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#### dobbelsteen

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« Reply #45 on: January 09, 2015, 11:11:08 PM »
Systems.
A system is a method with fixed conditions. The conditions are the triggers and the betting scheme.

I classify the systems in three groups.
1. the systems with only a betting scheme such as Labouchere, Martingale, Fibonacci etc.
2. systems with a trigger.
3. systems with triggers and a betting scheme.

A second classification is:
1. beautiful ones.
2. complicated ones
3. simple ones
There are no ugly or bad systems.

All systems have the same features, but they are different for long run and small samples. The number of spins for a small sample depends on the kind of the chance.
The most important feature is, a system cannot beat the house edge.
The result shall always oscillate between a positive and a negative percentage of the total input. The more the sample is larger the more the difference between a positive and negative result is smaller. The result of a long run sample is negative.
A player plays always a small sample. This is the reason you cannot predict the final result. The experience player stops  a session with a profit. The number of spins for a positive result is unpredictable.

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« Reply #46 on: January 10, 2015, 03:57:02 PM »
Systems.
A system is a method with fixed conditions. The conditions are the triggers and the betting scheme.

I classify the systems in three groups.
1. the systems with only a betting scheme such as Labouchere, Martingale, Fibonacci etc.
2. systems with a trigger.
3. systems with triggers and a betting scheme.

A second classification is:
1. beautiful ones.
2. complicated ones
3. simple ones
There are no ugly or bad systems.
Oh,yes there are MANY UGLY systems out there unfortunately!
How do you think the majority losing?? Hah??
Ugly is a system which is very simplistic,it's becoming dull and very boring eventually!
Ugly is a system which is very complicated,so complicated you cannot follow it any given time.
Ugly is a system which is very impractical,for example to risk too much money for a much smaller return,or to sit and wait without betting for hours!!!If you want to gain just a little by risking too much money and time,you DON'T have to go at a casino,there are plenty of other options to do this!!

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« Reply #47 on: January 11, 2015, 01:16:20 PM »
BlueAngel you have another definition of ugly.
You can also make a classification  of good , best and better or bad, badder and badst.
The simplist systems are good the very complicated system are bad.

Your system of flat betting is one of the baddest. Do you agree with my refutatio of the betting scheme and your conclusion?

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« Reply #48 on: January 11, 2015, 01:18:41 PM »
We have short run and long run samples.
The deviation of the statistic expectation is in a short run sample very large. We speak about a long run sample as  the  expectation has a very small deviation with the statistic expectation.

The trigger of a system is an event of the random sequence. The trigger has also the feature of a statistic expectation. This is the reason why the deviation between the profit and the loss osculates.

A short run sample can ended with a profit or a loss. This is up to the roulette player. A long run sample shall always end in a loss of about 2.7% of the total input. These results are predictable.

A player shall always play a short run sample. Do you try to become a successful player, you have to study the features of the short run sample.

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« Reply #49 on: January 11, 2015, 05:30:32 PM »
BlueAngel you have another definition of ugly.
You can also make a classification  of good , best and better or bad, badder and badst.
The simplist systems are good the very complicated system are bad.

Your system of flat betting is one of the baddest. Do you agree with my refutatio of the betting scheme and your conclusion?

Of course is not my best,but I've seen worst on this forum...
Anyway,it's not as bad as you may think.
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« Reply #50 on: January 12, 2015, 03:22:58 PM »
I am not a writer and my English is poor. English is not my first language. When I am not clear, contact me. I am a researcher, analiticus and a teacher.

The most players wager on the chances of the table layout. Most systems are based on the opportunities of these chances.
An alternative method of wagering is to bet on special events of the chances. Special is relative. The repeaters of the chances can be used as special events.
As earlier mentioned, these events have a random sequence and statistic expectations.

For example take the system High Aces from Ignatus. The trigger is a repeat of a dozen. What is the statistic expectation of a repeat of a dozen? Blaise Pascal learns us that the expectation is 3^2=9.
5-7 Is a repeater but the sequence 5-7-12 gives two repeaters namely 5-7 and 7-12. My program counts these repeaters.
The statistic expectation is the number of spins divided by 9. As long as this result has a relative large anomaly with the statistic expectation, the sample is a short run sample. I think ,the long run sample starts after more than 10000 spins.

This is the explanation why you cannot draw conclusions from the results of the diagrams of Ignatus and mine.

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« Reply #51 on: January 12, 2015, 03:52:38 PM »
I am not a writer and my English is poor. English is not my first language. When I am not clear, contact me. I am a researcher, analiticus and a teacher.

The most players wager on the chances of the table layout. Most systems are based on the opportunities of these chances.
An alternative method of wagering is to bet on special events of the chances. Special is relative. The repeaters of the chances can be used as special events.
As earlier mentioned, these events have a random sequence and statistic expectations.

For example take the system High Aces from Ignatus. The trigger is a repeat of a dozen. What is the statistic expectation of a repeat of a dozen? Blaise Pascal learns us that the expectation is 3^2=9.
5-7 Is a repeater but the sequence 5-7-12 gives two repeaters namely 5-7 and 7-12. My program counts these repeaters.
The statistic expectation is the number of spins divided by 9. As long as this result has a relative large anomaly with the statistic expectation, the sample is a short run sample. I think ,the long run sample starts after more than 10000 spins.

This is the explanation why you cannot draw conclusions from the results of the diagrams of Ignatus and mine.

In my opinion a better approach would be to set up triggers and indicators based on the wheel layout instead of the table because that's where the results are coming from.
But the table layout offers a cheaper way to bet a group of numbers,for example instead of betting 12 times 5 Euros,you could bet 5 on a dozen.
But like I said before,if you check the numbers of a dozen or any other group inside the wheel layout,you will find that those numbers are scattered all over the place!
Thus a system like waiting for a dozen to hit or not to and then betting on the dozen's numbers it does NOT make any sense to me!
Don't get me wrong,I'm not referring specifically on Ignatus's system,but to all of this kind of systems.

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« Reply #52 on: January 13, 2015, 11:15:15 AM »
The wheel layout has no influence on the random sequence. Some of the chances of the table layout  can be played with the same strategies and systems.

For the numbers and the ECs there is no difference.
For example the following suggestion.

Every 12 numbers together is a dozen or a column.
dozen 1 is 32-15-19-4-21-2-25-17-34-6-27-13
dozen 2 is 36-11-30-8-23-10-5-24-16-33-1-20
dozen 3 is 14-31-9-22-18-29-7-28-12-35-3-26
zero stays the zero
DS 32-15-19-4-21-2/25-17-34-6-27-13/- etc.
Streets  32-15-19/4-21-2/etc.
square  32-15-19-4/21-2-25-17/ etc.
split       32-15/19-14/21-2/ etc.

The numbers of squares and splits are not the same as on the table.

These distribution of the chances round the circumference of the wheel has exactly random sequences with the same features. Systems of these distribution of the chances are very hard to program.

The table layout makes it possible to bet on all the chances with a single unit. This is the most important advantage of the table layout. It is much more difficult to design systems for sector playing.

I belief , the roulette devices in the legal casinos are true and create fair random sequences.

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« Reply #53 on: January 17, 2015, 12:38:53 PM »
The table layout has 157 different chances. Every chance has a random occurrence and random sequence. The wheel layout has also countless wager possibilities. For all these chances you can design innumerable systems. The most chances are not suitable for useful systems.

The enlargement of the short run sample makes the difference. The short run sample of the ECs is the smallest and about 150 spins. This is the reason that  for the ECs the most and the beautifully system are developed through decenniums. Since Blaise Pascal has made his beautiful distribution of the numbers of the roulette, people try to find the Holy Grail.

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« Reply #54 on: January 18, 2015, 09:19:36 PM »
My demo.
View My Video
Some years ago I  have made a video of a roulette demonstration. At that time I wrote on a Dutch roulette site and I had my own website. In the Netherlands are many casino visitors but for my theory of the roulette was  very little interest.

I played much time on internet. My favorite internet casino was Roxy Palace.  The voiceover is my Dutch partner. In the beginning she explains the layout of the screen. On the screen you can see the different buttons to operate the roulette.

The history board shows the last numbers. On a display the balance is recorded. Note the start and finish balance to compute the profit. There is also a display for the bets and the payout.
With the spin button the roulette RNG is started, but this is only possible after a bet. If there is no trigger to bet I put one unit on Red and Black with the risk I lose one unit.

On the ECs I bet very carefully the Martingale system.
After 4 repeaters on the dozens or columns I bet the other dozens or columns.
My favorite bet is on the double streets or a combination of 2 streets.
If you bet on 5 double streets, then it is possible to put three units on High or Low. In that case you do not lose the whole bet with the zero.
Examples:
trigger  1- 7-11-6       Bet dozen 2 and 2
trigger   3-30-15 24  Bet column 1 and 2
trigger   15- 16           bet 2 units on dozen 1 and 3 units on High
trigger   5-6 -23-5      bet ST 1/3  -DS 7/12 –DS 13/18 –ST 19/21 and  Dozen 3
trigger   33-36   bet 6 units Low 1 unit Sp19/23 and 25/29  DS 19/24 and     25/30

Sometimes I bet on more than one chance.

My manner of playing is much better to explain with a live demonstration.
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« Reply #55 on: January 26, 2015, 02:21:56 PM »

In the topic “ Is it a Holy Grail “ I reported that a consequent wager on an EC has the same features as my SSB system. The difference is ,the wager is on an event that happens once in 512 spins. The risk is very low. I programmed this method in excel and here is the proof.

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« Reply #56 on: January 26, 2015, 02:27:50 PM »
The program is free to order. The profit of a 150 spin sample is Always about 70 units. Once more it is not a Holy Grail !!!

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« Reply #57 on: January 26, 2015, 04:58:27 PM »
Dobbelsteen,

If you want to discuss roulette you are welcome and I appreciate very much your contribution. However I'd this forum to not be a place to fish for potential buyers or make contacts. Thanks for your understanding.

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« Reply #58 on: January 26, 2015, 11:00:21 PM »
Kav, I think he said 'free'. Using the word 'order' may be confusing.

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« Reply #59 on: January 26, 2015, 11:15:26 PM »
Kav,
I thing we do not understand each other. This site is the best I found on internet. The monographs are very interested and teachable.
The forum is not only for high educated members. I try in very simple English to explain my theory about the roulette game and roulette strategy. The basic is the statistic theory of Blaise Pascal. Without the knowledge of random rows it is impossible to become a successful player. My computer simulations are tools to understand the features of the rows. The diagrams tell much more than thousand words.
Not everyone is a programmer. Though the excel software is very simple, the programming takes a lot of time. My programs are not secret and free suitable for all members. I like to share my knowledge and experience .
I do not sell  my knowledge. On internet you can buy books, software and devices for much money. The system testers used by Ignatus and BlueAngel are to buy on internet. From my point of view it is waist money