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petespin

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bying roulette systems , does it helps ?
« on: May 31, 2016, 12:10:12 AM »
u know i have a friend that he told me spend 6,000e byuing roulette systems and as u suspected all these systems are rubish , what do u think about that ? do u think that are there really good systems that worth to spend money to buiy them ? imo the really good stuff u can find it for free or atleast u must have the intution to distinguish what its worth and what not , by the way i ll send him a system that is rather slow but it works so far , and he thanked me told me that feeling unlucky that he didnt know me when spent all these money for nothing.


 

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« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2016, 05:46:13 AM »
Wow . . . shelling out EURO 6,000 on gambling systems, everyone of which will be as worthless as the last. He's clearly chasing something (apart from his losses) and possibly that's a dream of finding "the one" that'll change his fortunes. He's chasing the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

I'd suggest two possibly courses for him:

(a) seeking some professional help for his behaviour (you don't say how much he's lost actually gambling).

and/or

(b) spending some time studying the underlying maths of roulette, the laws of probability etc so he understands why none of the systems he's parted company with his money for  lived up to their promises.

I'm afraid I disagree with you around some systems are worth paying money for - they're not, as ultimately like the ancient roads that all led to Rome, all roulette play (whether system based or not) ultimately leads to losses of 2.7% of money wagered, plus or minus three standard deviations. That is the simple truth.

 

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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2016, 07:53:52 AM »
Depends on the reason/expectation you buy the system/equipment/method/bot etc.
If you buy it as a means to become rich on the autopilot, in my opinion you are stupid and the seller who makes such promises is a crook.
But you can buy it as a means of learning or as a toy/hobby or just out of curiosity or for whatever other reason. And this is ok.
People spend much more than $6K on football player cards or spend millions on stupid works of art. Who is to say where one should spent his money on?

Does it help?
Yes, I believe that if you learn a well thought out system by a good roulette player it can help you. Maybe not necessarily or directly to make money, but it may open your mind or trigger your own creative/strategic thinking.

Can a book make someone a good doctor? No, but one becomes a doctor mainly by reading books.

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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2016, 09:13:03 AM »
Completely stupid whichever way you look at it. If you're going to spend that much on a system in the hopes of winning, you better do your research first and be certain the system works. It's the same type of stupidity as sending your details to Nigerian emails.
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« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2016, 10:09:59 AM »
Completely stupid whichever way you look at it. If you're going to spend that much on a system in the hopes of winning, you better do your research first and be certain the system works. It's the same type of stupidity as sending your details to Nigerian emails.
Here you think wrong. Of course buying  cat in bag is wrong. But who not let you to open bag ???
Peoples simply himself are silly and think that system will do all job for them.

Lets look simply to poker - here are many basick strategies and many programs  such as poker tracker , holdem manager flopzilla and others.

When you buy theese programs or methods do you buy sure wining ? Of course not. Sure wining not exsist.
But helps theese programs ? Sure - yes.

You must understand that systems , methods or programs do its job and usually do that job perfect. That people expect from then something other - that is problem of theese who expect.

If you are blind - you can put best glases in the world - you still will be blind...

Peoples usually not know what they want and what they need....because of that, they interested  and buy all trash and pass near what  is important....
 

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« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2016, 10:10:46 AM »
Completely stupid whichever way you look at it. If you're going to spend that much on a system in the hopes of winning, you better do your research first and be certain the system works. It's the same type of stupidity as sending your details to Nigerian emails.
Here you think wrong. Of course buying  cat in bag is wrong. But who not let you to open bag ???
Peoples simply himself are silly and think that system will do all job for them.

Lets look simply to poker - here are many basick strategies and many programs  such as poker tracker , holdem manager flopzilla and others.

When you buy theese programs or methods do you buy sure wining ? Of course not. Sure wining not exsist.
But helps theese programs ? Sure - yes.

You must understand that systems , methods or programs do its job and usually do that job perfect. That people expect from then something other - that is problem of theese who expect.

If you are blind - you can put best glases in the world - you still will be blind...

Peoples usually not know what they want and what they need....because of that, they interested  and buy all trash and pass near what  is important....
 

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« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2016, 10:23:33 AM »
No I'm not wrong at all. You cant compare tools which cost less than $100, and have some value, and compare it to a complete "winning" system that costs $6000.

 I'm not saying you cant learn from a tool, but buying a $6000 system better turn you into a winner.

 If you buy a 6k system without reading reviews and being 100% sure it works, or at worst will get your money back, then that's stupid.
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« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2016, 11:54:39 AM »
No I'm not wrong at all.
 If you buy a 6k system without reading reviews and being 100% sure it works, or at worst will get your money back, then that's stupid.
I not buy systems  ;) .
Now look what you write
 
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If you buy a 6k system without reading reviews and being 100% sure it works
If you believe that such system exsist then or you are 6 years old , or you are totally silly. If even acept that such system teoretically can exsist  - you think that it will costs 6 K  ;D ? Man , not be naive.
Such  system simply cant be.

But when you by car you not expect that with it you can fly. Here is main your problem - you buy car but imagine that buy - plane and expect from car what can give you plane.

When you buy say roulette extreeme program, why you expect that it will make sure  winner from you ???

Looser for that is looser, that to lost money in casino, in buyings systems etc. Almoust imposible from looser to make winner....no matter which methods , no matter which programs he will use...
 

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« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2016, 11:55:05 AM »
You cant compare tools which cost less than $100, and have some value, and compare it to a complete "winning" system that costs $6000.

To be fair he said $6000 *worth* of systems, not one system for $6000. I don't think anyone would be so stupid to buy a roulette system for $6000 without some pretty conclusive proof that it worked.

Would they?  :o

You could buy a pretty good roulette computer for much less.
 

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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2016, 12:35:45 PM »
You could buy a pretty good roulette computer for much less.
...and risk been caught and prosecuted and banned for life...
In many western countries and certainly the USA,  the use of roulette computers is a felony.
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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2016, 01:19:42 PM »
You could buy a pretty good roulette computer for much less.
...and risk been caught and prosecuted and banned for life...
Kav, remember, that on roulette computer not writed, that here is roulette computer  :) . Chance to be caught is maybe 0,00001%, so almoust zero if user is clever.
All is diferent - computers are made  thousands and only few wins with them.
The same like with systems or methods - peoples try to get from them, what they cant give....

Really computer not do nothing other, than what do dad with casino paper in hand...only many times faster.
Simply peoples write something and after not know, what to do with that data ....

If you want to win - you must throw away reason why you lost ! If that reason exsist - any system, any program , any computer will not help to you.
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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2016, 10:01:11 AM »
i ve known a guy that he used a roullette computer somewhere in uk and earn 500,000 ! he won 9 out 10 spins ,he buy it from the u.s ,san franscisco ,if i remeber well, for 20,000$. i ve  never use a roulette devise , so i dont know ,but it sounds risky with so many cameras focused on u !
 

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« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2016, 12:27:56 PM »
Are some russian proverb "who not risk - that not drink shampagne" so you must choose - want you that shampagne, or not  :) .
 

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« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2016, 12:35:43 PM »
You can become a free SSB excel program.Nobody has tryed to beat my Shoe Shine Boy system. See also the challenge.
 

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« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2016, 01:10:43 PM »
You can become a free SSB excel program.Nobody has tryed to beat my Shoe Shine Boy system. See also the challenge.
Nothing understand , how i can become program  ? And why to try to beat your system ?