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#### Jesper

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##### If we cover all table?
« on: May 03, 2016, 03:06:58 PM »

If we cover the table looking to win one unit
we will have on a zero wheel 2 pockets which can
make us lose 35 units in one spin.

If we do the same on NOZ we have one pocket
which can make the same loss, better but not very
good.

If we reduce the chance of win one to
30/36 and look for 3 units, will have a significant reduction
in loosed chips if we hit the remaining six numbers.
The recover rate is fast.
We bet all numbers, and it works on some casinos
in some way or other.

We bet 30 numbers we want to win on.
We bet 1/2 the amount on three numbers
and to get a legal bet one street
has to get 1 and 1/2 bet.

We win 3 units if we hit and lose 15
on a miss. If we miss we take away a 1/2 bet.
run until we are break even or miss again.
If we miss we remove another half bet.

Every miss needs 5 won spins for new high with a
probability of 6/7 each spin.

It works only on NOZ.

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#### Jesper

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##### Re: If we cover all table?
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2016, 06:31:42 PM »

The most effective grinder for NOZ is
this, its only drawback it is only the middle dozen
we can have the six cold numbers, and we have to use High or Low.

We cover the whole table and we win 1 unit if not the six numbers in a DS hit.
If a number (losing DS) hit, we remove that bet for two spins, and it is break even
if no other number hit in the DS. If a double miss, we remove the
hitted bet and recover in a few spins. We allways place the bet in the DS as soon
we recover. It is slow, but it is a safe way to win 100 units.
We can shift between H or L option.

On zero wheel we can lose the whole bet or
the Doz bet, on NOZ it never the case. The bet is
59 units, but we can lose only 5 units in a loosing spin., which can be recovered in only two spins.

The bet is  30 units on h or L, 20  units Doz 1 or 3, 1.5 units on the remaining DS.
« Last Edit: May 03, 2016, 06:34:40 PM by Jesper »

#### petespin

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##### Re: If we cover all table?
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2016, 09:33:29 PM »
well the worst enemy of all roulette systems is a situation where loosess and wins alternate , which means becoz the payout, u always being negative ,so the scenario like the one  u claim that u can recover in just 2 spins, is desirable ,but  in theory, in practice its so much different,its so hard to find something stable and to work for long time ,  all those fluctuations that cause by variance its the biggest problem for everyone , and u know it.

#### Jesper

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##### Re: If we cover all table?
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2016, 09:53:18 PM »
well the worst enemy of all roulette systems is a situation where loosess and wins alternate , which means becoz the payout, u always being negative ,so the scenario like the one  u claim that u can recover in just 2 spins, is desirable ,but  in theory, in practice its so much different,its so hard to find something stable and to work for long time ,  all those fluctuations that cause by variance its the biggest problem for everyone , and u know it.

We all know any method can lose. A bad day then nothing works. This is good. We never lose heavy, and if we know when it is time to break (we can winn later). If you test, you will see even if we get three times miss in a row and a few spins later it repeats, we can manage it. If such a case we only hit the DS for 10 and more in short time it is a real problem. The loss is not terrible the few times we give it up. We reduce the betsize while loosing.

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##### Re: If we cover all table?
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2016, 10:07:30 PM »
IMO ONLY HIT AND RUN STRATEGIES COULD WORK USING BIG SIZE UNITS ,BECOZ VARIANCE WILL BEAT U AT THE END.