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asiawatcher

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The HEXAGON and various Bot scams !!
« on: March 27, 2016, 11:14:06 PM »
Alright because the previous topic was locked due to flame wars ill try to keep this in a polite way just so i can pass a message to everyone for their own protection.

User Thomasleor (with his hexagon threads and videos) has filled this forum with threads videos and pictures of his so called hexagon software that he made and apparently isnt sharing with anyone although he advertises it passionately and even posts videos of it working and winning all the time and everytime!! many people have flamed him that the description of how his system works is a joke and doesn't make much sense but he keeps coming back and forth and creating new threads and uploading promotional material ALTHOUGH he isn't selling his software as he claims.

I asked him nicely to share his software because noone here understands how it works or beleives it even works, but he denied all he said was crap and nonsence (in public - see hexagon threads for more details), in PM i wanted to "frame" him and see what are his true intentions and why so much advertisement and effort to convince us it works for a so called software that he isnt explaining how it works he isnt selling nor giving away for free (i never believed he is going in such lengths of advertisement/promotion without intending to sell this)and I acted like i needed this system badly and i would pay him $200 for this he said make it $300 and we are ok although i say again HE CLAIMS IN PUBLIC HE IS NOT SELLING IT !! so i "busted him" that were indeed his true intentions thats why he isnt giving it away thats why he isnt explaining much thats why he is offending/attacking people  questioning him (see hexagon threads) and those people were asking reasonable and fair enough questions.

Eventhough there is nothing wrong with selling a WORKING SOFTWARE his system doesnt work its fictional and scam like many roulette systems software you can find on ebay for much less money than that or even for much more than $300 on the internet and various youtube videos with links in description redirecting you to blogspot websites where you can download/pay for software that does more or less what Thomalsleor software does..nothing !

Now just wanted to warn anyone to NOT GIVE HIM ANY MONEY AND DO NOT BELIEVE HIM ! this guy is a scammer and a lier, his system doesn't work thats why he refrains from sharing any details with us and only posts videos and pictures, no method no details no nothing till you offer him money and then he will scam you take your money and give you a non working excel file (not even a proper software) that does none of what he claims excel spreadsheets dont have the capabilities he claims anyway they are not proper c++ software im a programmer i should know better.

you guys have been warned after all we got democracy! just wanted to expose him for the well being of everyone in here. I'm sick and tired of people trying to fool gamblers like us and offer us for sale their holy grail that does nothing, sick and tired of this really.

here are some other people doing more or less the same

roulettebotplus  -com
s362027155 - onlinehome - us/
roullette-b blogspot com
roulette555.blogspot com/ 2016/01 /blog-post_49 .html

stay away from all of them, thomasleor also !!!

thank you
« Last Edit: March 27, 2016, 11:42:37 PM by kav »


 

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Re: The HEXAGON SCAM 2 - WARNING ONLY NO FLAME !!
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2016, 11:26:38 PM »
Hi,

Thanks for writing this post in a polite manner.
And I would like to ask everyone, no matter what he has to say to say it in a polite way.
I understand that your intentions are good.
The funny thing is that I'm not sure if by your exposure we are doing good or bad to these sites.
I' mean maybe people who were never aware of them now will visit them...

And I know that I may sound monotonously repetitive, but I really believe the best way to act is:
IGNORE THE BS

As a Greek you are aware of the proverb "whoever deals with bran gets eaten by the chicken" which means do not deal with BS - just go away from it.
« Last Edit: March 28, 2016, 01:08:49 AM by kav »
 

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Re: The HEXAGON SCAM 2 - WARNING ONLY NO FLAME !!
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2016, 11:36:29 PM »

Hi,

Thanks for writing this post in a polite manner.
And I would like to ask everyone, no matter what he has to say to say it in a polite way.
I understand that your intentions are good.
The funny thing is that I'm not sure if by your exposure we are doing good or bad to these sites.
I' mean maybe people who were never aware of them now will visit them...

And  know that I may sound monotonously repetitive, but I really believe the best way to act is:
IGNORE THE BS

As a Greek you are aware of the proverb "whoever deals with bran is eaten by the chicken" which means do not deal with BS - just go away from it.

if they search for them with the terms bot and scam i guess they will end up here :)

i used to do the same with "roulettebot plus scam" as keywords and thank god for me i ended up in forum sites saying the same thing i do for hexagon. You see the roulettebot plus seem to delete any bad comments from youtube and their facebook page/channel and last resort was forums thank god i found many threads saying stay away

will do kav :p
« Last Edit: March 27, 2016, 11:37:38 PM by kav »
 

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Re: The HEXAGON SCAM 2 - WARNING ONLY NO FLAME !!
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2016, 11:42:43 PM »


You claim to have PMd me. And framed me and that I asked money LOL

When were those pm.s sent? Give us here exact time stamp when you sent them and I will check my email box and take a screen cap of the inbox.

Why dont you tell them how it really is. Just because I refused to "give" you HEX you have had this mega tantrum like a little boy that cannot accept a no.

Until you show me and others here the socalled PM you claim to have sent with time stamps (so I can check my email box)

Thomas

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« Last Edit: March 27, 2016, 11:48:08 PM by kav »
 

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Re: The HEXAGON SCAM 2 - WARNING ONLY NO FLAME !!
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2016, 12:01:09 AM »
Yeah you are right so i made all these up because you didnt give me a non working software which i asked you to post so anyone can download it and not just me and test because i never believed you anyway that this works (thats why i asked in the first place) and because when anyone doubted you you offended/attacked him how clever!

Enough with these crap If it works upload it here for everyone to test and see like everyone else does in here. Dont just flood us with nonsense, im done with you Thomas noone believes you and i got better things to do really.

If i had such a magic software tho i dont think i would let anyone know nor act like you and those internet scammers that try to sell us software with video proof only which is fake and prerecorded.

Enough said by me i guess ill let other users do the talking from now on lets see if they agree or disagree with me.


You claim to have PMd me. And framed me and that I asked money LOL

When were those pm.s sent? Give us here exact time stamp when you sent them and I will check my email box and take a screen cap of the inbox.

Why dont you tell them how it really is. Just because I refused to "give" you HEX you have had this mega tantrum like a little boy that cannot accept a no.

Until you show me and others here the socalled PM you claim to have sent with time stamps (so I can check my email box)

Thomas

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Re: The HEXAGON SCAM 2 - WARNING ONLY NO FLAME !!
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2016, 12:53:41 AM »
don't bother checking your email box here it is, last pic before its permanently deleted

why the heck would i lie about this anyways ?

oh well ..the end !!

« Last Edit: March 28, 2016, 01:07:43 AM by kav »
 

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Re: The HEXAGON and various Bot scams !!
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2016, 01:24:13 AM »
It's rather obvious that Thomasleor is Blue Angel.
 

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Re: The HEXAGON and various Bot scams !!
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2016, 02:01:14 AM »
Well.....that's curtains for me on the forum.

Kav, with all due respect, the optics of this just don't look good, and raise issues about the integrity of this forum.

I know that you and I have had are differences in the past, but i never questioned the actual legitimacy of the forum. But when a new member is so blatantly posting material to either troll or sell something.........and then the administrator says "just ignore it if you don't like it"...........well.........that looks.......at best............strange...................or possibly worse.

I greatly appreciate the forum, and sincerely wish you all the best moving forward. :)
 

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Re: The HEXAGON and various Bot scams !!
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2016, 02:24:09 AM »
without trying to defend anyone, kav along with few others such as Geoffrey,scepticus to name a few actively doubted Thomas along most of his threads but he got the same kind of generic answers most of us got "use your brain", "try to figure it out it isn't difficult" etc

like in here http://forum.roulette30.com/index.php?topic=783.15

size=1.35em]Thomas, It would be really helpful if you made a short post, preferably with bullet points where you recap what is that you are actually proposing. What actually do you bring to the table. What is the idea(s) you want to share.I would hate to read all your posts (when I find the time) and realize they are all hinting and claiming and not offering any specific idea to the table.
Thanks for your reply.Ok, I understand there are parts that you don't want to describe explicitly. But are there things (points, ideas, insights, something...) on which your approach is based on and you want to explain?Aside from trying to "crack this nut", is there something that you have to say to average player, loud and clear? Or is this all about teasing?
I guess afterwards he gave up unlike the short tempered me :P

Kav I reckon forum had a rule though that empty claims or out of topic generalizations (such as Thomas'es) would be deleted tho ? http://forum.roulette30.com/index.php?topic=259.0

This forum rule will be enforced. Counterproductive, out of topic generalizations, and intimidating posts will be removed. Empty claims will be removed too.I believe this will allow the discussions move beyond the childish exchanges
- I can beat roulette
- No you can't. I can.If you think the other members are clueless, please do not say so. It is just bad manners. Try to share your knowledge instead. Not your "achievements", your knowledge. Thanks

You know best i guess
« Last Edit: March 28, 2016, 03:04:59 AM by kav »
 

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Re: The HEXAGON and various Bot scams !!
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2016, 03:11:04 AM »
thelaw,
Thanks for your comment.
I'm sure that you put the all the forums you post in under the same scrutiny.
You are posting in a thread with the title: "The HEXAGON and various Bot scams !!" that is hosted in this forum.
That says everything about the integrity of this forum.

I admit that I was overwhelmed by the amount of material (text, images, video) provided by thomas. I couldn't believe one would go to so much pain to produce all this material, just to trick the forum visitors. And I still haven't managed to read or watch all that stuff.

PS: In fact, I believe that giving space to thomas gave the motivation to Real to find out that article and post it here. Otherwise all this activity might have happened under the radar and never exposed.
« Last Edit: March 28, 2016, 03:37:28 AM by kav »
 

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Re: The HEXAGON SCAM 2 - WARNING ONLY NO FLAME !!
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2016, 04:52:01 AM »
don't bother checking your email box here it is, last pic before its permanently deleted



why the heck would i lie about this anyways ?

oh well ..the end !!


LOL...man I know my english is not the best, but I dont even write like that. Yet, lets have some fun with your hasty and clumpsy attempt to slander other members by resorting to lies and childish forging attempts with photoshop.

1/ You seem to have mispelled Hexagon. In your eagerness to slander and forge something you wrote "HEXACON" LOL...Moreover, your use of the word "coz" was especially fascinating. Anyone reading any of my posts. or comments, on this forum at any given time, will easily notice I have never used that abbreviation of the word "because". That, my photoshopping friend, would be something up your ally.

2/ Interesting that I would try to sell my platform which took me a rather long time to develop for a fee of measly 300 USD, which isnt even the monthly allowance I used to give my kids when they were 10yo.  But then, had you read my post "The making of Hexagon - part 2" you would have read this



3/I am sure Roulette30 has an internal mailserver and KAV would be able to verify such a mail. If not, lets look at my own mailserver I use. According to your bad forging I am supposed to have sent that 27th March at 06.23 pm.hmmm lets see



Nope I dont see anything sent to some kostas, asianwatcher or god knows who this troll is at that time.

And should you try to claim I trashed it...hmm here is my trash. As you see the most recent is from 24th of March.



But I have sent my platform for free to among some, this person



I think that mail exchange speaks for itself. I took the liberty to cover his email address. After all I do not want him harassed by some lunatic from Athens or wherever you are from in Greece.

I could go on, but you are not worth the enrgy wasted to pursue such a venture. You lack honor, integrity and the good sense of producing something of your own effort signifying a creative mind.

Anyone on this forum with a normal intelligence can deduct rather quickly that something is seriously wrong with you. Someone with obvious mental health issues,  who cannot accept a "no", when offered one by another party. I suggest you seek help. You seem to need it.

regards

Thomas
« Last Edit: March 28, 2016, 05:58:11 AM by thomasleor »
 

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Re: The HEXAGON and various Bot scams !!
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2016, 06:37:52 AM »
thelaw,
Thanks for your comment.
I'm sure that you put the all the forums you post in under the same scrutiny.
You are posting in a thread with the title: "The HEXAGON and various Bot scams !!" that is hosted in this forum.
That says everything about the integrity of this forum.

I admit that I was overwhelmed by the amount of material (text, images, video) provided by thomas. I couldn't believe one would go to so much pain to produce all this material, just to trick the forum visitors. And I still haven't managed to read or watch all that stuff.

PS: In fact, I believe that giving space to thomas gave the motivation to Real to find out that article and post it here. Otherwise all this activity might have happened under the radar and never exposed.

What is wrong with you KAV? You underwrite a mere paranoic suspicion by REAL, basically calling me a scammer and a fraud like the greek guy in that article, and in the same time you confess you havent even read my material posted on this forum, nor watched my live session with HEX on Celtic Casino?

First of all I am from Sweden,



 and not from USA, as that greek guy (covicted in California) in that scamtrick (so common in USA). Secondly, it is beneath you as a forum owner, to accuse the members of your own forum without proper evidence pointing out the basis of your accusations.

If you think I am a scammer, despite my  presenting a live video session with HEX used on Celtic in real time and later also from another casino, why dont you ban me from this forum?

As I write this I just received an encouraging PM from a member that tried to persuade me to stay. Not revealing his name as to protect his integrity he wrote this;


When I first stumbled over your articles about roulette while searching for information on roulette, I thought you showed integrity, intelligence and tolerance. That is what attracted me to your forum. In making that abhorrent comment above, you show something totally different.

How much proof do you want  in order to believe I mean nothing more than contributing with ideas, and material that strives to inspire certain ppl on this forum to develop their own platform?

And why do you give such leeway to "asianwatcher" aka Kostas, and his baseless vetriolic accusations that are starting to affect this forum in a mist of unpleasentness without the slightest request of proof from your side before you take some good action and make things return to the SQ this forum had before his entrance.

I can assure you that this guy, even if you ban me, or I leave due to this mindless abuse, will continue with his ways of harassing members not being to his liking. Mark my words.

Is this how you really want things to be?
regards

Thomas
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« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2016, 07:06:49 AM »
Seriously asiawatcher! I believe you are the scammer and a troll. The evidence you provided where Thomas supposedly asked you for 300 USD, does not seem legit, but something that was constructed. The way the PM was written (words & grammar) does not correspond with how Thomas has written his posts on this forum. And I don't believe Thomas would change his writing style in a PM to you.

 

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« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2016, 07:26:28 AM »
One thing I noticed from the supposed PM. is that the PM asking for $300 USD, the writer when typing "I" actually types it lower case as in "i". Looking at both asiawatcher and thomas posts, its actually asiawatcher who strangely types "i" instead of "I", not Thomas. So the PM may in fact be fabricated.
 

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« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2016, 07:56:26 AM »
Thomas,
I'm not calling anyone anything.
I don't care to be a detective, a policeman or make speculations. This forum takes a lot of my (and Reyth's)  time as it is. I have better things to do.
Furthermore, I'm the one who believes that:
1. We should use our judgement, don't waste time with BS and move forward
2. We should not make personal characterizations.

Now, all this would not have happened if instead of making claims and teasing people to "crack the nut" you simply explained your system. If you don't want to explain your system publicly, what are you doing in a public forum anyway?!
« Last Edit: March 28, 2016, 08:04:28 AM by kav »