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Roulette Systems / Re: Hits v Repeaters
« Last post by sam41 on Yesterday at 03:17:07 PM »
Just won 35 units with 4 out of 4 hits. Got 9 unique numbers, (purely as I wasn't ready in time to bet after 8 but it worked out for me!) won the first couple of bets then sat out. A new one came in, then I re-bet and won. Then I sat out what would have been 3 more wins in a row, but oh well. So at this point I decided to flip it and bet on all the pairs yet to appear as we had 6 repeats already in 16 spins and only 10 pairs appearing. We have 2 spins left so a good chance at least one will be a newbie. And indeed it was on the next spin so I stopped there.

This was a pretty 'normal' cycle of 18 spins I think. Technically if I'd been ready in time I would have lost the first bet on 8 uniques but I'd still be nicely up overall with the 4 wins that followed. You do have to use your initiative a little bit with this and look at what's appearing, and decide when to bet or not.
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Roulette Systems / Re: Hits v Repeaters
« Last post by sam41 on Yesterday at 02:03:12 PM »
Just tried playing the split repeaters, it worked quite well but I think it needs a better wagering plan for when losing runs occur. Martingale is too risky and flat betting for 4 or 5 losses in a row is hard to recover from. You could increase by 1 unit each time but that can still be hard to recover.

One adjustment I have made is I wait for 8 uniques then join the game. This means over the next 10 spins we expect 6 repeats and 4 more new pairs. The problem still arises if the new ones come right away or you get 4 or 5 more in a row. It's unlikely but possible.

Flat betting is generally considered best, most experts frown on any system that involves progression. Perhaps it just has to be more of a grind. At least if you get a long run of new pairs, a bunch of repeats are going to follow. But if you're up to 12 or 13 pairs by then, your return on each spin is less than it would have been when on 8 or 9 pairs.

My experience has been you do need to keep betting on the further back pairs as they often hit, so keeping it to the last 8 I don't think will work consistently.

Still, I finished up 36 units to the good so it's a good start.
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Gambling Philosophy / Re: Wise quotes
« Last post by mr j on Yesterday at 04:02:06 AM »
Moderation is for cowards.
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Roulette Systems / Re: Hits v Repeaters
« Last post by ice789 on July 14, 2018, 10:41:48 AM »
I THINK BET SESSION HAVE LOSE HAVE WIN AVERAGE WIN ?

OR WIN EVERY SESSION MAX DRAWDOWN ?

I WANT TEST LONG RUN
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Roulette Systems / Re: Hits v Repeaters
« Last post by sam41 on July 14, 2018, 10:36:34 AM »
I don't quite get it, Ice. Might be how your post reads on my phone but it's not clear to me. I see you split on consecutive numbers, I go left to right. Perhaps it doesn't really matter though. But you can't split say, 3 and 4 so need to use 2 smaller chips.

I just examined my new method on 3 live playtech wheels and would have smashed all 3 of them! What seems clear though is that if 0 appears it's worth placing a chip on that each time, also if you're up to about 8 or 9 chips being placed it's also worth covering 0 then too.

This is going to be one of those where you only see how it can lose when it actually happens I think. Right now it's hard to see how it can, as long as you have enough bank.
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Roulette Systems / Re: Hits v Repeaters
« Last post by GIAJJENNO on July 14, 2018, 10:14:39 AM »
Sorry for my stupid question, but I downloaded the roulette xtreme, and I had aeound 20x 360 minute to try it. It is very good, long time, but today I cross out the last limit too.

Now I had to buy it, or has somebody free codes, or on the internet can I find? Not the money, the 40 euro really worth this program, nice, I liked it, just a question, if not must, I not spend money :)

Thanks

Giajjenno
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Roulette Systems / Re: Hits v Repeaters
« Last post by ice789 on July 14, 2018, 10:10:47 AM »
PLS HELP ME

FOR EDIT FOR RESET AFTER PROFIT NO POP UP

I WANT TEST RUN LONG TIME AND I WANT ADD ANY PROGRESSION

FOR SAVE MAX DRAWDOWN
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Roulette Systems / Re: Hits v Repeaters
« Last post by ice789 on July 14, 2018, 09:55:35 AM »

http://www.uxsoftware.com/roulette/systems/docs/HOLLY.pdf

FREE RX-CODE http://www.uxsoftware.com/roulette/systems/v20/Holly_Grail_System.dgt

EDIT MY VERSION PLAY d'alembert ONLY IF PROFIT RESET

PLS CHECK MAX DRAWDOWN ???

system "Holly Grail System V.ICE789"
{
    V.C.M. HOLY GRAIL SYSTEM

    RX-ed by UX Software
}
method "main"
begin
    While Starting a New Session
    begin
        put 9999999 to record "Martingale Max" data

        group
        begin
            Display "Holly Grail Roulette System
            "

            Input Dropdown "Enter Type of Progression betting
                    2:= D'Alembert
                    3:= Martingale" to record "Progression Type" data

            Input Data "If Martingale, enter Maximum Martingale Bet
                        (needed for Casino Maximum)" to record "Martingale Max" data
        end

        Call "Init"

    end

    While on Each Spin
    begin
        if spin count >=9999999999 then
        begin
            Display "Spin count 65 reached.

                    System will Stop"

            Stop Session
            Exit
        end

        Copy last number to record "last number" layout

        call "Record hit"
        Call "Transfer hits"

        if record "last number" layout not found in record "track 18" layout
        begin
            if flag "ready to bet" is true
            and flag "Have bet" is true
            begin
                Add 1 to record "lost" data
                Add 1 to record "total lost" data

                if record "Progression Type" data = 3 then
                begin
                    Multiply 2 to record "progression" data

                    if record "progression" data > record "Martingale Max" data
                    begin
                        Display "You have reached the Martingale Maximum

                                System will Stop"

                        Stop Session
                        Exit
                    end
                end

                if record "Progression Type" data = 2 then
                begin
                    Add 1 to record "progression" data
                end

                if record "lost" data > 999999999
                begin
                    Display "You have lost 7 times in a row.

                             System will Stop"

                    Stop Session
                    Exit
                end

                call "Remove oldest hit"
            end

            Track Last number for 18 times to record "track 18" layout

            if record "track 18" layout count = 18
            begin
                set flag "ready to bet" to true
            end
        end
        else
        begin
            if flag "ready to bet" is true
            and record "wait count" data = 1
            and flag "Have bet" is true
            begin
                Put 0 on record "lost" data
                Add 1 to record "total win" data

                if record "Progression Type" data = 2 then
                begin
                    Subtract 1 to record "progression" data
                end

                if record "Progression Type" data = 3 then
                begin
                    Put 1 to record "progression" data
                end

                if record "progression" data <=0
                begin
                    Put 1 on record "progression" data
                end
            end
        end

        if flag "ready to bet" is true
        and record "wait count" data = 1
        begin
            put 100% of record "total win" data to record "result" data
            Subtract 100% of record "total lost" data to record "result" data

            if record "result" data > =9999999999 then
            begin
                Display "You won 7 times more that you lost.

                         System will Stop"

                Stop Session
                Exit
            end

            Call "Place Bets"
        end

        if record "wait count" data = 0
        and flag "ready to bet" is true
        begin
            put 1 on record "wait count" data
        end
    end
end

method "Place Bets"
begin
    put 100% of record "progression" data to record "track 18" layout list
    set flag "Have bet" to true
end

method "Record hit"
begin
    put 1 on record "numbers" layout index

    Loop until record "numbers" Layout index > record "numbers" Layout count
    begin
        if record "last number" Layout = record "numbers" Layout
        begin
            put 100% of record "numbers" Layout index to record "numbers" data index
            Add 1 to record "numbers" data
            return
        end

        Add 1 to record "numbers" Layout index
    end
end

method "Transfer hits"
begin
    put 1 on record "track 18" layout index

    Loop until record "track 18" Layout index > record "track 18" Layout count
    begin
        put 1 on record "numbers" layout index

        Loop until record "numbers" Layout index > record "numbers" Layout count
        begin
            if record "numbers" Layout = record "track 18" Layout
            begin
                put 100% of record "numbers" Layout index to record "numbers" data index
                put 100% of record "track 18" Layout index to record "track 18" data index
                put 100% of record "numbers" data to record "track 18" data
            end

            Add 1 to record "numbers" Layout index

        end

        Add 1 to record "track 18" Layout index
    end
end

method "Remove oldest hit"
begin
    put 1 on record "track 18" data index
    clear record "temp" layout
    clear record "temp" data
    set flag "found" to false

    put 1 on record "temp" data index

    Loop until record "track 18" data index > record "track 18" data count
    begin
        if record "track 18" data = 1
        begin
            if flag "found" is false
            begin
                put 0 on record "track 18" data
                set flag "found" to true
            end
        end

        if record "track 18" data not = 0
        begin
            put 100% of record "track 18" data to record "temp" data
            put 100% of record "track 18" Data index to record "track 18" Layout index
            put 100% of record "temp" data index to record "temp" layout index
            copy record "track 18" layout to record "temp" layout
            Add 1 to record "temp" data index
        end

        Add 1 to record "track 18" data index
    end

    Duplicate record "temp" to record "track 18"
end

method "Init"
begin
    copy list [number 00, number 0, number 1, number 2, number 3,number 4,number 5,number 6,
    number 7,number 8,number 9,number 10,number 11,number 12,number 13,number 14,
    number 15,number 16,number 17,number 18,number 19,number 20,number 21,number 22,
    number 23,number 24,number 25,number 26,number 27,number 28,number 29,number 30,
    number 31,number 32,number 33,number 34,number 35,number 36] to record"numbers"layout

    clear record "numbers" data
    put 0 on record "wait count" data
    set flag "ready to bet" to false
    put 1 on record "progression" data
    put 0 on record "total lost" data
    put 0 on record "total win" data
    set flag "won" to false
    set flag "Have bet" to false

    Reset Spin Count
end

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Roulette Systems / Re: Hits v Repeaters
« Last post by sam41 on July 14, 2018, 09:53:03 AM »
Well you only increase if youre not in a new high profit after a win. LWLW would still be returning a profit especially early on when only betting on 6 or 7 splits. I think youdy only do up as you win if you'd been flat betting on several losses in a row. But then you expect at least a few wins to come.

It probably can still lose but it would need to be a sequence that has a high number of splits and few consecutive repeats. I think if that happened it would be worth playing on beyond 18 spins and crossing off splits that drop out of the last 18 spins. Repeats have to come eventually! It's just how we manage the bankroll to that point.
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Roulette Systems / Re: Hits v Repeaters
« Last post by Sputnik on July 14, 2018, 09:48:36 AM »


Maybe if you look at the distribution using binomial probability you can find something.
One split has 50% likelihood to hit within twelve attempts.

Then you can watch singles and series and watch hot and cold.
But you would need to be an even money expert to read and understand variance to know how and when to take advantage.

Cheers

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