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Roulette systems don't work
« on: June 17, 2016, 01:45:12 AM »
Attempting to beat the random game of roulette by designing systems based on the layout is as absurd as trying to break into a computer by smashing the monitor.
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Re: Roulette systems don't work
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2016, 01:57:06 AM »
Attempting to beat the random game of roulette by designing systems based on the layout is as absurd as trying to break into a computer by smashing the monitor.
Real,
Of your 950 posts, the 900 are the same post with different wordings: "roulette systems don't work". So every new post with the same content you make will be posted here and move this topic to the top. Eventually we will have a mega-thread with hundreds of posts with the same message.

I'm sorry that this forum is (also) about roulette systems.
I'm sure that in the other "advantage play" forums you participate, you share the real methods to become rich by "playing the wheel". I am very happy for your success and I really wonder why not everyone follows your overly successful methods.
« Last Edit: June 17, 2016, 02:01:08 AM by kav »
 
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Re: Roulette systems don't work
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2016, 02:05:24 AM »
True Real..... but I'm just trying to find a few of the better methods to keep me afloat as I get better at this. AP may very well be the best way to go....  I guess I'm going through the roulette school of hard knocks 101 (LOL) until I learn more.
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Re: Roulette systems don't work
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2016, 02:09:52 AM »
People have a right to their opinions and this forum is about that too.
 

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Re: Roulette systems don't work
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2016, 04:46:31 AM »
They can not work in the sense of get over the house advantages.  That's do not mean they are not useful. I can agree with some are voodoo.  The same goes for other methods, like statistic, there is very little useful information when it comes to know which to bet (know about it is useful). Even claims from AP iare often just they had luck an evening using the ap-methods, and unlucky days blames the wheel ("as some are easier and other"). It is a game of chance, without cheating we can never sure win. The random in the game can make some players win and even win for long and much.

It is clever designed  1.3 to 2.7% HA, makes enough winners, so the casinos can stay in business.

The reason I play on line is I can get near zero house advantages and many chips for an Euro. I use methods, the reason is I can estimate which should happen for winning and losing, they do not predict.

There is some skill in the game, but not as know which number is next or some a head.
 

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Re: Roulette systems don't work
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2016, 07:11:31 AM »
Real,
Of your 950 posts, the 900 are the same post with different wordings: "roulette systems don't work". So every new post with the same content you make will be posted here and move this topic to the top. Eventually we will have a mega-thread with hundreds of posts with the same message.

Perhaps the explanation is that Real isn't really real, but a bot. An AP bot.

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designing systems based on the layout

If the wheel is unbiased,  systems based on the wheel are no better than systems based on the layout.

Yes, mathematically roulette is unbeatable, but maths doesn't play roulette, people do. What Real does has nothing to do with roulette, it's about looking for broken wheels. And he totally ignores the reasons why people play the game, some of which might be:
  • It's just fun.
  • The challenge of attempting the "impossible".
  • To learn about randomness, probability, statistics, and risk.
  • To learn self-discipline and how to master their impulses and emotions.
  • Because creating roulette systems is an exercise in creativity.
Since when has the only criteria for success in anything been making money?
« Last Edit: June 17, 2016, 07:21:11 AM by Bayes »
 
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Re: Roulette systems don't work
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2016, 08:25:40 AM »
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And he totally ignores the reasons why people play the game, some of which might be:
•It's just fun.
•The challenge of attempting the "impossible".
•To learn about randomness, probability, statistics, and risk.
•To learn self-discipline and how to master their impulses and emotions.
•Because creating roulette systems is an exercise in creativity.

Spot on Bayes... Espically the part about self-discipline :-) Through the years of playing I've become much more aware of my emotions during play and it is keeping me from following a bad streak and just leave the table instead.
 

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Re: Roulette systems don't work
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2016, 08:32:56 AM »
Yes, mathematically roulette is unbeatable, but maths doesn't play roulette, people do. What Real does has nothing to do with roulette, it's about looking for broken wheels. And he totally ignores the reasons why people play the game, some of which might be:
  • It's just fun.
  • The challenge of attempting the "impossible".
  • To learn about randomness, probability, statistics, and risk.
  • To learn self-discipline and how to master their impulses and emotions.
  • Because creating roulette systems is an exercise in creativity.
Since when has the only criteria for success in anything been making money?

Could not have said it better myself!
 

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Re: Roulette systems don't work
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2016, 02:32:04 AM »
Awww!

The General is so cute

He has to pound his chest on ALLLL FORUMS

Poor soul

I guess looking for biased wheels has a lot of down time. Enough down time where you actually care that people create and play systems

A bit pathetic. Man you really are dedicated.

Mod Note:  Sorry, personal attacks are not allowed in this forum
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Re: Roulette systems don't work
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2016, 04:41:48 AM »
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Since when has the only criteria for success in anything been making money?

It's kind of funny to imply that most of the people here aren't interested in making money.  :)

If that was the case, there wouldn't be so many nested hucksters and system scammers here.  They're often trying to sell their systems since they can't make any money playing.  But Bayes, I think that you are the exception ;)  I realize that you're not trying to make any money, whatsoever, while playing the game. 
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@RouletteGhost,

Ignorance isn't a virtue. 
Also, don't get so worked up by taking these forums too seriously.  All is well. :)
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Re: Roulette systems don't work
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2016, 05:19:22 AM »
http://lifesorted.ca/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/denial-300x241.jpg I agree with Real regarding this subject, 100%
 
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Re: Roulette systems don't work
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2016, 06:19:43 AM »
I I am very happy for your success and I really wonder why not everyone follows your overly successful methods.
Kav, I can answer to your questtion. Advantative methods of play needs not only reading half page of instructions what bet after previous bet, but they need many trainings. Maybe even year or more. Not every can allow that and even if can, then not means that he can learn all that.
User of AP is like some champion in some sport - say bowling. Not every can become champion and not every can reach such level, which allow overcome house edge.

So AP way is very hard and needs much job, but player at least have chance to be winner,  if to look to systems - here player not have even that chance.... 

It's kind of funny to imply that most of the people here aren't interested in making money.  :)
Yes, they not interested in making money on roulette - that i understand  many time before, but they are interested in talking about roulette and dreaming about some easy wins, no matter that all that is not realistic....
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Re: Roulette systems don't work
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2016, 08:17:54 AM »
All systems doesnot work ON THE LONG RUN. Everal system can make a profit on the short run. The main problem is , the player doesnot stop after his profit. Hit and run is his problem. An AP player has the same chance. Most visitors of forums are looking for a cheap HG
Roulette is a game and everybody can learn it, but there are a very few who can make a licing or roulette.
 

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Re: Roulette systems don't work
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2016, 08:31:44 AM »
Bebe,
Mainly we agree.

I think the main point of disagreement are the reasons why AP is so rare a method. You may say its because people do not get it, or I may say it is because it is practically almost impossible. But the reasons are not the important issue actually.
We can both agree that: because (.... put your own reason here ....) , AP is not relevant to most of us.
Then I find it completely counterproductive to disrupt every system discussion, telling people that they are stupid and only AP works.

To give you an example:
It is like going to a weightlifting forum and say again and again "Hey! you are losing your time. The world record is 250Kg and you can't reach it"
Now we can disagree if the reason you can't beat it is lack of skill, training or doping, but we can both agree the comment is irrelevant.

That's why such comments from now on will be moved to this topic.
 
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Re: Roulette systems don't work
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2016, 08:50:43 AM »
It's kind of funny to imply that most of the people here aren't interested in making money.  :)

That's not what I said, as you well know. I said it's not the *only* criteria. I think many system players are aware that what they're doing is mathematically impossible, but still try, for the reasons I gave above.

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I agree with Real regarding this subject, 100%

So Ken, you've gone over to the "dark side" now?

Systems don't work?  :)