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thomasleor

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Kav, you are in error (about roulette tables)
« on: April 27, 2016, 11:04:25 AM »
I just visited your R30 blog and happened to read about your article on "Roulette tables and rules" http://www.roulette30.com/win/roulette-table-types-american-european-french [nofollow]

Under the part you name "What is the American roulette?" You inserted an image of a European roulette table and wheel. If you look at the wheel you can clearly see the zero and the 32 and 26 as its closest neighbours. Additionally you see 5 and 24 on the opposite side. This is the European Wheel,

Further on, American tables do not have racetracks, only European have that. It is very unusual to find two dealers on american tables (perhaps in costa rica?), but in US,  nah..wont happen.

Watch this little vid from a vegas casino to see what I mean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU6xoCiw_BU [nofollow]

This, on the other way,  is very common in Europes finer Casinos and especially in Monte Carlo Casino, in the salon privees.

I suggest you go back and change that image and also check your facts

Thomas
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Re: Kav, you are in error.
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2016, 11:35:33 AM »
Thomas,
It is exactly this kind of confusion I try to clear up with my article.

The table in the image is an American roulette table.

Yes the wheel features only one zero. And the table betting layout has the racetrack. So we can assume it is probably used in Europe. But the TABLE (not the wheel or the table betting layout) is American.
In fact there is no European table. There are mainly two kinds of tables, the American and the French.

If you read the article till the end you will understand more.
In all over Europe such tables can be found and the game is called officially "American roulette".
Why is it called American roulette, since it is played in Europe, with European wheel and with racetrack bets?
Because this is an American table with American rules (no En Prison or La Partage)

Now with online casinos, everything that has one zero is called European roulette. They are only referring to the wheel, since there is no real table in online casinos. But all this ads to the confusion.
« Last Edit: April 27, 2016, 11:46:47 AM by kav »
 
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Re: Kav, you are in error.
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2016, 01:25:32 PM »
You are still not entirely correct.

There are three versions of roulette. The European, American and French Roulette. Sure, the french roulette applies no En Prison, or La Partage, while the American or the European do not apply those rules. The french wheel has all its pockets colored red and of course the french language on its table, while ER and AR has the familiar red and black color distribution (with the 00 added to the American and the different distribution of the numbers 0-36)

What distinguishes the ER from the FR is not only the language, but the fact that the ER also has a race track and  uses the english language.

Your definition of the American roulette is surely in question here, and could be debated extensively.

Thomas,
It is exactly this kind of confusion I try to clear up with my article.

The table in the image is an American roulette table.

Yes the wheel features only one zero. And the table betting layout has the racetrack. So we can assume it is probably used in Europe. But the TABLE (not the wheel or the table betting layout) is American.
In fact there is no European table. There are mainly two kinds of tables, the American and the French.

If you read the article till the end you will understand more.
In all over Europe such tables can be found and the game is called officially "American roulette".
Why is it called American roulette, since it is played in Europe, with European wheel and with racetrack bets?
Because this is an American table with American rules (no En Prison or La Partage)

Now with online casinos, everything that has one zero is called European roulette. They are only referring to the wheel, since there is no real table in online casinos. But all this ads to the confusion.
« Last Edit: April 27, 2016, 01:28:58 PM by thomasleor »
 

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Re: Kav, you are in error.
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2016, 01:52:16 PM »
The difference is that I am not talking about European, French or American roulette.
Because indeed it is very confusing and there is no clear definition.
Therefore in this article I try to define the 3 main parts of the game:
  • The wheel,
  • the table
  • and the rules
This is exactly what makes this article so useful in my opinion. Because we are generally speaking about American or European roulette and anyone can mean something else. Or, like you did, most people refer to the wheel and whether there is one or two zeros.
If we break down the game to its parameters it is easier to define which is what type.

Like I write there:
Theoretically it is possible be in US or Germany or Russia and play a European wheel on an American table with French rules.  :-)
« Last Edit: April 27, 2016, 01:56:34 PM by kav »
 

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Re: Kav, you are in error.
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2016, 01:59:49 PM »
Theoretically it is possible be in US or Germany or Russia and play a European wheel on an American table with French rules.  :-)

Right, but is that American, European or French roulette? XD
 

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Re: Kav, you are in error.
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2016, 02:02:52 PM »
Like I write there:
Theoretically it is possible be in US or Germany or Russia and play a European wheel on an American table with French rules.  :-)

Semantics, and nothing more.

 I could as easily make an equally witty repartee  in line with; Theoretically, Schr√∂dingers cat never lived, nor is it really dead,  and produce the same linear logic based on a set of certain acclaimed facts.
 

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Re: Kav, you are in error (about roulette tables)
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2016, 02:13:14 PM »
The Swedish casinos call  there tables "A kind of American" The wheel is French the tables American, there you do not have the red and black on opposite side. The do not use in prison rather surrender. They do not use a rake.