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Mike; please, back to the future now.

"No Go" zones in London = Muslim controlled areas.
There is no respect for western culture from Muslim quarters. There is equally no respect for Muslim culture from western quarters. The difference in culture is just too vast to create a balanced multi-cultured society.

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90ties.... someone has reality update pending.....
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So it's basically just like it was in the 90s..................except for a few pockets of gangs................that have increased the murder rate to that near NYC...................and caused the city to attempt to outlaw knives.

Other than that, it's just like it was in the 90s. 8)

You don't have the stats to back you up so you're reduced to quoting newspaper headlines and snark. Nice. 8)
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Guns wasn't designed to kill people!!! What they do is fire bullets.

LOL!
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Not sure which you want to debate; the blips or the bigger picture?


The bigger picture, as I keep saying...

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What are the signs that England has grown up exactly?

Well, for one thing, we don't have 89 guns for every 100 people.

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Now be careful, because you just made a comment about how London is basically the same as it was in the 90s, which sounds so absurd that it does look like trolling, and I'm sure you would like to be taken seriously.

With respect to "no go" areas it's basically the same. Try not to take things out of context, learn how to debate properly if you're going to do it. Or do you just want to be snarky? I can do that too if you like.
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Guns wasn't designed to kill people!!! What they do is fire bullets. Hands do direct bullets and these hands do not belong to the guns. Let guns be and no one gonna be harmed.
   Guns are just objects, as any object it can kill. Knife can  kill as well. I work with the knife every day, does it make me a killer?
   Why people prefer to blame something or someone else for trabble they cause themselves? ???
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There are no "no go" zones in London that I'm aware of, although I don't live there now. And I doubt if things have changed that much since the 90's when I live there. On the contrary, London is more "gentrified" than it ever was. There are some problems with gangs in certain parts of London which is where the recent spate of knife crimes have largely occurred.

So it's basically just like it was in the 90s..................except for a few pockets of gangs................that have increased the murder rate to that near NYC...................and caused the city to attempt to outlaw knives.

Other than that, it's just like it was in the 90s. 8)
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Nice try, but London is still the safer city. It had less than half the number of homicides than NY last year. Like I said, you have to look at the bigger picture, not statistical blips :

List of countries by intentional homicide rate.

USA about 5 times that of the UK.

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Starting to understand why we dropped you guys like a bad habit. 8)

Awww, you're still a young country. Give it a few hundred years and you might start to grow up.   ;)

Not sure which you want to debate; the blips or the bigger picture? Just let me know, as Scarface liked to constantly change the terms, so I don't want to waste everyone's time again.

What are the signs that England has grown up exactly?

Now be careful, because you just made a comment about how London is basically the same as it was in the 90s, which sounds so absurd that it does look like trolling, and I'm sure you would like to be taken seriously.
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Mike, please tell us of the "No Go" zones in London?

Micky,

There are no "no go" zones in London that I'm aware of, although I don't live there now. And I doubt if things have changed that much since the 90's when I live there. On the contrary, London is more "gentrified" than it ever was. There are some problems with gangs in certain parts of London which is where the recent spate of knife crimes have largely occurred.

Don't believe the "fake news", especially from Trump.  ;D
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Gun laws differ throughout the world.
Speed limits on roads and the enforcement of these limits differ throughout the world.
The age of consent/approval for sex, alcohol, drivers licence and owning a firearm are all based on the presumed maturity of the person. This is where generalisation can go horribly wrong.

What makes the difference in death tolls in any country is the mental make up of that society.
If the mental make up changes it reflects in crime violence and death.

Mike, please tell us of the "No Go" zones in London?
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