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Title: What have you learned?
Post by: mr j on September 09, 2017, 01:56:15 AM
This is a great question. Not asking regarding any type of a method you play, I dont care.

Over your years of playing/studying this game, what have you LEARNED?

Ken
Title: Re: What have you learned?
Post by: Scarface on September 09, 2017, 02:26:35 AM
Probably the most important thing I learned is stop chasing cold numbers that are "due" to hit.  It's better to wait till they hit, then start playing
Title: Re: What have you learned?
Post by: scepticus on September 09, 2017, 02:40:11 AM

O.M.G  !
don't let kav hear  you say that  !
Title: Re: What have you learned?
Post by: Reyth on September 09, 2017, 04:15:05 AM
I learned the very hard lesson that we cannot "trick" roulette and somehow change what it is to our own wishes; the key with roulette is to deal with how it actually is -- the reality of what is actually going on in the present, not what we wish should be going on or wish roulette to be.

Furthermore, I learned that roulette is far more powerful than any system that we can design and unless we respect that with everything that we do, we WILL get crushed.

If we are going to violate the above two statements in our play, we might as well take our entire bankroll and put it on 17 Black for a single spin and just walk out (32 Red is ok).
Title: Re: What have you learned?
Post by: kav on September 09, 2017, 07:39:28 AM
MrJ,
Great question with some important replies already.

I learned that little parameters, like stop loss criteria, win target, total bankroll or initial stakes value (if your initial stake is $1 or $10) can have tremendous positive or negative impact on the bottom line of your play.

Take any system, change some of these parameters and you can see great differences. The progression is not everything.

I believe that someone with very wise big-picture-bankroll-management can do much better that someone with a "better system" but sloppy bankroll management.
Title: Re: What have you learned?
Post by: Trilobite on September 09, 2017, 11:13:50 AM
I've learned that if you play roulette with systems or methods then anything at all is possible, and if you find yourself winning then a large part of that will be due to good luck.
Title: Re: What have you learned?
Post by: McCoy on September 09, 2017, 01:36:43 PM
I'm new to roulette but what I've learned in my years betting on sports applies equally well to it. 1) Never chase losses, especially not with increasing stakes. 2) Bet selections should have a logical reason why they win, and be based on careful scrutiny and analysis of relevant data.
Title: Re: What have you learned?
Post by: Frequency on September 09, 2017, 02:50:02 PM
Have learned nothing at all.
Title: Re: What have you learned?
Post by: scepticus on September 09, 2017, 04:31:35 PM

1 ) That too many Bettors don’t think deeply enough about The Game.
2 ) You should not  bet your money on a Game if  you don’t fully understand it.
3 ) Too many members of forums think that “ they know it all “  and want to “ educate “ us .
4) You should only place a bet if you think it has a reasonable chance  of  success based on the criteria you use.
5 ) NO bet has a 100% chance of winning . EVER !
6 ) Bankroll Management.
Never stake more  than 5% of your Bankroll on any ONE bet. Losing streaks do happen .It is the nature of the Game.
7) Statistics are  just Raw Data and need to be interpreted and it is the interpretation of them that needs to be questioned. Statistics should be used to support your decision and not supply it.
8 ) Most Bettors lose so the general consensus  must be questioned but  with the intention of keeping  the good bits and ditching the bad.
9) Once you have made up your mind- DON’T change it.
10 ) Discipline . Which I have yet to master.
11 )  I have no need to  use software.
And )
Etc. Etc.

Title: Re: What have you learned?
Post by: Jack444 on September 18, 2017, 09:55:22 PM
How many useful tips here! Thanks for sharing your experience, guys!
Title: Re: What have you learned?
Post by: MickyP on January 24, 2018, 07:16:09 PM
 Kav is right on the money in his reply.

When I kicked off playing roulette my focus was on systems. I was constantly inventing new ways to play the game but always focused on systems. I then looked at the other aspects of the game and things started falling into place. With limited understanding I created and challenged what I had created and so my understanding grew. I found systems on the net and challenged them too.

I have learnt that systems or methods of play are tools for money management. Control over the flow of money or chips if you please is paramount to success.
Title: Re: What have you learned?
Post by: heatmap on February 05, 2018, 01:17:18 AM
i have learned that, if i had enough money and time, i could trick the wheel into spitting out money. ive seen so many people around me make so much money that i know the wheels where i live contain every security feature, covering every variable that is possible to be exploited by a human being for profit. the wheels will actively let a person who is or has been betting big on other numbers win if i walk up to a table. i know the layouts of the wheels like the back of my hand. i know that i have seen an ultrasonic sound signal being detected on several different wheels at different times. the s*** is rigged yall.
Title: Re: What have you learned?
Post by: palestis on February 05, 2018, 03:14:07 AM
                     My early roulette days were nothing more than carefully observing players play.
And soon enough I realized that the game was nothing more than win/lose cycles.
I saw people winning at the beginning, and neglecting to leave, I saw them lose it all at the end.
Also players losing a the beginning, and winning at the end, but again failing to stop they lost it all at the end. And a few other situations in between. 
But what stuck on my mind, was that the entire session was divided into win and loss cycles.
Sometimes more winning cycles, sometimes (more often) more losing cycles.
And that gave me an idea, which to this day I religiously uphold.
The entire session is divided into sub-sessions, which have a target goal of one hit within a series of bets.
My focus is on those sub-sessions, because they make up the end result of an entire session.
And I know that financially each of these mini sessions will be the net result of all the win/loss cycles within the mini session.
Therefore,  knowing that in a series of bets some will be losing until I have at least one profitable hit (and that's where I stop the mini session), I chose the get the losing bets out of the way AT THE BEGINNING  with the minimum possible bet like 1 penny (enter "virtual loss"- bet with your mind but not with your money).
If the losses do not come at the beginning I'll wait till they happen at the beginning.
Once that happens, it is naturally obvious that more winning spins are to come to complete the series.  ( And being not greedy, all I am looking for is one hit- not too much to ask).
What system is at play is not that important. You only have to determine how many series of bets each system requires to get at  least one hit. ( the result of long term testing).
     To summarize I see the game as a mix of  PERSONAL win/lose situations.
I purposely chose to have the lose situations ( losing cycles) happen only at the beginning without cost whatsoever, then bet the remaining cycles with actual money or stop when there is a hit.
To this day, this way of seeing roulette has not let me down and I am glad I see it this way.

Title: Re: What have you learned?
Post by: TheGenner on February 05, 2018, 08:02:57 PM
To each their own, but I have had sessions where I am winning 80% of my bets right from the start. So if I waited for the losses, I could be letting a lot of wins go by. This idea of micro-managing your sessions sounds like a good idea, however I don't think based on my own experiences that it offers any real advantages.
Title: Re: What have you learned?
Post by: palestis on February 05, 2018, 09:40:44 PM
Sure,  you may find that in today's session all your bets are right on target from the beginning.
Do you really think that this will be happening everyday? If that's the case thousands of players would be winning every day. But we know that's not the case. In fact the opposite is true.
If someone plays occasionally or for adrenaline or fun, then starting the bets right away may be suitable for him. Especially if good luck is on his side.
But for someone who plays roulette professionally for a living, selective betting is a must. Patience is  a virtue if you know how to use it to your advantage.
Title: Re: What have you learned?
Post by: MrPerfect. on February 05, 2018, 10:21:55 PM
Palestice,  if all your posts gonna be like that, l will start to like reading them.
Title: Re: What have you learned?
Post by: palestis on February 06, 2018, 12:59:24 AM
what part do you like? I always advocated to never play a system without prequalifying the circumstances.
Title: Re: What have you learned?
Post by: MrPerfect. on February 06, 2018, 03:45:26 AM
I liked reasonability .
Title: Re: What have you learned?
Post by: The Bedsit Botter on February 22, 2018, 09:09:29 PM
I have learnt that Baccarat is a better game to play because of the lower house edge.

Title: Re: What have you learned?
Post by: double zero on March 19, 2018, 02:41:19 AM
palestis,

when you say get losing bets out of the way  first do you mean don't any  make bets for multiple spins?
Title: Re: What have you learned?
Post by: petespin on March 19, 2018, 07:15:43 AM
In gambling generally u have to be pattient ,chance will aplear sonner or later , when it comes grab it .
Title: Re: What have you learned?
Post by: Fyodor on March 19, 2018, 07:31:17 AM
I have learned to stay away from those ladies that frequent Casinos worldwide.
I mean, you may walk in with Lady Luck holding your money firmly in her protective hand, but Lowan Black and her sister with the skinny legs Evelyn, are always going to try to get your attention.
Over in the corner the two party girls, Kay Oss and May Hemme are arguing over Marx and Spenser, and you can hardly hear the Croupier, Ann Ounnce calling out to stop Ann Argument, with "No more Betsy!"
Hope Springs, and her best friend, Blind Faith are being frisked for hidden meanings, by the security guardess, Pat Downes.
You may believe Hellen Highwater, who will promise you Prudence and Patience as playing partners, but they went back to where Charity Beginz, at home!
And, whatever else you do, DON'T HAIL MARY on your way out the door!