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#### UK-21

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##### Grinding, covering 35 of 37.
« on: May 22, 2016, 07:39:51 PM »
As I've come to the conclusion that my luck just isn't up to pursuing a method of play based on progressing one of the evens-payoff options (the variance on recent sessions totalling a thousand or thereabouts spins was virtually all southerly), I've been kicking around another approach - largely to take advantage of the live wheel of doom at SuperCasino.com.

I came up with the attached. At this site, chip mins are £0.25, although there's a minimum bet of four chips each spin. I've come up with dropping a single chip on:

Black
High
Odd
Line - 13,14,15,16,17,18

These cover thirty five of thirty seven numbers and provides return probs as:

Win prob of 10/37
Neutral result 11/37
Partial loss (2 of 4 units) 14/37
Complete loss 2/37

I've proved the overall returns to the House Edge of -2.7%.

If, unlike me, your luck's in and the variance fairy is being generous, it would be possible to apply some progression points to use this as a basis of a positive progression; ie when 8 units up, double the stake to 4 x 2 thereby playing with the house's money, and if 16 up double up again.

I've attached an Excel spreadsheet if anyone's interested in kicking the idea around or modifying it in someway. Removing the word "Line" in cell N6 will automatically re-cast all of the numbers to reflect the line bet being removed from the staking schedule - so only betting 3 units a spin (although at Supercasino you'd have to increase the unit value to at least £0.50 per unit to meet their minimum staking requirements). Dropping the results of each spin into column A of the "collated sessions" sheet will provide a record of results, profit/loss and a breakdown of what's won or lost what - I've dropped in some example results to drive some summary data.

Despite all of this, my luck still sucks.

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#### Reyth

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##### Re: Grinding, covering 35 of 37.
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2016, 08:21:42 PM »
Why not use a line like 10-15 where you can gain some color disparity?

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##### Re: Grinding, covering 35 of 37.
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2016, 09:13:19 PM »
Did you write the program yourself? The formulas are in Dutch. Are you Dutch or Belgian?

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##### Re: Grinding, covering 35 of 37.
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2016, 09:30:17 PM »
Meh playing around after betting your suggestion and this seems to do better anyway:

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##### Re: Grinding, covering 35 of 37.
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2016, 12:18:03 AM »
The line I used covers three of the four numbers not covered by Black-Odd-High (14,16,18), leaving just 12 as one of the two bogeys. 13,15,17 provides for double coverage, and if any of these pop up it's paid out three ways; line, black,odd.

I aimed for minimising the bet amount ££s wise (ie  4 x £0.25), as opposed to the number of units (3 x £0.50) to stay withing the the min ££ bet each spin requirement. But yes, you can take 1/37 more risk for 1 unit less per spin, although not using the 1-1 payoff options means that if the rule around only losing half-on-a-zero is offered this isn't being taken advantage of as fully. Swings and roundabouts?

The logic in the Excel file I provided I coded using standard US-English syntaxing, so if anything shows in Dutch it must be your version of Excel doing the work. I'm not aware Microsoft released a version in Flemish?
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##### Re: Grinding, covering 35 of 37.
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2016, 06:35:38 AM »
Reyth

Do you Place 6 units on low and 1 unit on street and 4 units on dozen?

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#### Reyth

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##### Re: Grinding, covering 35 of 37.
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2016, 05:11:54 PM »
Reyth

Do you Place 6 units on low and 1 unit on street and 4 units on dozen?

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##### Re: Grinding, covering 35 of 37.
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2016, 01:01:57 PM »
Very nice ...
I like this very much and with La Partage Rule we only lose half the money on low.

But i want to do something about the odds, with your example we have 1 in 9 and i want 1 in 12.
So i was thinking about a hedge bet on zero, but then we don't break even if dozen strike.

Is there a solution to that without staking to high bets.
I would like a bet where i win 2 or 1 units on low or high and break even on dozen or street or zero.
With odds 1 in 12 - is that possibal?

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##### Re: Grinding, covering 35 of 37.
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2016, 01:36:29 PM »
Well if you place a hedge bet on zero you would need to place an extra chip on DZ3 and 2 extra chips on Low and so that would be a 12 unit bet which breaks even on D3 & the street but pays 1 unit on low and pays like 24 units if the zero hits.  So we would be paid for 19 numbers and break even on 15.

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##### Re: Grinding, covering 35 of 37.
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2016, 02:11:35 PM »
Do not hedge if not fair odds!  Play a chance to win, and not spoil it to HE.

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