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Re: "Finals"
« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2017, 01:44:56 AM »
This is one instance where the American wheel might have a slight edge on the Euro wheel. You get an extra zero (00) when you play the zeroes in finals. On the surface, finals may seem like a blind dart throw.....but as Palestis has's more of how these numbers "behave" within their particular groupings. I never looked at their positions on the wheels...that could be an interesting study.


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Re: "Finals"
« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2017, 04:34:01 PM »
There is no real hot spot on the 00 wheel, just a couple areas that do not gap as far as others.
But what I find interesting, is that, pales layed out an intelligent and lucid method that wins and it is a very simple way to play, and no one has really taken to it like other methods. I mean the entire bet just revolves around simple observation and basic progressions ( if needed ) and has a nice "POP" on the payout. It can also be overlapped condition to condition.
It's a great play for the low limit player that wants to get there reps in. I am not a fan of inside play, but if I was this would be on my radar, for its simplicity, if for no other reason.   juice


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Re: "Finals"
« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2017, 06:02:45 PM »


If you give me strict rules, I can try to code
In order to see if this is good after a lot of numbers.


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Re: "Finals"
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2018, 07:03:41 PM »
I really enjoyed reading about "finals" and the ideas Palestis shared on the topic.
True, it's a very simple play method and is not heavy on the pocket. This is the type of game that can easily be controlled in a B/M casino, even on a busy table.
Palestis,  I take it your ideas are based on a single zero table.
I have not played or tested any type of finals approach and I am drawn to this in a big way. Judging by your confidence in playing finals it must be a sound method. Flat betting with the option of using a progression sounds too good to be true. Why has there not been more interest in this topic?
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Re: "Finals"
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2018, 07:19:37 PM »
"Also a repeat of a number that has the same final occurs every 9-12 spins on average, and extremely rarely exceeds 30 spins without a final repeating itself. "
[/size]I've taken the above quote from Palestis finals system. This fact alone is reason to look into playing finals.


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Re: "Finals"
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2018, 05:49:39 AM »
Good that you awakened the finals system.
Coincidently I was at a casino tonight and played this version of finals.
I wrote down all the finals from 0-9 and dotted underneath, the finals of every number that was spinning.
After about 38 spins, the finals of 4,7 and 9 were behind, compared to the rest of the finals.
And below the horizontal line is what came afterwards. Those 3 finals appeared more often than most of the other finals. And it was only 10 numbers to play 4-14-24-34-7-17-27-9-19-29. Flat betting is fine.
When 3-4 finals lag behind  in about 35-50 spins, 3 of them will definitely appear more often than their statistical share.
- A fact about finals is that 4 finals cannot go missing for more than 24 spins (that's the rare max).
- 3 finals cannot go missing for more than 36 spins except 7-8-9 (9 numbers), that can go up to 40 spins missing (again that's the rarest limit).
- Another fact is that when 4 finals can be combined in  quads, it is more likely that when one appears it will be in a quad rather than a split.
   Example 5-8-6-9
It forms 2 quads ( 5869-- and 25-26-28-29) and 15/18, 16/19 and 35/36 splits.
You have to expect to hit the 2 quads more often than the 3 splits.
You may play only the quads  to save chips. In the long run you will be ahead.
I personally love the 7-8-9 finals because they are only 9 numbers and most of them  can be combined.  Like street 7-8-9, 17/18  split and 28/29  split. 
Also the 0-7-8-9 are great because all of them are concentrated in 3 DS's:
 7/12, 16/21 and 25/30.
« Last Edit: January 06, 2018, 05:51:51 AM by palestis »
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