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MrPerfect.

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Re: The Talos debate
« Reply #135 on: June 14, 2018, 01:31:06 AM »
You just risked 13 units to win one. It's not an example. Dozen can sleep for long time , maximum l sou was around 50!!! Running any variation of martingale with out advantage it's just loss of the time and money. You got problems with understanding of ratios as well... ratio is average .

   
 

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Re: The Talos debate
« Reply #136 on: June 14, 2018, 07:38:55 AM »
The reason for the recent discussion is simply another way to try and understand the thinking and approach of DrTalos. Why not be more direct and ask the question you actually want to ask?
DrTalos has given more than enough information regarding his Bertrand. Failure to understand is a result in what you would consider your own rational thinking or as I would put it, the limitation of your ability to think differently.
People are glued on the fact that the mathematicians have proved that a system will eventually fail but the same does not apply for a strategy. DrTalos plays using a low impact strategy. Low impact meaning a small bankroll is expanded to safely play with a 1:60 ratio and even if the wins are small they are still wins. The 1:60 can be seen as overcoming the run from hell that breaks many other methods.

 

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Re: The Talos debate
« Reply #137 on: June 14, 2018, 08:03:37 AM »
You just risked 13 units to win one. It's not an example. Dozen can sleep for long time  .   
Matter is not how much he bet to win 1. Main sadness of all such progressions is that they force bet less - when player wining and more when player loosing.

That is very unlogical thing. Natural will be to bet as much as possible, when you have wining stream and bet as small as possible - best  - at all not bet, when you have loosing stream.

Main in roulette is where and when ball stopped. Good players  before play collect data. Why they that do ?  Reason is very simply - have ability to compare.

When player  have data and he lost spin - he can compare - if he lost , because he predicted wrong , or spin was some very not natural - such which is maybe 1 time in 50 spins and to which we not must pay attenttion. When player see, that he started miss in "normal spins " - that means for example , that he tired and wrong select in stuations, when he must select good. If he miss, but spins are others, than in that big data from several last days - means , that his  playing model is wrong - something changed - he must keep bets as small as possible.

So are three types of misses - such in which player himself do mistake, random spins, which maybe will repeat after 100 spins only and when spins itself become others.
In all other variants we must hit  and increase bets till as much as possible ....

Such behave is only way to stable winnings...
 

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Re: The Talos debate
« Reply #138 on: June 14, 2018, 09:43:25 AM »
@Mickey,  there is no difference between black/red martingale and what talos shows here. It's simply not interesting. 
 

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Re: The Talos debate
« Reply #139 on: June 14, 2018, 10:24:52 AM »
I just see the topic and whole arguments. It's very simple to solve the problem about Dr. Talos.

Talos should share some photo of his house and car  :D

That would be fair and genuine solution.

 

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Re: The Talos debate
« Reply #140 on: June 14, 2018, 10:42:09 AM »
He discussed one meeting with Reyth, to show how Talos plays, but since then Reyth is just disappeared. Its start to be strange.
 

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Re: The Talos debate
« Reply #141 on: June 14, 2018, 10:55:43 AM »
Optimistique, I already took enough risks in this forum, I do not wish to compromise the safety of my family. For what it can counts, I tell you I have a Prius Hybrid (waiting for the delivery of my Tesla) because I am kind of an ecological guy, and I have a little nice single family home, with two bedroom and a huge backyard, in a small village with excellent schools for my daughter. I do have a big studio with something like 5000 books.
  I do not have a mansion, or a Ferrari. I win enough to be confortable with, and I do not need more. I do other things other than sitting in front of a rotating ball. Not a greedy person, never be and never will.

 

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Re: The Talos debate
« Reply #142 on: June 14, 2018, 11:06:04 AM »
Hi Drtalos, have you met up with reyth yet?
 

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Re: The Talos debate
« Reply #143 on: June 14, 2018, 11:08:38 AM »
He discussed one meeting with Reyth, to show how Talos plays, but since then Reyth is just disappeared. Its start to be strange.
I can sugest soluttion - I have good webcamera which can translate quite nice picture 60fr/sec. That is through skype is better than   translattion through online casino.
So all is super simple  - I work as dealer - other  see picture and talk predictions , i even maybe can do direct streaming to youtube and can look also others. After, acordingly predicttions, i can calculate real players edge by method which i use for himself...
So if are wish - I can help...
 

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Re: The Talos debate
« Reply #144 on: June 14, 2018, 11:51:39 AM »
Optimistique, I already took enough risks in this forum, I do not wish to compromise the safety of my family. For what it can counts, I tell you I have a Prius Hybrid (waiting for the delivery of my Tesla) because I am kind of an ecological guy, and I have a little nice single family home, with two bedroom and a huge backyard, in a small village with excellent schools for my daughter. I do have a big studio with something like 5000 books.
  I do not have a mansion, or a Ferrari. I win enough to be confortable with, and I do not need more. I do other things other than sitting in front of a rotating ball. Not a greedy person, never be and never will.

Good for you Dr. Talos,

I'm just kidding to soften the environment of topic. I respect any person to decide as you but you should also understand Kav's point of view.

For instance, i'm from Istanbul and sometimes go to Cyprus to play Roullete and i like to try new systems when i play at there so people just curious about new systems some of them already do not need any item such Roulette to reach wealth.

All the best,
Optimistique
 

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Re: The Talos debate
« Reply #145 on: June 14, 2018, 12:12:19 PM »
I am quite open to talk about roulette, or systems (in general). I love to discuss ideas and approaches, compare way of attack the game and to solve problems related to it.
  What I will not reveal is my Bertrand, for obvious reasons, and what I don't like is to be called a liar or a scammer.
  People here are more interested to affirm their position and their thinking instead of learning new ones, and it is kinda sad. One of the tweaks that made my system as is today, come to me reading the parachute system posted here, and even if my tweaks is not strictly related to that idea, is that thread I am grateful to. I am always open to learn, even if you can consider me a winner of some sort.
  People are entitled to their opinion, 100%. Unfortunately I do not see any good outcome that can come out after affirmingI am a liar or my Bertrand do not exists. I understand Real's, MrPerfect, Kav and other's position, but those position brings nothing to the duscussion.
  I love constructive question, like How can this be done, how that... but they already knows all the answers, and they are very careful to not walk ways that could contradict their believes,

About the meeting, I already said will be late summer/early fall. I am busy till then.
About the apparent disappearing of Kav and Reyth, Seems to me there's a plan behind it. Maybe they just wanna see how an uncontrolled forum will move, or if the weeds will disappear for lack of attention. If they think that trolls will leave the shore of this place because of its slow dying, they are wrong. Remember the story of the frog and the scorpion.

 

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Re: The Talos debate
« Reply #146 on: June 14, 2018, 12:37:35 PM »
hi drtalos, regarding the meeting with reyth, will it just be a session whereby he will observe you from a distance to ensure you do not cheat by inserting money into the machine during the game?
 

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Re: The Talos debate
« Reply #147 on: June 14, 2018, 01:39:24 PM »
"Kav and Reyth, Seems to me there's a plan behind it. Maybe they just wanna see how an uncontrolled forum will move, or if the weeds will disappear for lack of attention" >> Geez, I came up with that weeks ago.

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Re: The Talos debate
« Reply #148 on: June 14, 2018, 01:56:16 PM »
 "People here are more interested to affirm their position and their thinking instead of learning new ones, and it is kinda sad" >> I have stated this many times and I admit, I am in the group......RIGHT or wrong.
Most people will never switch over to a different style of method. Me, I did make the SWITCH from MANY numbers to only a few. Its RARE that bettors start off betting 3 numbers, are NOW only interested in betting 12 or 24. Most want to stay in their "comfort zone." Good or bad, thats the deal.

Ken
 

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Re: The Talos debate
« Reply #149 on: June 14, 2018, 05:51:48 PM »
Player shouldnt decide this things..  like, how many numbers to bet. It's wheels/ ball's business to dictate.  Player just obey and follow. If he is a player, of cause. 
   In fact,  most of the time player has one decision only: continue or stop... rest of things is to select from available,  not to decide. Real player has one freedom only - to do his work properly in following wheel , ball , conditons, playing model ..ets.
   No point to force personal decision on reality, reality is harsh, it fights back very well.