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#### MrPerfect.

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##### The definition of a HG
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2017, 11:55:27 AM »
Holy not holy don't matter. It should make money.
Casinos surely have one at the form of twisted odds in their favor.
No need to invent bicycle , just reverse odds and here you have it! Hg that everyone is looking for.
I mean... it already exists,  it's in front of everyone eyes, just need to open them to see. Recepy is simple REVERSE THE ODDS.

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#### Reyth

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##### Re: The definition of a HG
« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2017, 01:46:59 PM »
If AP can do it so can system players.

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#### dobbelsteen

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##### Re: The definition of a HG
« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2017, 01:52:44 PM »
For all the 37 number bets you can statistical compute the DTOP. The  1 number bet has a DTOP of 1. That means that every system start with a loss immediately. the DTOP for a 37 number bet is far over the million.

The 10 steps  EC-SSB has a chance on a loss on average once in a 2^20 event.

Nobody has taken the challenge to design a system with a better performance. It has the feature of a HG, but I have never claimed it. Roulette sessions have an open end. Hit and Run is one of the  keys for success.

Without the knowledge of random sequences it is impossible to develop a profitable system with a strategy.

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##### Re: The definition of a HG
« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2017, 02:31:52 PM »
For all the 37 number bets you can statistical compute the DTOP. The  1 number bet has a DTOP of 1. That means that every system start with a loss immediately. the DTOP for a 37 number bet is far over the million.

The 10 steps  EC-SSB has a chance on a loss on average once in a 2^20 event.

Nobody has taken the challenge to design a system with a better performance. It has the feature of a HG, but I have never claimed it. Roulette sessions have an open end. Hit and Run is one of the  keys for success.

Without the knowledge of random sequences it is impossible to develop a profitable system with a strategy.
I looked once for the definition of DTOP, can you tell me where to find the detailed explanation of it please? thx

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##### The definition of a HG
« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2017, 02:38:36 PM »
If AP can do it so can system players.
l would say , if one can become AP,  other can do it as well.

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##### Re: The definition of a HG
« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2017, 03:36:14 PM »
Rinad I have published the theory of the DRTOP in my blog.

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##### Re: The definition of a HG
« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2017, 04:01:36 PM »
I see many posts making difference between AP and System player. Both look same!!! Both use often same tools!!! It's money management,  bet selection ets...
Difference is only one: AP looks device, System player looks table. Sooner or later System player arrive to realisation that there is no money to be made on the table, it's enevitable!  There you have it, one more AP come to be. The more people come to realisation of this simple fact, more easy it is on rest of us.
It's a hard work, need to make entire library of posible cases, studies of any particular case... ets. More help- more easy it becomes.
It's a team work, it can be time consuming and too harsh for individual . Hystory knows cases where colaboration of many for common good was beneficial,  all big hits was result of team work!!! Unfortunately , realisation of simple facts is not easy and many AP simply do not belive that others can do it.
I do belive!!! I did everything for it be possible. I created methodology how to study, nessesary tools, programs,  devices, simulators... ets.
To say the truth, f*** the help, l can do it alone. But help still welcome.  2-3 people can do much more money then one only.

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##### Re: The definition of a HG
« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2017, 04:24:11 PM »

Yea ! Yea ! and YEA ! again Mr.Perfect. A True Believer !
I think you have missed kav's subtle (  ? ) video on the forum's Homepage !

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##### Re: The definition of a HG
« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2017, 11:15:47 PM »
It's a nice video that show exactly where general public understanding reside, unfortunately.

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##### Re: The definition of a HG
« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2017, 03:24:06 AM »
A holy grail to me is a way to play that has to earn a net profit after a reasonable long time. There will be losses irrespective of whatever safeguards one can have but losses should not be super huge even in the worst possible patches and recovery should be smoother.
In nutshell, only that way to play is an HG that guarantees profit if we keep playing.

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##### Re: The definition of a HG
« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2017, 04:52:21 AM »

@ Dobelsteen

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The 10 steps  EC-SSB has a chance on a loss on average once in a 2^20 event.

You martingale 10 times, not 20, no matter how many spins you observe before you start your martingale progression it doesn't make any difference because you get paid (or not) for what you bet, not what you see.
Get it?

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Nobody has taken the challenge to design a system with a better performance. It has the feature of a HG, but I have never claimed it. Roulette sessions have an open end. Hit and Run is one of the  keys for success.

You cannot claim that you have reinvented the wheel just because you are using a doubling up progression.
So much talking and analysis about a martingale in combination with hit and run and according to you there is nothing better than this??!

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#### dobbelsteen

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##### Re: The definition of a HG
« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2017, 08:39:57 AM »
The main feature of SSB is, that you have not to wait for a trigger such as 10 Reds ,10 Highs or 10 Evens.
After every hit you can start with a new trial with a new 10event trigger.
You lose that trial after a 20 steps event such as 20 Reds, 20 Highs or 20 evens. I have not designed  a new roulette , but a new particular table layout. The Dutch Roulette tables have great advantages on the classic tables. On the Dutch tables the AP and the system players can have more fun.

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