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kav

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Handy Brandy
« on: February 18, 2014, 10:29:32 PM »
Just to spice things up I upload this system from an old pdf.
Try at your own risk! ;-)


 

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Re: Handy Brandy
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2014, 09:51:27 AM »
I have read the Handy Brandy strategy. This is not a system but a strategy.  It fulfil the rules of a strategy.
1. the player may bet , the roulette must spin.
2. Start a betting after a fictive loss.
3. Hit and run.

Changing tables, has no influence on the risk or the profit chance
 

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Re: Handy Brandy
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2014, 07:17:36 PM »
Concerning to me you can only win roulette when you have loads of money. Most systems are made for short run hits but will never overcome the edge on the wheel. betting 5 numbers given the change that any number will have a chance of 5/37 is not true at all. In that you can find your  edge. But that you do not find here cause it is only thing what destroys the wheel. And for that you need to have loads of money.  I am a card counter and pro poker player hitting hyper turbos at stars.

In that context I do believe that systems don't win at roulette just strategies. The Handy Brandy method is very decent and if you accept a loss now and than being very disciplined it will make you cash in the long run. The long run is not what it says it is. The casino has manipulate people into making them already weak before they set foot in their joints.

 :) Have all a blessed weekend.

 

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Re: Handy Brandy
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2014, 06:25:38 AM »
Hello BKS11,

Welcome to the roulette forum. You make some great points. Hope you share more of your experiences here.

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Re: Handy Brandy
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2014, 08:21:36 PM »
To BKS11

In the casino I do not play BJ. Cartcounting is out of time with the modern shuffle machines.For pleasure I play on internet BJ very succesful. I use statistic features. I bet grosso modo Martingale after a loss of three  hands. The profit is not much, but the kick is to beat the dealer.
 

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Re: Handy Brandy
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2014, 11:25:30 AM »
I am still counting against the shuffle machines and counting is not out of date because high stake players have a shoe game instead. the machine is very countable!

 

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Re: Handy Brandy
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2014, 01:33:37 AM »
Its fun to play, but now Im looking for some brandy.
 

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Re: Handy Brandy
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2014, 01:26:24 AM »
5 years ago I was having some thoughts on how to find a good system that wins a lot more than it loses. One day the dealer I was talking to, said to me (as many other dealers said before), the roulette numbers spinning are random and have nothing to do with previous spins.  Then it hit me, and I said to myself. IF THE ROULETTE PLAYS RANDOMLY THEN I WILL PLAY RANDOMLY TOO. Then ME and ROULETTE play in equal terms. So I was playing 10-12 numbers that were changing in every spin (not real bets, just wrote them down on a paper and observed what the roulette spun and then compared). To my surprise it didn't take too long and for one of the numbers I was playing (totally randomly) to come up. To make it easier instead of 12 numbers I was playing 3 corner bets (that belong in all 3 dozens), and was changing the 3 corner bets in every spin.  Not looking which ones I played before, as if I had my eyes closed.
To my amazement, I came up with some very interesting conclusions (That was after I went thru thousands of numbers I had on score cards + playing for fun in live dealer online casinos).
1. The majority of the time, 1 of the numbers in the 3 corner bets I was betting on each time came up in less than 7 spins about 85% of the time. Many many times it came up within the first 2-3 bets.
2. 95%-98% of the time the winning number in one of the 3 random corner bets never exceeded 9 spins. YES 95%-98% of the time.
3. After testing the system in tens of thousands of live roulette spins (not RNG from an online roulette), maybe I saw 2-3 times my winning number came on the 13th spin.
BUT FOR OVER 95% NEVER EXCEEDED 9 LOST SPINS.

Now this is my top system and I'm happy to say that I win consistently in land based casinos.
HERE IS HOW I PLAY IT:
I make 3 imaginary corner bets (is that a virtual bet?) as if I was actually betting, but not placing chips. I KEEP BETTING TILL I LOSE 3 CONSECUTIVE TIMES (VIRTUAL BET OF COURSE). If I lose all 3 times , then I bet with real money for the next 4 spins. With a small progression since 3 corner bets don't have much of a progression risk.
The idea is that in the next 4 spins I will have an 85% chance to win (according to my lengthy statistical conclusions), The reason that I'm taking the time to LOSE 3 virtual bets, is to avoid  the expensive progression that could  result if I started the bets from 1-7.
It takes some time and can get boring because during the first 3 VIRTUAL BETS I usually win and have to start all over again.
But TIME I have. I don't play for fun and find the roulette boring if played for fun. I play to WIN MONEY, and if it takes 10 hours of waiting I have plenty of patience.
I OLNY LOSE if I don't stop after 3 REAL money bets, and keep going thinking that my statistic will hold. Then I run into the exception  just like any other system. STOPING THE BETS on time is a major part of every system and avoids a painful disaster.   

I entertain comments about this little system, but please before you knock it down, and recommend something else that's easier and quicker check it out first. I've been checking it for 5 years. If 5 years of statistics yields the  same results, then it's doubtful if anything will change in the future. .
IT IS BASED ON THE NOTION THAT PLAYING RANDOMLY IS THE BEST WAY TO PLAY IN EQUAL TERMS WITH THE ROUETTE. Especially when you lose VIRTUALLY several spins  so that you come closer to the TARGET statistic without losing real money.
PLACING A BET ON YOUR MIND BEFORE THE BALL LANDS, IS THE SAME AS IF YOU PLACED THE BET ON THE TABLE .
(THINK OF IT AS IF YOU WERE BETTING PENNIES-- IF THAT WAS ALLOWED). 

 
 

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Re: Handy Brandy
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2014, 02:36:55 AM »
5 years ago...

My brother and I are working on our own system. Most of our ideas are about grinding small earnings which eventually lead to a nice amount of winnings on the day. We like to debate whatever we can and my brother keeps mentioning that in reality numbers are random so betting should be completely random.

I dont subscribe to betting in a random fashion. For some reason it doesnt feel "safe" to me. If something goes wrong theres nothing I can change for the better. Nothing I can really research.

Your idea is all about randomness. So I decided to give it a try right now just for fun on some online casinos. And for some odd reason I keep winning. its a fun way to gamble, but again I dont feel safe doing it. I feel safe when I have a plan. When I mind my stop losses. When I let me winners run.

I will continue to play around with your strategy and see where it leads me over the next day or two and post back any more thoughts.
 

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Re: Handy Brandy
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2014, 03:54:48 AM »
Betting in random is a system that closely matches the randomness of the roulette spinning. But before you play randomly you have to explore the statistical behavior of what you will bet randomly. I chose 12 numbers in the form of 3 corner bets because I like to play fewer numbers (for better payoffs). Again I repeat that in thousands of trials I found that 3 random corner bets that change every spin rarely exceed 7 spins where they don't come up. And by 95% they never exceed 9 consecutive spins. It's not my guess or assumption. this is what lengthy observations  are telling me.  The price I pay is to wait longer for conditions to develop, before I start betting. But I have plenty of patience. Basically there is nothing to fear because the system dictates to bet certain number of bets (3-4 in this particular system), then STOP. You will catch it in the next cycle. This is the biggest mistake players make.  The don't set a limit of how many spins they will play the system per cycle, before they stop and wait for conditions to develop for the next cycle.
Anyway you said that so far it's profitable for you whether you play it with real money or play it in the testing mode. Remember you have to lose some bets virtually (bet in your mind but not with chips on the table), before you bet with money, and for certain numbers of spins.
Then you stop and start again in another cycle.
 

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Re: Handy Brandy
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2014, 08:24:22 PM »
I am still counting against the shuffle machines and counting is not out of date because high stake players have a shoe game instead. the machine is very countable!

For BKS11
In America they may use shuffle machines to shuffle all the cards after they have been depleted
In Europe, in most places, they use shuffle machines, after each and every pass. So in effect you can't count. Because after each pass, the cards are going back to where they started. Not after depletion of the main stack. There is a difference between shuffling after each individual pass, and shuffling at the end, after all the cards have been depleted. So playing BJ in America is an advantage. But in many European casinos up to 3 people can bet on someone else's box,( including the owner of the box) even if they are not part of the sitting. Of course the decisions are always the choice of the box owner. Not the player that bets behind him on the same box. The advantage of that is that you don't have to play every pass. Only when you feel like it. So card counting is still a major part of a winning system in BJ. However the casinos say it's illegal. And they don't know that you count cards because they READ YOUR MIND. They know because of your betting pattern. Like Minimum when things are unknown, then max when the right time comes.

 

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Re: Handy Brandy
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2014, 07:46:13 PM »
And by 95% they never exceed 9 consecutive spins.

So you are saying out of 100 occurrences, 5 of them will go beyond 9 consecutive spins.


Basically there is nothing to fear because the system dictates to bet certain number of bets (3-4 in this particular system), then STOP. You will catch it in the next cycle. This is the biggest mistake players make.  The don't set a limit of how many spins they will play the system per cycle, before they stop and wait for conditions to develop for the next cycle.


I actually like the random bet theory. Its fun to play & I believe it makes money. The key to most all roulette strategies is to stick to the plan. When one goes outside of the boundaries of the developed plan, that is where money is lost.

Here is a perfect example... I was playing the random bet theory perfectly per your system. I was winning. I made the decision that it is so rare to go beyond 9 times, that I allowed myself to make bets on the 10th, 11th, and 12th spins. And this did work fine for a time. Until once I went 15x and I lost the money I had built up over the week. Because of this I have taken a break from roulette for a few weeks now, but will come back to this. I have plenty of data over the course of a weeks worth of running this system and I will work on some numbers. What amount bets are the best to make and when, does it make sense to make a 10th bet? And so on. I will be back. This is an easy and fun system to do.