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#### What is the way to beat roulette

A great bet selection (flat betting)
A great progression (waggerng plan)
One needs both a great progression and a great bet selection
Main thing is the bet selection, but a good progression can help
Main thing is the progression, but a good bet selection can help

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#### dobbelsteen

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##### Re: Bet selection (flat bet) or progression or both?
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2017, 09:43:18 AM »
Juice nobody can play 500 spins in the casino. A 500 test of a system can be very useful to abroad your knowledge about random rows. Read my theory about the DTOP and you understand that the theory of the law of the the large numbers fails.

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#### BlueAngel

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##### Re: Bet selection (flat bet) or progression or both?
« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2017, 04:31:09 PM »
Let's say that there were 35 numbers with 36 times payout, would this be sufficient to guarantee a long term profit regardless of what, how, when I'm betting?

The extra 0, or less payout is just a drop in the ocean in my point of view.

Every bet selection has its probability and respective payout, if the selection is reasonably stable there wouldn't need progression in the first place.
Weak selections cannot become winners with progressions, would only maximize the loss sooner or later.

Can a progression match the variance limits, I think not in practical terms.
With infinite bankroll and vast table limits every selection would be a winner because everything eventually happens.

Even after 5 times in a row for the same number nothing prevents it to come for 6th consecutive time because it still has its position within the wheel.

We cannot argue with the above statements but we have to focus on the practical side of things rather than the theories if we aim to win.

The wheel and the ball don't move by themselves, a hand sets them in motion and that hand has been trained to spin with different power each time, so if you believe that by looking recent past results are irrelevant then why physical variables are good indicator?
Don't they alter from spin to spin?
Even machines being programmed to alter the speed of the ball and rotor spin, therefore what you have seen is already history.

You are not exception to the rule, yes I'm talking to you self proclaimed advantage players!
Ah and last but not least, if you think that you can detect defected wheels before the casinos do, which they monitor their stuff/staff 24/7, then you live in denial, you are fooling yourselves.

Excuse me for telling you the facts, I understand that some prefer to live in their dreamworld, making money by selling books, devices, courses, but not by playing roulette...

Why this mainstream biased fallacies came that long, in the knowledge of the casino industry, it's beyond my comprehension!
And till today, after so many years, there are people who buy those BS!

Give us a f...king break with the physics!

#### MrPerfect.

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##### Re: Bet selection (flat bet) or progression or both?
« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2017, 06:01:29 PM »
BA, your post sounds like a speach of looser...
I'm not " self proclamed AP", casinos consider me one. And l say that physics matters, probably not in your dream world, but in reality - definitely does! Werrify such a statement is very easy... jump from building, you will see that gravity is still there .
No one is guilty that you ignored physics or math classes in the school, no need to blame others for your limitations.  It's unpolite.

#### LiveRouletteOnlinePlayer

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##### Re: Bet selection (flat bet) or progression or both?
« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2017, 12:51:10 PM »
Progression bets player needs to go all the bets until the end otherwise losses money but when the last bet does not hit so the whole amount of money that has started playing is completely lost but even this could help stop loss which would at least prevent it from losing all the money maybe lose just 50%
Balvinder Sambhin roulette systems are an example of long progression bets first collected by losing spins a certain time ago starting to play long progression bets believing that the win will come sooner than the specified last progression bet but when going over its last progression bet then losing all the money since roulette has no limits or amounts within the spins quantity it is a winning gain
« Last Edit: December 03, 2017, 12:57:11 PM by LiveRouletteOnlinePlayer »

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#### Jesper

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##### Re: Bet selection (flat bet) or progression or both?
« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2017, 01:24:51 PM »
Juice nobody can play 500 spins in the casino. A 500 test of a system can be very useful to abroad your knowledge about random rows. Read my theory about the DTOP and you understand that the theory of the law of the the large numbers fails.

I think anybody can play 500 spins. That is quite normal it needs 500 spins to get 500 units. On a BM casino it may takes more than a day. I did today near 500 spins to get 500. That's faster on line, but doable on most casinos.
The minimum stake can be somethat high at BM.

The number of which is the name of the picture is the number of sessions whitout a loss.
We all know, trick like stoploss just buy some time, we start next time with the goal to come positive again, and therefore a game can stretch out several days. I have had some 1000 spins sometimes, to get things straight. I Count each session eneded when on plus, and it can be very hard sometimes. I do not use step progressions, but think I can not win flat.

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