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VISUAL BALLISTICS pdf file instructions ! HELP PLEASE
« on: March 28, 2016, 03:30:08 AM »
I was given this file by someone

newbielink:http://www.mediafire.com/download/x4i6h4sbbvj90ts/Visual+Roulette+System+%28latest+update%29.pdf [nonactive]

who allegedly bought this visual ballistics method from the original author but didn't make much sence to him and its very poorly written also so he passed it on to me to see if i could make much sense of this myself and explain it to him or work it out myself but all i got was a headache

anyone could share any thoughts on this? if it works and how it works or if its a scam like hexagon (from thomasleor in this same forum and many others - see here http://forum.roulette30.com/index.php?topic=795) ? has anyone tried anything like this before ?

it gets better, my friend paid 200 euros for this !! I think he was taken for a ride ! we all can have it for free tho :P

cheers
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Re: VISUAL BALLISTICS pdf file instructions ! HELP PLEASE
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2016, 06:16:34 AM »
Thanks, Watcher!
 

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Re: VISUAL BALLISTICS pdf file instructions ! HELP PLEASE
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2016, 12:46:12 PM »
It is valid and much better then Jafco's material.

1. The way you estimate the ball using deceleration pattern is valid and working.
You get the same distance or timeframe from read to drop or A to B.
But is with no use with today's casino conditions where the say No More Bets 6 to 7 laps Before drop.
This means you need to predict more early and then you lose accuracy with ball/rotor speed.
So i give the way to estimate the ball 5 out of 10 Points.

2. The way they describe the dominant drop zone and degree of tilt is super knowledge.
I have not seen any one describe it so clear with Pictures and show you why and which deflector should be your reference spot or focus pin.
So i give the way they explain dominant drop zone 10 out of 10.

3. The English might not be super, but if you have basic knowledge about Visual ballistic so it that a very good document and Worth every penny.
So overal i give the material 8 out of 10.

Thanks for sharing :-)
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Re: VISUAL BALLISTICS pdf file instructions ! HELP PLEASE
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2016, 01:19:42 PM »
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anyone could share any thoughts on this? if it works and how it works or if its a scam like hexagon
It is simply ABC instructions. say something like primary school. To win you must finish maybe university.... so to learn this and many other.
If you have some questtions is much better to give them direct to autor of material.
Here is not very good way to ask in forum about material which nobody from forum writers use, for that you must go to some AP forum, but usually they are private....
 
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Re: VISUAL BALLISTICS pdf file instructions ! HELP PLEASE
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2016, 02:50:20 PM »
The question is to what percentage of modern wheels will any VB system be effective today?
My opinion is to very low percentage.
 
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« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2016, 06:28:01 PM »
The question is to what percentage of modern wheels will any VB system be effective today?
My opinion is to very low percentage.
I not know exact, but think that can play better than random on 100% of wheels. Maybe not on all can overcome that -2.7%, but still will be  better than -2.7%.
I won much money in arguings, when somebody betted against me....
 
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Re: VISUAL BALLISTICS pdf file instructions ! HELP PLEASE
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2016, 03:14:57 PM »
Jean-Claud at VLS forum wrote 6 years ago the following:

Hello I will now explain to u fully why nowdays we can t win with VB and Rcs.(I am very expirienced in VB anmd I also have 3 Rcs)

1)The Tilt  is Very rare
2)The tilt is very light
3)The balls are very LIGHT and the resault is NO pattern in Scatter
4)The frets are very LOW profile and the resault is NO pattern in Scatter
5)after we have made our adjastements the CONDITIONS(tilt,Ball timmings,scatter,observatiion points) can change at anytime of the game

Even if not all the above will happen

6) The dealer or the pitboss or the eyes from the sky will imediatelly understand what we are doing because
a)We are looking in the wheel in every spin
b)We are betting late(after the spin of the ball)
c)we are betting neibours
d)we are winning in a better rate of the odds

So they will imediatelly do these things
a)Change the Rotor speed dramatically(so all will be lost...because even if we would be able to folow the Strike point,The scatter will be MESSED UP!)
b)say NMB quite early

so my ambitious future VB players did u understood?
 ;D

VB was a way to make MILLIONS before the 90s.....and this is because the wheels and the balls had the correct/desired conditions and the Casinos wasn t so aware of the wheel watchers.

Now all u have to do is play randomly.

And Kelly reply with the following:

I can`t say i totally agree.

1. Yes the tilts are not so extreme anymore, but they are there in light versions. = more tracking
2. The balls are actually not lighter, they just look that way when they bounce.
3. There are more and more often no scatter pattern, but usually there IS a pattern. = more tracking
4. The most annoying thing is frequent dealer changes, here in San Remo Italy every 15 minutes = different dealer MO
5. If you use laurances system 2 or 3 quick glances is enough, you can do that while you make a cover bet. = no staring
6. There are ways to bet that camouflages that you are betting neighbours. It takes a bit off the edge but its better than to be cut off completely
7. Make sure you follow the above rules and don`t give them any reason to rewind the tapes and they will let you play on and win to some extent.

 
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Re: VISUAL BALLISTICS pdf file instructions ! HELP PLEASE
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2016, 04:32:54 PM »
Thanks Lucky Strike for this very informative post!
 

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« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2016, 01:29:22 PM »
Jean-Claud at VLS forum wrote 6 years ago the following:
Now all u have to do is play randomly.
Who knows who is that Jean-Claud ?

Maybe actor, maybe kung fu master, maybe casino worker... nobody him know. And this is problem - some  nick name write something and many other peoples , players take that like if that will be 100% true.

But if you will try to think logical - really he say - not play VB because you will lost ! So who can have such big interest  that others will not play VB ???
natural casino worker which not want that other will play in way which can  win.
If you will play say  systems and progressions all that is possible to calculate and know result which will be, but VB to calculate is not so easy....

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VB was a way to make MILLIONS before the 90s..
I played in theese 90s and play now, not sure if in 90s was easier, was the same hard as now.
But hard not means - impossible....
 
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