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Title: The making of HEXAGON
Post by: thomasleor on March 18, 2016, 08:26:22 PM
Hello ladies and gentlemen.

This is not an attempt to sell a system, or promote one. I have no such desires. I am more here to share my experiences with this fascinating game.  So see this rather long post,  as more of a little story about my background in this volatile river with its dangerous rapids we all have come to know as roulette.

Let me introduce myself.  My name is Thomas and I recently stumbled over this, what seems to be a most excellent roulette forum.

I´ ve been an avid fan of this game for over three decades now, and still can´t stop being fascinated by its dynamics, beauty and being a  source of most satisfying entertainment and income.

That is,  if used with discipline, good knowledge and above all, good tools at your side as you play in a good casino.

First of all,  before I continue,  you have to excuse my inadequate english as it is not my first language, but I promise to try my best making myself understandable.

Since my first encounter with this game, the first question I asked myself was; “Is it possible to develop some form of system that can produce a satisfying stream of income, on a daily, or weekly basis?”. 

At the time I asked this question there were no computers,  able to handle the needed processing power and interface needed for a real-time calculus versus any available casino. Heck, there was not even an Internet! LOL.

Any developed system you could apply, you had to calculate the various odds and algorithms in your head,  just by using a pencil and paper at a live casino, like the Casino of Baden-Baden at the famous wonderful town of Baden-Baden, Germany, or the Monte Carlo Casino,  in Monaco.

Suffice to say,  I soon discovered, having gone through every available roulette system and betting strategy for such manual purposes , that all were far to simple, unstable, with horrid odds when applied on the long run, and due to lack of superior data-processing power, unable to offer the player a sufficient edge over the casino.

You may be able to count cards at the Black Jack table, if you belong to a tiny elite of well trained gamblers, but calculating the various percentages needed for a powerful roulette-system,  like for example predicting a number  based on the computation of the latest 30 numbers, with a bet size, being  11 number wide strip on the wheel, with that number in the center of the targeted wheel slot, made me develop a system that used 600,000 calculating cells, processing over 100,000 algorithms every time I entered a new drawn number.

I could only do this when I bought a sufficiently powerful computer around 2005.  Perfect for my theory of developing systems applicable on Online Casinos. No RNG:s, only Live play with real dealers.Before that, such tasks were impossible.

I developed many such systems. But none of them could offer me a satisfying, working every day, or weekly income for the game I loved.

Sure , I had systems producing unbelievable results were I could win 15-18 times in a row out of 20 predicted spins  (with my 11 number betting strategy), but the very same system could next day produce a loss of the entire bank roll (when I stress tested it without stop loss methodology and sometimes even with implemented stop loss).

They were all what I would call unstable systems, that  once they were stressed tested, were unable to make the player relaxed, with a secure view over things as the game developed.I realized, that a good system needed to be so efficient, considering the usual online casinos that do not have visiting clients but dealers that spin the wheel for a tv, with the average spin taking around 60 seconds from one wheel spin, time to bet and to next wheel spin.

A player could most count on 20-30 seconds of thinking and betting time before the sign “no-more-bets” came up.There is also an extremely important factor known as gambling psychology.

Yes, I have met many players , that like to talk and brag about their systems, but if you could look at them when they are on a losing streak,  you can see how they lose faith in their own system , by the way they do “side bets”  (to hedge the already “secure” system LOL).

You know, a good strong mind, stable and self-confident in the system it applies,  is Alpha and Omega in all gambling. If anyone tells you otherwise, they are lying, or merely plain stupid. I can spot a professional player, confident in his system by the way he or she bets. It tells you a lot if they are going to leave a table as winners or losers.

For the past ten years I have developed, as a hobby,  around 800 such systems,  covering every aspect of the roulette game.From the wheel bias analysis (forget it,  as todays wheels are incredibly precise), to various pattern-plays on the table, and of course even the theories of a very interesting , but half mad American gentleman,  that offered something called Vibrational math.

It was supposedly a quasi-science developed by him,  where he believed every number had a specific innate frequency to which it interacted in a sort of interdependence with other numbers at any given moment of the day.

For example, such as  15,434Hz was the fixed vibration for number 0, up to 123,420Hz for number 36. If you applied these frequencies on roulette, as to calculate the various combinations of numbers that had been spun previously (usually 15-20 numbers), you were supposed to be able to predict at least the next two upcoming spins (on a eleven number wide strip on the wheel)  based on a rather complex algos a sufficiently certain probability the next number.

Sure I tested his theories, and I do mean really tested. Developed massive amounts of algos, where I could  see things like this at the other end come up (this is but one of many system platforms I developed, many years back).

In the inserted  first image below,  you see one of these many, many, systems  This one called System VR 1.http://postimg.org/image/za91ue79b/

The arrows from number one shows how the system predicts with a history of  57-64% hit rate for those six columns you see to the right in the image. All color-coded for easy identification. You can also see them applied on the wheel  for instant reading and betting. A sort of “look and play” tool that grants you valuable seconds to place your bet before the dealer closes the online table for the next spin.

As you see in the image the system predicted the upcoming area around number 2 rather precisely (bet on 25 with 5 numbers on each side of the number on the wheel gives you a loss of -11 as number 26 comes up (which the system warned had a 57% hit record history in green column with number 35 as it next predicted 11 bet area). 

Next drawn number is 17 which is a win and gives back +25 units.In image 2 you see further down the session an interesting development;http://postimg.org/image/fbxs5rby7/

The system is now on 42 units plus, and the next predicted area is around number 30 with 62% probability and around 24 with 52%. A bet on 36 gives a loss (-11) and a win (of +25 units) on the second spin (25thspin in the image).

  If you watch the Unit ledge (past games) you see that the system had a good harvest of units earlier that day. 576 units to be exact. It was a good day.But in my meticulous eyes and high demands of continuous stability this system didn’t hold water.

Though very promising and very easy to play with its “Look and play” design, I put it back into the archives of more promising system to recheck in the future should I not find anyone better and more stable.And so, I went  on….until I looked back at some old systems involving dozen play and realized that now, many years later and more experienced I could approach it in ways I couldn’t  in the beginning of my system-development hobby.

So I proceeded with an originally very simple system, that I decided to rebuild and add some very important features and necessary betting information,  in order to make a bet as fast and secure as possible in the volatile sea of probability.

When it was finished, and stress tested over an extended period, I realized a beauty was born.

I chose to call it Hexagon due to the continuous six "dozen" and "column"  of number producing series.

http://postimg.org/image/twev0l6wv/

But that is another story, for another rainy day ;) 

To..be continued.
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: kav on March 18, 2016, 08:41:38 PM
Hello and welcome.

Interesting post. I really hope "This is not an attempt to sell a system, or promote one". Looking forward to the second part.
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: thomasleor on March 18, 2016, 08:50:19 PM
Hello.

No. I don´t need to sell my system. It makes me money and gives me also the special pleasure, roulette grants a player, when he, or she, is able to "predict" the most probable outcome with sufficient security and stable continuity.

regards

T

Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: scepticus on March 19, 2016, 01:09:03 AM
Hello.

No. I don´t need to sell my system. It makes me money and gives me also the special pleasure, roulette grants a player, when he, or she, is able to "predict" the most probable outcome with sufficient security and stable continuity.

regards

T
As my username suggests , I am a sceptic. Like kav hints  I think your "Free Video" is luring the unwary to buy "something".
That aside , your system
Needs a 1,000 bankroll ?
Uses a unit of 10 ? (100 units @10 )
Waits for 20 spins before betting ?
Like kav I look forward to your following posts .Everyone in this forum is interest in claims of " The Holy Grail".
BTW Congratulations on your English. It  is good . 
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: december on March 19, 2016, 06:02:38 AM
Listening...
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: Rourke on March 19, 2016, 06:27:16 AM
Sorry man... But your post seem a bit dodgy... I don't know if I should play roulette or fall in love.
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: thomasleor on March 19, 2016, 08:04:35 AM
Ha, ha, ha...nice one. Well, as i do not know how to insert images into this forum i chose that image uploader as to solve the problem of attaching some images of one of my many developed gaming platforms.

The young lady, that you saw beneath, I guess is on the house, or lets say, the curse of connecting yourself to "services, free of charge" ;)
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: thomasleor on March 19, 2016, 08:25:23 AM

As my username suggests , I am a sceptic. Like kav hints  I think your "Free Video" is luring the unwary to buy "something".
That aside , your system
Needs a 1,000 bankroll ?
Uses a unit of 10 ? (100 units @10 )
Waits for 20 spins before betting ?
Like kav I look forward to your following posts .Everyone in this forum is interest in claims of " The Holy Grail".


You do now where your nickname derives from, don´t you? Being originally of greek birth, but raised in a northern region of Europe, I still "react" to anything of "greek" origin, especially if it has ancient root.

Diogenes Laertius at IX. 73–74, sums up Scepticism for anyone interested in its true definition quite well which puts anything produced by an open, creative mind, in the Sceptic’s unappreciating and limited ballpark. A Sceptic´s approach t things of any given permutation is a fascinating approach to the unlimited possibilities of a Universe, versus a mind of high, yet still limited knowledge/intelligence in comparison,  to say the least.


           "The Sceptics, then, were constantly engaged in overthrowing the dogmas of all schools, but            enuntiated none themselves; and though they would go so far as to bring forward and expound the dogmas of the others, they themselves laid down nothing definitely, not even the laying down of nothing  saying, for instance, “We determine nothing,” since otherwise they would have been betrayed into determining; but we put forward, say they, all the theories for the purpose of indicating our unprecipitate attitude, precisely as we might have done if we had actually assented to them."

When it comes to the bankroll of 1000 Euros contra the unit-size of 10 Euros, yes the system is suffciently played with that 10:1 factor,  in terms of money/betting management. At least in my case.


You could as easily play it with 100 euros with 1 euro units, on a low limits table and work yourself up to a larger bankroll.

Personally,  I find 1000 - 3000 euros  a nice and sufficient bankroll to risk, when I choose to enjoy the game, knowing my return will land in the near ballpark of 30-40% after a days play (which includes 1-3 sessions, depending on the number/pattern appearances during 40-80 spins in each entered session).

If I play more than that, something, what i call (in a coming post) "psychological/enviromenatal" interference  starts to affect the system, increasing the risk of a losing session occuring before the end of the day.
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: ernroo1 on March 19, 2016, 08:53:48 AM
Well Thomas dont hold back. You now have an eager audience, we want to read as much as we can about your system.
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: thomasleor on March 19, 2016, 09:13:46 AM
Continuing the series with this post made in a format more akin to the Q&A technique. I found it necessary as some here believe I am trying to sell something, they cannot develop themselves.

Are you here to sell us a “roulette system”?
Thirty years ago, when I was a curious, and rather arrogant and snobbish young lad, I decided to enjoy the French/Italian Riviera.

I guess it was a kind of a romantic trip, stretching from the sun drenched coastline and beauty of S:t Tropez , through the extravagances of Monaco, passing through the lush border of Italian Ventimiglia, and down to the tiny,  yet gorgeous village of Cinque Terre, close to Portofino, Italy.



In a tiny "motel"/pink house, belonging to an old lady, on a special hot summer day,  I recalled an encounter I had with a wise old gambler in his 80s, during a week long visit at the Monte Carlo Casino.


It was in the luxurious high-stake tables known at those times, as “Salon Prive”,  which today also are known as “Salons Super Prives”. (even an old lady like Miss Monte Carlo can decide to upgrade her looks as to keep attracting young and old gamblers, into her inner sanctum...LOL).


As I was putting down rather hefty bets at the roulette table, trying out some rather ludicrous betting system, the inexperienced "me" of those times had bought from a passing by gambler the previous day of visit,  I was loosing a lot of money.


Beside me, stood this old man that smiled as he observed how I was betting all over the place, as the losses increased and asked me some questions about what "system" I used, and if I had developed it myself? I told him that I was new to this game and had bought it for a small sum, from a gambler I had shared a dinner table at the Monte Carlo Restaurant two days earlier.

He looked at me with a compassionate smile and gave me one of the best advices of my life. That is the “gambling-aspect” of my life;

“Anyone offering to sell you a gambling system, has instantly forfeited its trustworthiness.”


Today,  so many years later,  I really understand what he meant and why he said it. 

If you cannot understand, or accept the basis of the old mans axiom, I am afraid you do not understand the basics of any system development, based on biased, or, unbiased number/symbol/pattern generation, be it number/symbol/pattern generators like a dice game like craps, card games like black jack, or, the crown jewel of all games of chance - roulette.

But to be blunt.

Heck, no!  I am just here,  not only for my own amusement, but also to hopefully take part and discuss various roulette systems, and of course share my experience with system-development through an entire decade of deep research into the various aspects of this game.

I chose the rather “selling” and smirky title of my OP,  as a colorful  introduction of myself and my experiences from dealing with general system-development based on observation/analysis of complex number/symbol/pattern generators.


If anything,  try to see it as my cup of “humour”  mixed with a certain measure of seriosity.

What signifies a good “roulette-system” and Is Hexagon such a system?


Let me answer the last part of the question first.

Let me be clear. Hexagon is a rather advanced system,  developed and simplified in terms of user friedliness for my own personal use and my own specific set of skills (and needs), when it comes to active roulette gambling.


Its main purpose was as much to entertain myself as to make me some money which served to to prove its validity (and stability) in real life play during any given period, I decided to participate in the game. 

Additionally, of course,  it was developed  to reduce the “gambling-factor” to a minimum,  as to not destroy the invested bankroll after continuous use against the dreaded “house edge–monster”.


A "monster" ;) which, according to most gamblers,  swallows and spits out the bones of any gambler trying to beat the “house” with a mere paper and pencil, or their own minds.

I soon realized that no Live Casino with a physical play at their tables can ever be beaten (on the long run) because of the limits every casino sets in terms of rules (no calculators or computers allowed at the table), mixed with environmental interference which any seasoned gambler can testify to be true.



What do you mean?

Michael Small, a statistician at The University of Western Australia in Perth once said,  "Knowing the initial conditions of a game like roulette, allows you to beat the odds. And in some cases you can beat them significantly.


”The famous “house-edge” of roulette is nothing compared to the  “house/Casino-edge” based on the human weaknesses and inability to deal with psychological obstacles,  due to environmental interference, and the analytic ignorance,  which is lack of strategic chance/betting analysis-distribution in the mind of the game-participating player.

Eliminate the latter  factors by playing in a calm environment (your home)  with a system platform based on the superior calculation speed of a computer and a coherent, understandable interface, and you will discover that the tiny house-edge of the roulette (European) including the Casino(house) edge, based on environmental interference, Casinos have developed to an art,  is turned against them,  and with way, way room  to spare ;)

Why, and above all, how, you may ask?

As I told you in one of your earlier questions, Hexagon was  tailor-made,  based on the pre-requested specs I had set up for myself from my earlier “failures” to develop a fast, easy to understand system, in order to enjoy playing against the few live dealer Casinos online.


I never use it against casinos that merely use CGI based gambling-platforms with roulette spins that are purely RNG based, with no live dealers. The latter is only for fools in my book.

Sorry for being blunt.

Anyhow, the specific requests were extracted from 30 years of experience and interest of the game, of which the last ten years were devoted to analyzing complex patterns and betting strategies arising during a roulette session.

This of course combined with real-time probability and risk calculation of said patterns, as they appear/emerge at any given moment at any given "live dealer roulette table".

Contrary to scam-artists and dishonest people  that want to cheat the casino by the use of illegal means,  like those famous Russians that applied cloaked laser-based equipment and computers,  to “loot” an English Casino on millions before they were apprehended, I developed Hexagon to follow the rules of a good Casino, but with superior tools at my disposal, whenever I decided to play online.


For me it was not, and has never been, about greed, or become rich through any system. For me it was about enjoying the game, like enjoying a good cup of Java, and of course earning a nice return (30-40%) every time I risked my bankroll, as a verification that the system worked in real life gaming.

Who knows, perhaps this ability released some measures of serotonin in the brain of this old man, granting a special satisfaction few other things on this planet could.


Excuse me, but you seem to have evaded answering the “how” in more precise terms in your previous response, am I right?

(laughs)… Sure you are!


Now,  the “how”,  I will show in a later phase. Perhaps in part 3 of this original OP, but when it comes to specific details.  Well,  I suggest you pay attention to what I tell you in my posts about my experiences that lead to the development of HEXAGON, my work and philosophy before its conception, and use something of what I say here as to make a system of your own!Remember the golden axiom of the old man, I told you about.

That saying was based on great wisdom of observing and participating in the complex number/pattern generating game of Roulette and the dealings with people who always thought of an easy money making, or get rich quick scheme could beat the complexity of the former. 

Trust me, that saying, will save you a lot of money and perhaps even make you challenge your own Mind. With challenge I mean as to kindle it,  to come up with the ultimate system for yourself, by yourself, all based on your own specific set of developed skills and pre-requirements needed as to enjoy the game and make a nice buck.  ;)
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: thomasleor on March 19, 2016, 09:28:51 AM
Well Thomas dont hold back. You now have an eager audience, we want to read as much as we can about your system.

Thank you, Enroo. Just keep reading my posts and comments and you will have a rather good idea what I am trying to contribute to this forum. :)
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: Dane on March 19, 2016, 09:53:17 AM
Welcome! You seem to be well versed in English! The only error I spotted  so far had to do with LOSING
(many people spell it with "double o". Maybe they also support 00 Double Zero  :)))

One week ago I visited SPIELBANK DUISBURG.  The most modern casino in Germany, I believe.
With a rather futuristic interiour.

Could you please tell us, if you are going to explain  the whole system and nothing but the system
before long?

Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: thomasleor on March 19, 2016, 10:04:32 AM
Welcome! You seem to be well versed in English! The only error I spotted  so far had to do with LOSING
(many people spell it with "double o". Maybe they also support 00 Double Zero
One week ago I visited SPIELBANK DUISBURG.  The most modern casino in Germany, I believe.
With a rather futuristic interiour.

Could you please tell us, if you are going to explain  the whole system and nothing but the system
before long?

I believe I have responded your question in The making of HEXAGON (part 2).

I will most probably, if I have the time, and if the forum accepts a rather looong ;)  or laaarge post,  with at least six to seven images of the Hexagon in play at various stages of a single session, with explanatory arrows pointing out its various automatized functions and betting strategy.

 I can always paste links to the images that I upload to my usual Image uploader if the forum moderators object.

Anyhow, it may serve to inspire you, to one day perhaps build something of your own making, but with the thinking behind the creation of HEXAGON as basis for your own platform.

After all, how many ancient authors have not inspired new ones,  and how many new artists like Picasso and Chagall or Miro,  havent in their subconsciousness, found inpiration from the effort and beauty, produced by those preceeeding them throughout the ages?
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: ernroo1 on March 19, 2016, 10:16:30 AM
Yes the forum accepts your long post and images, we want to hear how your system works please! :) I have all night, I am excited!
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: Geoffrey on March 19, 2016, 10:16:56 AM
maybe it will be explained in the making of hexagon part 387 :P
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: dobbelsteen on March 19, 2016, 10:20:35 AM
Thomasleor .
Since the commodore 64 was introduced as a PC ,i study the roulette game.In all these years I have learned that systems cannot beat the roulette House edge. I have developped the long run and short run theory.
Short run trials hev the feature to end with a profit or lost.
Strategies can beat the roulette but never the HE.
the overall moneymanage is very important. I play nearly 4 times a week in a landbased casino. Not every visit is succesful At the end of the week I make the balance.
In my blog ,you can finda lot of explanation about my theory.
The basic for success is knowledge of short run random sequences. a lot of experience , skill and talent.
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: Geoffrey on March 19, 2016, 10:25:24 AM
To be succesfull it simply aint about a system or strategy, short or long runs. The only thing you need to control is money management, thats it. Pure and simple
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: thomasleor on March 19, 2016, 10:37:03 AM

Since the commodore 64 was introduced as a PC ,i study the roulette game.In all these years I have learned that systems cannot beat the roulette House edge.

Sorry my friend, but you are wrong.
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: ernroo1 on March 19, 2016, 10:52:07 AM
maybe it will be explained in the making of hexagon part 387 :P

hahaa probably ;D
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: thomasleor on March 19, 2016, 03:37:51 PM
Can you go show us a session with Hexagon, presenting and explaining its various functions and its P/L development during such a session?

To a certain degree, sure.

As I explained in my earlier discussions with you, the platform of Hexagon rose from a specific set of needs,  in terms of  user-friendliness, combined with fast processing of the various number/pattern appearances while playing the three dozens and the three columns.


 Included in the system is also a “Zero-predictor”, that lights up in green,  every time the system discovers
the probability of zero coming up,  and a bet must be put on zero to hedge the risk of loosing the bets on the D&Cs against its appearance.

Every such prediction and bet on the zero is valid for three spins, and unless the
parameters set for its appearance are not met, the lamp predicting its appearance will be in off-mode.

When you play the D&Cs,  you cannot apply a simple “point and figure” methodology that traders and economists often used to apply on financial instruments in the old times before todays computers with advanced software took over using far superior means as to predict market movements.

In order to make a reasonable profit from a session playing the D&C:s, once you know how to neutralize the threat from the zero with
sufficientefficiency,  you need to be able to have a system that analyzes all six D:C:s at any given moment and spin, returning values in the form of a platform that tells you instantly what has happened, and what is most probable about to happen.

In Online Roulette gambling, every second the clock is ticking,  counts. To the house, a gamblers errors are not forgiven. Your misunderstanding, or misplacement of bets is the profit of the house, increasing its edge or advantage over you, far morethan thanthe 2,7% you believe it to have.


Not only do you need a the floating statistic calculation of a certain set of spins, but also a formula that calculates fluctuations in terms of pattern appearances. One could say that the former
is presented as a progressive differentiation anomaly,  in terms of the "current lay of the land” compared to the apparent“direction of  the people building or removing houses on/from its soil.

The latter points to a way where the program can instantly tell you within a certain span of spins (often 2-3 spins) when an anomaly is presenting itself worth exploiting. All with a calculated percentage,  showing the difference in percentage between the floating probability algorithm contra the dynamic progressive one (pattern recognizing one).

The difference signals (depending on set parametersin the fine tuning section of Hexagon) when you could, should or not to bet. -

You cannot use D&C gambling in its totality on a manual table with a mere pen and pencil and get away a winner every time.

Sorry, but on a manual casino, even if you are lucky, playing evenings, when the Casino is full of people around the table, and each spinning session takes around 2-3 minutes, you will still find yourself waiting for perhaps hours  before a signal comes of one dozen or column being in play.

Why? because all six are not possible to analyze and decide ,which to bet on, without proper processing power at hand, and we all know what Casinos think of calculators, smartphones or laptops on the table.

So how does does it work then?

Hexagon plays only two, 12 number fields (beside its unique function of predicting the zero), of which one is the dozens and the other the columns. It does not play two dozens or two columns.

The latter is a loosing game (If you know your math youshould beable to understand why.)

The reason to this separated D&C play is the payout, when you have maximal pattern emergence, where a dozen and column runs simultaneously as winners.

This is where Hexagon gives the real boost or turbocharge in terms of profitability and enjoyment!

One could of course turn this the other way and talk about the opposite risk of increased loss but the system have very sophisticated inbuilt tools that minimizes such a bad run,  very fast.

To accomplish this complex set of calculus needed , you have to build a platform that gives you maximum user friendliness in terms of time gain (usually, on most online studio casinos, like Celtic Casino, Ladbrokes or online Casinos like Lucky live or Dublin bet linked to real casinos, and some others) you have 20-30 seconds for your system to analyse  the new spun number, and offering a fast readout enough for you to have time left to place the bet or bets.

What good is a system, if it offers you a good analysis and prediction of coming number patterns, but never offers you sufficient time to place the bet, without stress of  seeing the table closed when the wheel starts spinning? Not much?

In building the HEXAGON, I used my long experience of building system platforms initially based on playing the wheel and not the table (like EVENS, D&Cs etc). I can easily testify that the former is vastly more complex,  than the latter. But the experience, of scrapping hundreds of systems, once they failed to meet a criteria and changing the design to suit your mind and field of vision, was very valuable.

A comparison would be a fighter pilot in need of lightning fast information and the even faster ability to understand it after a read out of a seemingly complex array of sensorsand flight instruments in order toknow what flight path and time to release your robot on the enemy.

Likewise, th design of this system was developed for fast targeting analysis and betting strategy against the Casino.

It may look complex in the beginning, but once you sit down in that "cockpit" and get used to its handling once it is airborne, you will not want to change to any other

....to be continued in the next and final revealing part.
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: thomasleor on March 19, 2016, 03:52:49 PM
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That sounds good and all, but can you show me some examples of a session so I can see it at work?

Sure. Lets look at this first image, or analysis chart 1, as I call it.

(https://forum.roulette30.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi65.tinypic.com%2Faebl2a.jpg&hash=58222916c91eafff8b1003e4a91fe81d)

What you see here is the platform in its basic construction and appearance. What you do not see are the various formulas in the background doing their work,  every time you feed it with a value or spun number.

When you start up the system you do two things first.

A/ write in the given numbers on the online casino you are playing in the left green yellow column . In the image you see that column under the words “Celtic Casino” on the upper far left of the image.

You punch in the numbers on the right of the two columns (the left one, is there only for future analysis and feedback.As you see in the chart,  both columns are used,  because HEXAGON is set for mere analysis of a session I chose to run earlier on that day when I felt particularly bored with things.

B/ The next thing you do, after having filled the visible run number on the casino you just visited, is to go to the “money area” (marked as no. 1 in the image) , and write your current bankroll used in the session, including  the profit goal you desire (bluish square).

Usually I start with 20% of my decided bankroll and as the session develops, depending if the system signals/allows me a quick entry into the game with little danger ahead, or discourages any betting by shining the no-bet lamps bright red, I can always increase that target with an additional 10-20% later that day,  in another session.

My own rule is to never play more than three sessions any chosen day, due to reasons I explained in earlier posts and comments, about psychological/enviroment interference.

The arrows  from no. 2 in the image,  points at the money-management area that recalculate and presents your financial status & development during a session.

As you see now, my pre-set profit goal of 120 Euros is calculated to 12 units a 10 euro each, barred the income I might have from any winnings playing the zero (seen in the arrows from no 4 in the image).

The arrows under no. 3 in the image,  shows a very important part of Hexagon.

As mentioned earlier in this post it shows the difference, in percentage, between the statistical algorithm  contra the one presenting dynamic progression (number/pattern anomalies) and direction.

So far, the chart you see, shows that the first dozen has scored 8 hits in 20 spins which is corresponds to 40% and a dynamic pattern development corresponding to 63%.

The difference between the two here is 23%, which indicates a strong signal to place a bet on the first dozen.As you see the next four numbers, to be spun, are 0,11,11,12 which are 3 wins out of 4, as these numbers belong to the first dozen.

The betting strategy here, when beginning a session is (usually) that you need 2 wins to allow betting on the dozens or the columns (or both at the same time if such signal indicates wins on both).

What you see in the image is that 0 is a no go (the zero indicator missed that one LOL), 11 and 11 are both wins which means that you have a go to start betting on dozens, those both wins are marked with a "+" in the light brown/orange P/L column. To illustrate said development we see how the platform looks six spins later.

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As you see, on the arrows from  no 1 in the image,  two wins are marked with  “+” and marks the entry into betting on the dozens. The spun number series, since the previous image, are 0,11,11,12,24,11 which gives us 4 wins, of which two are payouts from the casino.

HEXAGON shows that, in the money management section pointed out by the arrows from no 4 in the image.The image also shows, on the top, the arrows of no 2 that points on the betting lamp, shining in green,  which here means you should continue to bet.

In this case on the first dozen.HEXAGON also give a forewarning that the Columns are now predicting an anomaly worth betting on. here specifically the third column.

This forewarning is interesting because you see  the following numbers spun are 7,18,16,35,11,29,20.HEXAGON does a wonderful thing here in its early detection and prediction and recommends a bet on the third column which is a loss on 7 but a win on 18.

The question is now, the coming numbers belong to the middle column (no 2 column). Will the system detect that approaching anomaly? Lets see…Analyzing chart 3 shows this

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Sure it does ;) and very fast too!

From the win, on the third column, when number 18 showed up, it took only two losses before it showed an anomaly building up under column 2.

As you see it managed to take in three straight wins there which corresponded to 6 units or 60 euro in three minutes with the current unit sizes.

The system took three losses on the dozen,  but also warned of the zero. Every new zero warning is valid for three spins.I place 10-30% of the D&C unit size. Usually I prefer to set the zero ledger in the system on a 10% side bet on the zero accepting its hedging ability to even out any zerointereference, but this day I chose to stress-test the system by increasing it to a full 30%.In chart 4 we see the following development;

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The system has now reacheda profitability of15 units which is above the firstprofittarget of 12 units (see arrows 2 and 3 in the image).HEXAGON signals that, by having its entire frame shining in green (arrow 1).

As you see from observing the coming numbers and HEXAGON´s continued anomaly predictions, it basically tells us that something is about to happen in the second dozen and the second column. It also notifies me again about the Zero being “around the corner” (the zero lamp shining green).Lets see what happens in chart 5 ?

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well, well…we have one win on no. 16,  followed by 0!

That gives us a nice profit (see the zero ledger in arrow no. 1 which shows 35 units of 3 euro per unit.)We increase the Profit goal to 170 euros in the upper right part of the platform and continue our journey.Continuing to chart 6, we see following final run in this session;

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HEXAGON breaks through this target of 170 euros rather fast, by predicting another zero right on the moneyand alsooffering a nice wining streak on the D&C:s.

The total profit from this session was 19 units a 10 euro per unit from the D:Cs and 57 units a 3 euro per unit on playing/hedging the zero.

Our money management section tells us that this corresponds to 361 euro, or 36,1% return on a bankroll of 1000 euro – all within a session ofonly 44 spins!

Had only the D&Cs produced winnings and no Zero warnings cahsed in, due to lack of zero, our profit would still be approx 15 units, a 10 euro per unit, corresponding to a 15% return, which is very satisfying for one session.

To me,  HEXAGON is a system-beauty,  because I can understand how it works and how it points out to me  what exactly is about to happen, with precise information , the coming 2-3 spins.

Anyone who understands the intricacies of gambling and especially roulette, understands the awesome edge this gives you, as a player,  over the house.

When I look back on all those hundreds, upon hundreds, of various systems I ve developed through the years, this is a child born out of a sort of Darwinian system-evolution...from my first system that was a troglodyte, barely able to take one good step in any direction, compared to this little shining star.If you desire such a system for yourself, I have in my three posts about the making of HEXAGON, basically given you enough information to build one for yourself.

You can do that without having to endure my own countless trial and errors,  on your way to give birth to a similar jewel to enjoy.If you are bright, creative, disciplined and in love with the game, you will succeed.

Thank you for reading this far.

Best regards,

Thomas.

p.s.  The full "cockpit view" of HEXAGON in action, with the nasty carrier USS Celtic in its sights ... here we go. 8)

(https://forum.roulette30.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F3eDGe4Z.jpg&hash=4853c16b16c051392c7d051e8355f715)
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: scepticus on March 19, 2016, 06:00:27 PM

As my username suggests , I am a sceptic. Like kav hints  I think your "Free Video" is luring the unwary to buy "something".
That aside , your system
Needs a 1,000 bankroll ?
Uses a unit of 10 ? (100 units @10 )
Waits for 20 spins before betting ?
Like kav I look forward to your following posts .Everyone in this forum is interest in claims of " The Holy Grail".


You do now where your nickname derives from, don´t you? Being originally of greek birth, but raised in a northern region of Europe, I still "react" to anything of "greek" origin, especially if it has ancient root.

Diogenes Laertius at IX. 73–74, sums up Scepticism for anyone interested in its true definition quite well which puts anything produced by an open, creative mind, in the Sceptic’s unappreciating and limited ballpark. A Sceptic´s approach t things of any given permutation is a fascinating approach to the unlimited possibilities of a Universe, versus a mind of high, yet still limited knowledge/intelligence in comparison,  to say the least.


           "The Sceptics, then, were constantly engaged in overthrowing the dogmas of all schools, but            enuntiated none themselves; and though they would go so far as to bring forward and expound the dogmas of the others, they themselves laid down nothing definitely, not even the laying down of nothing  saying, for instance, “We determine nothing,” since otherwise they would have been betrayed into determining; but we put forward, say they, all the theories for the purpose of indicating our unprecipitate attitude, precisely as we might have done if we had actually assented to them."

When it comes to the bankroll of 1000 Euros contra the unit-size of 10 Euros, yes the system is suffciently played with that 10:1 factor,  in terms of money/betting management. At least in my case.


You could as easily play it with 100 euros with 1 euro units, on a low limits table and work yourself up to a larger bankroll.

Personally,  I find 1000 - 3000 euros  a nice and sufficient bankroll to risk, when I choose to enjoy the game, knowing my return will land in the near ballpark of 30-40% after a days play (which includes 1-3 sessions, depending on the number/pattern appearances during 40-80 spins in each entered session).

If I play more than that, something, what i call (in a coming post) "psychological/enviromenatal" interference  starts to affect the system, increasing the risk of a losing session occuring before the end of the day.


Thomas
It is good that you post your idea/s here but you are obviously unaware that other members have posted
 much the same idea as yours so yours is not TOTALLY unique.
As for your analysis of a " sceptic"it is only your opinion and like many others seek to bolster your view
 by quoting someone who shares your opinion ! And you consider that a sound argument !
Buying  a system is not to be recommended ? Some of us in this forum have been saying that for some time.
 But I also believe that giving away a profitable system for free  is also  not to be recommended so yours
is also  , in my view, suspect .
Psychology plays a part in gambling ? All experienced gamblers know this.
Your system is profitable for you ? Good - and congratulations ! I am always glad when  players say that
they win because it confirms my view that roulette is beatable .
A profit of 34% ? Good for you but my target is 50% a session and have sometimes exceeded 100% bya Hit and Run
strategy and a table betting bank of 100 units -though I take two betting banks -2x 100 = 200 as against your [size=78%]1,000.[/size]
Why should I tell  others EXACTLY what I bet ? Even for free ? But I have given pointers  to my approach but [size=78%] they have been ridiculed by some . Should I care about mindless criticism ? Will my good fortune last ? I don't know[/size]
but my " scepticism" keeps me from thinking that it will so keep my stakes low. Psychology at play ?
Many others also profit from playing roulette so you are not alone in that.Good luck with your system but a little
modesty would not go amiss !
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: kav on March 19, 2016, 11:59:20 PM
Hi Thomas,

Would you mind if I copied your images to this forum, so we do not link to the "pretty girls" site?
Also please try to not use custom formatting (font size etc.) if possible for consistency reasons.
Thank you for your understanding.
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: thomasleor on March 20, 2016, 12:25:02 AM


Sure, go ahead and post the images. I seem to have some trouble with the formattingsystem in your forum. Give me some time and i ll teach myself to post nice, tidy posts, easy to read .

Sorry for the girls btw, but that image uploader was a temporary solution till I could find a better one minus girls LOL
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: ernroo1 on March 20, 2016, 09:34:16 AM
Maybe its just me but I think the silence is due to the complexity of your writing.

Perhaps a condensed version  in laymens terms may get people to bite and then they can read the other complex parts you have shared.

I dont know what we are suppose to do with this? I still dont get if this is software or not, how can we do these calculations in front of a dealer.
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: thomasleor on March 20, 2016, 10:57:01 AM

Maybe its just me but I think the silence is due to the complexity of your writing.

I dont know what we are suppose to do with this? I still dont get if this is software or not, how can we do these calculations in front of a dealer.


"The making of Hexagon" was a post, there to inspire you (and others here) to create something of your own, based on the principles I used in the making of HEXAGON. As such, HEXAGON is, in terms of having a tool at my disposal, a beautiful design, with a good and fast user friendliness and also aplatform  able to be fine tuned with a certain set of parameters, as to detect arising and cessating anomalies when playing the dozens,  including the zero.


This extra tool  gives me a far greater advantage towards the house, than using static models of limited calculation abilities, when finding myself in an enviroment of complex pattern productions.

Unless you are a genious with superior ability to porcess incoming information at the speed of a good computer, any simple thought you might give a "paper and pencil" system at a lanbased casino, will never work on a game of chance, that essentially falls back on the Heisenberg´s  uncertainty principle, that is a result of the chaotic subatomic nature behind this Universe.

The game of roulette is a "fluidic game of sheer uncertainty" and must be seen from such a POV, and from this given law, that can be mathematically proved, one can also discover rising and cessating patterns we deem as anomalies.

HEXAGON was, if you read all my posts on the subject, developed to be used in play in any given Online Casino with Live dealers. Not landbased casinos, as they prohibit entry of any electronic devices, be it a simple calculator to a note book or even visible smartphone.

When you read the posts of certain "veterans" here that propagate cheating against land based casinos, with hidden roulette computers, they basically not telling you that in for example Europe, most casinos are members of


ECA
http://www.europeancasinoassociation.org/ (http://www.europeancasinoassociation.org/) 

that will put you on a black list similar to the one used by Nevada

GCB http://gaming.nv.gov/index.aspx?page=72 (http://gaming.nv.gov/index.aspx?page=72)

but not as revealing as with those funny visible mugshots, used by GCB.

ECA is way more sophisticated informing its members on a daily basis of new cheaters caught in their casinos basically barring them in all Europe the very day the update is cleared by the Casinos internal security department.

Knowing this, I decided to apply HEXAGON as a tool and aid to my mind, whenever I entered a virtual online casino to play the roulette in a milieu that is a representation of something greater, the law of the perfect uncertainty principle permeating this Universe from a sub-atomic level.


Understanding this law is not a requirement as to be able to use HEXAGON. It is enough to understand the "fluidic" nature of Roulette as a "representation of that law.

best regards

Thomas Leor
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: dobbelsteen on March 20, 2016, 11:24:05 AM
The result of my experience and research is, a profit of about 1 % of the total bets is rialistic.
 If you want to win about 200 euros a day, you have to wager about 20000 euros.

For such amounts you need a very good moneymanagement.

This is only possible with a good strategy and negative progression.

There are infinite roulette systems, but none is a Holy Grail
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: thomasleor on March 20, 2016, 11:30:02 AM

The result of my experience and research is, a profit of about 1 % of the total bets is rialistic.
 If you want to win about 200 euros a day, you have to wager about 20000 euros.

For such amounts you need a very good moneymanagement.

This is only possible with a good strategy and negative progression.

There are infinite roulette systems, but none is a Holy Grail


Again good sir, you are wrong.

Dont ask me to explain why, for I have done so in my four posts about the HEXAGON. 
If you cannot understand or accept what is explained in those four posts dont ask me to explain why you are wrong in this one.

Btw. There is no greater Holy Grail than the Mind. Hexagon, serves as a mere tool to my mind. Nothing more.

I suggest you reassess your years of system development and ask yourself, who is the Master? Your systems, or your Mind? And if you believe more in your systems than in your Mind, do they really serve you to your satisfaction on the long run?

You tell me ;)
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: Dane on March 20, 2016, 12:00:34 PM
I  still look forward to see  the system, the whole system and nothing but the system explained  in great details before toooo long. TIME IS MOST IMPORTANT, you see!
We are all trapped in TIME - unless your great Mind transcends time (by the way: I have practiced transcendental meditation for four decades). 

Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: thomasleor on March 20, 2016, 02:56:07 PM
I  still look forward to see  the system, the whole system and nothing but the system

Did you put your hand on the bible when you said that?  ;D

If so, sit down and read my new post where I used HEX yesterday evening on Celtic.
8)
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: Geoffrey on March 20, 2016, 03:30:02 PM
dont wanna offend anyone, but you're taking to much time waisting hours on typing about your hexagon system. Nice if it works for you, but to be honest there's nothing so special about it. If i were you, being a bit more humble wont do anyone any harm

Lets see, you're promoting/ explaining a system wich takes hours of typing, and what we get is a 300 profit with 10 dollar units, with 2 hours of game time?

If i'm not mistaken, thats what this fuss is all about??
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: thomasleor on March 20, 2016, 05:31:00 PM
dont wanna offend anyone, but you're taking to much time waisting hours on typing about your hexagon system. Nice if it works for you, but to be honest there's nothing so special about it. If i were you, being a bit more humble wont do anyone any harm

Lets see, you're promoting/ explaining a system wich takes hours of typing, and what we get is a 300 profit with 10 dollar units, with 2 hours of game time?

If i'm not mistaken, thats what this fuss is all about??

Hahaha...anything you say buddy. I walk away with 25-30% in profit 4 days of 5 from the casino. How is your system doing friend? can u do this ? if so congrats, you got a winning tool at your side.
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: scepticus on March 20, 2016, 05:40:13 PM
dont wanna offend anyone, but you're taking to much time waisting hours on typing about your hexagon system. Nice if it works for you, but to be honest there's nothing so special about it. If i were you, being a bit more humble wont do anyone any harm

Lets see, you're promoting/ explaining a system wich takes hours of typing, and what we get is a 300 profit with 10 dollar units, with 2 hours of game time?

If i'm not mistaken, thats what this fuss is all about??

just did a quick check of his numbers using my "Parlay 2 Dozen strategy.I haven't checked the columns because,
 like Dobbelsteen, I think that the dozens are much superior to columns.
The results are ;
Total bets were 63x2 pts. =126bet
16 -1st -2nd and 3rd - pays 2/1 so not to be recommended.
16- 1st-2nd and 4th =16x9=144 -profit of 18pts.
3 - 1st-3rd and 4th-3x9=27 = loss of 99pts.
24-2nd-3rd and 4th = 24x9=216=profit of 90 pts
4 - Zero  -4x36 =144 =  profit of 81pts.
With a Table Betting bank of 100 pts (50x2) I can make bets 10 times larger than The Hexagon and with  minimal thought.
So Plus 18 now reads 180
and minus 99 now reads minus 990 and
and plus 90 now reads 900 
You pay your money and make your choice but if, as mathematicians keep telling us, everything has an equal chance
in a game of chance then variance determines whether or not we profit.Casinos , too, are ruled by variance !
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: kav on March 20, 2016, 06:08:48 PM
I would like to at least give credit to Thomas for making a detailed presentation of a system.
No matter if we believe this systems wins or not we should give him that IMO.
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: scepticus on March 20, 2016, 06:21:58 PM
I would like to at least give credit to Thomas for making a detailed presentation of a system.
No matter if we believe this systems wins or not we should give him that IMO.

Agreed ,kav. But it is the long-winded way he took to finally get round  to explaining it. His first 3 posts could have been [size=78%]contained in one sentence-" I have tried many systems in my time but I have finally found a most profitable system."[/size]
I am sincere when I say I hope he regularly makes a profit.It demonstrates that roulette can be profitable no matter what our critics say - they deal in hypotheses while we deal in  reality !
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: scepticus on March 20, 2016, 10:51:28 PM
dont wanna offend anyone, but you're taking to much time waisting hours on typing about your hexagon system. Nice if it works for you, but to be honest there's nothing so special about it. If i were you, being a bit more humble wont do anyone any harm

Lets see, you're promoting/ explaining a system wich takes hours of typing, and what we get is a 300 profit with 10 dollar units, with 2 hours of game time?

If i'm not mistaken, thats what this fuss is all about??

Hahaha...anything you say buddy. I walk away with 25-30% in profit 4 days of 5 from the casino. How is your system doing friend? can u do this ? if so congrats, you got a winning tool at your side.

The method I actually use with a table betting bank of 100 pts. would have won 40 pts. in less than 20 SPINS .
I don't claim that it is better  than anyone else's- only that it does actually make a profit and that I am still waiting for the elusive Long Run to take my bankroll and my accumulated profits .
p.s.
this is the same one as I previously said needed only an 80 point bank . I got spooked at one point when I was down to my last bet with 80 pts. so chose to up it to 100pts. I like to feel comfortable when betting . Human failings at play ?
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: Dane on March 21, 2016, 07:46:54 AM
I  still look forward to see  the system, the whole system and nothing but the system

Did you put your hand on the bible when you said that?  ;D

If so, sit down and read my new post where I used HEX yesterday evening on Celtic.
8)

No, I put my hand on "Gamblers Hymn" in the ancient  Indian scripture of Rig Veda, 10th Mandala.
Seek and you shall find!
 
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: dobbelsteen on March 21, 2016, 11:10:36 AM
ThomasleorYhe images looks very well but I have no idea what you are betting.
Hexagon is a software program that create beautiful images. The basic of a system is i on which chance do you wager 2 which isnals do you use to bet and 3what is the betting schedule.
I like to see the results as diagrams.
I challenge you to refute my state that every system has  profit and loss periodes in a short run session.
I look forward to your results of a 500 spins sample of the dozensystem
 
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: Geoffrey on March 21, 2016, 11:24:29 AM
you'll be waiting for a long time dobblesteen. The system seems to be working nicely, but everyone knows there aint such thing as a bullet proof system.

I do respect thomas for his effort and i dont blame him for believing in his system. But trusting on in blindfully will 'kill' him sooner or later.

and also there are some posts that are contradicting earlier statements so.

Oh and nice to see someone in my native language, tho i'm belgian :D
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: dobbelsteen on March 21, 2016, 11:38:05 AM
Geoffrey op roulette.nl schrijf ik een wekelijkse column over roulette.  de site is erg commercieel maar mijn artikelen worden heel veel gelezen.
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: Geoffrey on March 21, 2016, 01:17:50 PM
bedankt voor de info, zal ik later vandaag eens doorlezen, en ook eens tijd nemen om je blog hier door te lezen.
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: asiawatcher on March 27, 2016, 08:19:08 PM
hexagon scam busted see https://forum.roulette30.com/index.php?topic=793.0 (https://forum.roulette30.com/index.php?topic=793.0)
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: asiawatcher on March 27, 2016, 08:22:59 PM
hexagon scam busted see https://forum.roulette30.com/index.php?topic=793.0 (https://forum.roulette30.com/index.php?topic=793.0)
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: asiawatcher on March 27, 2016, 08:28:39 PM
hexagon scam busted see https://forum.roulette30.com/index.php?topic=793.0
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: asiawatcher on March 27, 2016, 08:28:49 PM
hexagon scam busted see https://forum.roulette30.com/index.php?topic=793.0
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: Real on March 27, 2016, 08:31:55 PM
Pretending to have a winning system and selling it is fraud.  People are arrested and sent to jail for such scams.
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: thomasleor on March 27, 2016, 09:35:40 PM
Pretending to have a winning system and selling it is fraud.  People are arrested and sent to jail for such scams.

accusing people for being scammers without proper evidence is mere slander and is not only illegal in the states but also Europe. You claim to possess certain intellectual integirty on this board, yet you judge ppl on basis of cheap information and facts that are not correlated to the person you accuse.

I can understand that KAV allows you get away with this bullying of newcomers because you are considered an old member of this board. In real life though you are nothing more than a cheap gossip spreader, putting it on really thick just for the pleasure of trashing innocent ppl you just dont like.

This points to a certain degree of self-loathing in you. Who knows what you done to become such a vile person?

Oh, dont tell me. To be honest who cares?

Thomas
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: Jake007 on April 13, 2016, 03:10:05 AM
hexagon scam busted see https://forum.roulette30.com/index.php?topic=793.0 (https://forum.roulette30.com/index.php?topic=793.0)

Asiawatcher... if Thomas is attempting to sell his stuff to you, just post screenshots of your conversations with him.

Anyways, Thomas, I'm interested in reading more about your system. Whats new with it?
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: thomasleor on April 13, 2016, 07:23:02 AM
hexagon scam busted see https://forum.roulette30.com/index.php?topic=793.0 (https://forum.roulette30.com/index.php?topic=793.0)

Asiawatcher... if Thomas is attempting to sell his stuff to you, just post screenshots of your conversations with him.

Anyways, Thomas, I'm interested in reading more about your system. Whats new with it?

Asianwatcher is (was?) a troll who was denied a free copy of Hexagon from me,  because I found him to be a bit off his rockers. Consequently he had a meltdown and accused me for a variety of things (with the good permission of the owner of this  forum),  including trying to "sell" my mapping/tracking platform, I called Hexagon, to him. He even photoshopped  some PMs to show ppl here I had tried to sell him the platform for 300 usd something. Some members though didnt buy it as the language used in that PM, was more like his own he used on this forum, than mine.

It was an amusing accusation, considering I had mentioned in the post named "The making of Hexagon
"anyone trying to sell you a system has forfeited its trustworthiness" LOL.

In any case, I have found a couple of good testpilots that have a copy of it as to play against online casinos and evaluate the design, functionality and of course point out bugs (if any).

You can find videos about Hexagon here (used in a live session against Celtic Casino Online);

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=105tvPJG6OY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=105tvPJG6OY)  (there are of course other more instructional vids)
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON
Post by: ernroo1 on April 13, 2016, 12:29:34 PM
Yes seems like an Asian watcher was a troll and it seems like you are not the scammer mentioned in the news articles. There has been a recent update and the con man was caught.

So have any veterans watch Thomas videos? Has anyone tried the software?

Will Thomas explain it in more detail? (his choice)

All I see is hot air and people saying it cant work etc.

Who has the balls to give it a fair chance?
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON
Post by: Geoffrey on April 13, 2016, 12:33:25 PM
it has nothing to do with having balls or not  ;D
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON (part 1)
Post by: Jake007 on April 13, 2016, 04:44:00 PM
Thanks for the video link Thomas. Does your Excel program use macros?
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON
Post by: Jake007 on April 13, 2016, 07:53:24 PM
I have watched some of and clicked through the video Thomas has posted. Without spending a lot of time it appears his excel calculates probable bets of dozens & columns as well as particular numbers. As well as a betting progression he developed that works with his system. The secret sauce is in his programming.

Showing a one hour event is nice and Thomas is up 20%... however we have all done this with our various systems and we could all post similar videos of positive sessions. The key is performing day in and day out over the long term. For example, I could have showed a 100% increase in 10 minutes yesterday if I had recorded it.

What has drawn everyone into this is the story, photos and video behind his system. Without going into detail... I used to sell a peculiar item on Ebay. I would buy the item on ebay for $20-$30, and then I would resell it with an incredible story attached to it which would draw in 40 or 50 bids pushing the price up to $300 in some cases. Had I just resold the item as is with no story I would not have received much more for it than what I paid. It became quite lucrative... until I got married and had no time for creating the stories. In many ways I was a showman, a clever writer of non fiction and an excellent salesman. So I applaud Thomas in that regard. He drew people in to his system and got people talking about it.

While not anything near what Thomas has developed, there is a nice free app on Android called the "Smart Roulette Tracker" where you can input your spins and it shows much of the same statistical data. Dozens, Columns, Outside Bets, Streets, etc. In fact his excel design looks extremely similar.
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON
Post by: BioBrick on May 19, 2017, 09:23:07 AM
:D :D :D

Funniest thread on this forum.
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON
Post by: thomasleor on May 19, 2017, 09:35:46 AM
It sure is  ;D

Hexagon is an old relic compared to what I use today. Yet, at the time of its development it taught me many things. What a good platform needs, and above all, doesn´t need at all in a Live Real Money game.
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON
Post by: Herby on June 16, 2017, 03:41:04 PM
Hi thomasleor,

The equation for the superposition of 2 wave functions in your video:
1 hour Live session with HEXAGON ZERO on Celtic Casino 20160

shown at time stamp: 7:42

is mathematically incorrect.

Have a nice day
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON
Post by: thomasleor on June 16, 2017, 04:59:11 PM
Hi thomasleor,

The equation for the superposition of 2 wave functions in your video:
1 hour Live session with HEXAGON ZERO on Celtic Casino 20160

shown at time stamp: 7:42

is mathematically incorrect.

Have a nice day

Yes, I know.

Yet, Oh man am I grateful to you for reminding of that. Just when your post arrived at my email box I was contemplating Superposition of waves. Reading your post, and rechecking that old video it made me think of what happens when two waves have opposite phase (psi=180). They can interfere destructively and cancel each other out :)  It just solved a huge puzzle in my number frequency and harmonics research.

When I applied it into a recent spin list, a coherent pattern of interfering frequencies canceling each other out instantly appeared thus reaching a Zero energy state in the wheel. Some numbers off with just 2 slots deviation (due to a strange attractor interference probably).

Still...I have to implement more tests to verify the theory: I am still happy as a clam. :) You are a god send..Many,many thanx man,. Really mean it.. ;)
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON
Post by: Herby on June 16, 2017, 07:30:46 PM
a huge puzzle in my number frequency and harmonics research.

So you make the FFT in Excel.
Just found out that this is possible. I do my calculations mostly with Mathematica.

Maybe I can learn more: whats the secret with the factor 8 in your frequencies ?  :)
Title: Re: The making of HEXAGON
Post by: LiveRouletteOnlinePlayer on November 26, 2017, 10:08:57 PM
thomasleor can your Greyhound GWX and other Exel sheets applications handle auto wheels or are they only mainly only Live Dealer Roulettes landbased casinos not live dealer roulettes from some studio made of and playing only roulette wheels where there is no RRS random rotor system.
What are the access requirements that can be accessed by your group and use your Exel sheet applications for either real money gaming or testing it collected spins or fun money games?