel like this one, that's sad.   It should yield an average of one or more units per spin.
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« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2017, 02:00:41 AM »
I am very cautious because unlike you, I have no concern for physical bias.  I can look to the session where I went over 7000 spins and calculate how many units were won; I was very careful to phrase the amount of winnings to include the widest range of possible earnings.

I think you dismiss alot of earning potential before you get to 7000 spins.  I mean if you watch a group of numbers go hot for 700 spins and do nothing, isn't that a waste?
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« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2017, 02:21:18 AM »
Reyth,

You're aiming for small wins.  We were aiming for something entirely different.

Here's the thing, even a biased number can go without hitting for an extended period of a couple hundred spins.  If you were tracking for only a few hundred spins, you could completely miss one of the best numbers.
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« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2017, 02:43:44 AM »
Kav hurry up with your post

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##### Re: Casinos are my bitches!
« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2017, 02:47:38 AM »
I have not much to add to the reasonable doubt I expressed in my initial post.

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« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2017, 02:50:32 AM »
Kav,

Some of the Wiki sources are actually quite good.  You should take the time to research some of them.

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##### Re: Casinos are my bitches!
« Reply #27 on: September 20, 2017, 03:01:03 AM »
Why do we need these sources (roulettedoc and gamblinggates etc.) when we have you in the forum?
So far though I'm not convinced.

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« Reply #28 on: September 20, 2017, 03:04:24 AM »

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Why do we need these sources (roulettedoc and gamblinggates etc.) when we have you in the forum?

Good point!

You should know though, I'm not the international sales rep for AP methods.  I have nothing to sell, and I must admit, I do hold some information close and help ensure that some things never ever see the light of day.  I do teach some people some stuff though.

If you were wise, and you really wanted to know more about how to win, then you'd take my advice and look into the sources.

What's comical about these roulette forums is that everyone is looking for "just the right progression or system" rather than how to actually get the edge.  Some even think that all they need is gambling discipline in order to win, and blame themselves when they don't.  That's some sick stuff right there.   Many trust some system junkie on the forum, over a mathematician.   It's pathetic at times. There's solid information out there but most are too lazy, or delusional to escape the confines of a roulette forum to find it.
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« Reply #29 on: September 20, 2017, 03:13:09 AM »
Here's the thing, even a biased number can go without hitting for an extended period of a couple hundred spins.

Of course.  That's why I never bet a biased number!  Just like you, I tend to notice biased "regions".

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If you were tracking for only a few hundred spins, you could completely miss one of the best numbers.

I don't care about one of the best numbers, I always miss several of them.

I have tracked for as many as 7000+ spins and of course the bias is just as clear then as it was at 700 spins, although shifts have occurred in at least certain ways.

Why do we need these sources (roulettedoc and gamblinggates etc.) when we have you in the forum?

I'll just come out and say it, I think system players can learn alot from the AP methods but their argumentation actually prevents us from doing so!  With only a slight adjustment in our perspective, I think huge doors of opportunity can open up for us!

I mean after all, what system player wouldn't give his eye teeth to learn how to reliably identify hot numbers over an extended period of time?

we can do what they do too!
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