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Double Dozen D'Alembert
« on: February 18, 2016, 08:24:35 PM »


This can obviously work with the Dozens bets as well.  If you lose up 2 and if you win down 1 unit (or remain at one unit).  When in profit, back to 1 unit (or you can continue until you hit your profit goal).

This is from the same author as D'Alembert Avenue and he states that a 100 unit bank balance is required.

He doesn't usually recommend outside bets but he says it is good to get started so you can create a larger balance for the inside systems.


 

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Re: Double Dozen D'Alembert
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2016, 08:41:29 PM »
Never had luck with Double Dozens...
 

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Re: Double Dozen D'Alembert
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2016, 01:10:49 AM »
I am having tremendous luck on columns

i have tested it on zumma and live wheel

I bet: the last column that hit and the sleeper column

example
C
B
A
now i would bet column A as it last hit, and column C as it is the "sleeper"

a regular d'amblert +1 -1 keeps me in profit

example session:

C
B
A (bet B and A) WIN
C (bet A and C) WIN
A (bet C and B) LOSE
B (bet A and B) WIN
B (bet B and C) WIN
A (bet B and C) LOSE
C (bet A and C) WIN
A (bet C and B) LOSE
A (bet A and B) WIN
A (bet A and B) WIN
C (bet A and B) LOSE
A (bet C and B) LOSE
A (bet A and B) WIN
A (bet A and B) WIN
C (bet A and B) LOSE
C (bet C and B) WIN
C (bet C and B) WIN
A (bet C and B) LOSE
B (bet A and B) WIN
A (bet B and C) LOSE
A (bet A and C) WIN
A (bet A and C) WIN
« Last Edit: February 19, 2016, 01:25:29 AM by RouletteGhost »
 
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Re: Double Dozen D'Alembert
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2016, 07:26:12 AM »
Whatever you are doing with columns is equally relevant with dozens.

The only difference is that columns are a pain in the arse, and dozens are easy peasy.

So why would you bother with columns?
 

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Re: Double Dozen D'Alembert
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2016, 09:35:36 AM »
La partage makes the difference between dozen and columns.The HE is for dozens a little smaller
 
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Re: Double Dozen D'Alembert
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2016, 06:26:27 PM »
Whatever you are doing with columns is equally relevant with dozens.

The only difference is that columns are a pain in the arse, and dozens are easy peasy.

So why would you bother with columns?

Actually the other way around. You sit at the end of the table for columbs.
 

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Re: Double Dozen D'Alembert
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2016, 06:48:44 PM »
I am having tremendous luck on columns

i have tested it on zumma and live wheel

I bet: the last column that hit and the sleeper column

example
C
B
A
now i would bet column A as it last hit, and column C as it is the "sleeper"

a regular d'amblert +1 -1 keeps me in profit

example session:

C
B
A (bet B and A) WIN
C (bet A and C) WIN
A (bet C and B) LOSE
B (bet A and B) WIN
B (bet B and C) WIN
A (bet B and C) LOSE
C (bet A and C) WIN
A (bet C and B) LOSE
A (bet A and B) WIN
A (bet A and B) WIN
C (bet A and B) LOSE
A (bet C and B) LOSE
A (bet A and B) WIN
A (bet A and B) WIN
C (bet A and B) LOSE
C (bet C and B) WIN
C (bet C and B) WIN
A (bet C and B) LOSE
B (bet A and B) WIN
A (bet B and C) LOSE
A (bet A and C) WIN
A (bet A and C) WIN

RG. Having something that presumably keeps you even keel on the results is
good. If it continues.

But are you saying that the D'alenbert works?
Like bet 1,1.  You lose 2 -2.
Bet 2,2          You lose 4 -4.
You are -6

You are -6.

Bet 3,3         You win.  +3
Bet 2,2         You win.   +2
Bet 1,1         You win.   +1

2 losses and 3 wins to get you even.
 
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Re: Double Dozen D'Alembert
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2016, 10:14:41 PM »
I am having tremendous luck on columns

i have tested it on zumma and live wheel

I bet: the last column that hit and the sleeper column

example
C
B
A
now i would bet column A as it last hit, and column C as it is the "sleeper"

a regular d'amblert +1 -1 keeps me in profit

example session:

C
B
A (bet B and A) WIN
C (bet A and C) WIN
A (bet C and B) LOSE
B (bet A and B) WIN
B (bet B and C) WIN
A (bet B and C) LOSE
C (bet A and C) WIN
A (bet C and B) LOSE
A (bet A and B) WIN
A (bet A and B) WIN
C (bet A and B) LOSE
A (bet C and B) LOSE
A (bet A and B) WIN
A (bet A and B) WIN
C (bet A and B) LOSE
C (bet C and B) WIN
C (bet C and B) WIN
A (bet C and B) LOSE
B (bet A and B) WIN
A (bet B and C) LOSE
A (bet A and C) WIN
A (bet A and C) WIN

I'll also remind you that the method I tested last fall was this with a labby.
To me specific, I was doing last two. Then I integrated a thing where after
a loss (or two, I forget) I'd switch to the other selection method.

You needed the labby to catch up.

But maybe the D'alenbert is a downgrade that will save your bacon.
 

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Re: Double Dozen D'Alembert
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2016, 11:49:53 PM »
with a nice bet selection any 24 number progression is tough

i like damblert

but the modified damblert for 24 numbers is cool

+2 -1
 

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Re: Double Dozen D'Alembert
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2016, 07:23:21 PM »
with a nice bet selection any 24 number progression is tough

i like damblert

but the modified damblert for 24 numbers is cool

+2 -1

Can you post a workout of the math in a session? Zumma? Whatever?

(I'll try to not make you laugh)
 

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Re: Double Dozen D'Alembert
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2016, 08:33:47 AM »

This is interesting subject, it caught my attention.

I'd like to see it backwards, reversed, by knowing what's your enemy you can successfully defeat him...

We are betting 2 dozens or columns, it doesn't really matter because both options have 24 numbers, so our enemy is 1 dozen or 1 column plus zero.

The maximum streak for any given dozen/column is 14 in a row, confirmed in millions of results.
What if we could overcome such negative streak in the most realistic manner?

By saying realistic I mean to recover 14 loses caused by 12 numbers with 7 wins from 24 numbers.
In other words our selection which includes double the numbers of the opposition to hit half times, how does it sound?
Possible?
A progression like D'Alembert aims to stretch the recovery longe and not to look for the instant relief.
What usually kills you is sudden anomalies in the distribution, are happening out of the blue and with a steep progression you have very good chances to be destroyed.
It's like driving very fast in a road full of turns, visibility is limited and when you suddenly see something in front of you you don't have the time for brakes or manuevre.

Let's get to the point;

Example that 1st dozen hit twice in a row, trigger is been activated to bet the other 2 dozens.
Let's say first bet and win, we are +1 and wait for another trigger of a dozen or column to hit twice in a row.
But for the examples sake let's say we lose 12 times in a row, so that dozen hit 14 times in a row and we lost a total of -24 units (12*2).

These 24 units can be recovered with a streak of 7 wins like this 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 + 4 = 25 - 24 = +1
I'm talking about a positive progression which raises gradually only after winning, so no matter how many times in a row we lost, we are keeping the same bet amount, when we start winning we increase with D'alembert progression.

If our winning streak is being interrupted before we fully recover we stop betting and wait for new trigger, when trigger is being activated we are going to continue the progression where we left it, from the last lost amount till full recovery.
There is also another progression which achieves full recovery in 5 wins instead of 7 which is the case with D'Alembert.

This progression is my creation that's why I call it BlueAngel.
So this is how it goes, start from 1 unit and increasing dynamically 1 + 2 + 4 + 7 + 11 = 25 five winning streak instead of seven required with D'alembert.

If you noticed the increments are not fixed, from 1 raises 1 and betting 2 units on next level, from 2 raises 2 and betting 4 units on next level, from 4 raises 3 and betting 7 units on next level, from 7 raises 4 and betting 11 units on next level...steps to follow: 1   2   4   7   11   16   22   29   37   46

This is my positive dynamic progression which I'm applying on 2 dozens/columns as described above.

 
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Re: Double Dozen D'Alembert
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2016, 10:18:22 AM »
If you bet two dozens I suggest you bet the two dozens that have hit recently.
A dozen can sleep for quite some time.
 

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Re: Double Dozen D'Alembert
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2016, 10:40:35 AM »
If you bet two dozens I suggest you bet the two dozens that have hit recently.
A dozen can sleep for quite some time.

This is good alternative, it could be 2 triggers instead of 1:

1) When the same dozen or column hits twice in a row bet the other 2

2) When there are 2 different dozens or columns in the last 2 spins bet them for a repeat

I think both of them are good triggers and with the positive dynamic progression I've suggested above make a VERY powerful combination!
 
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Re: Double Dozen D'Alembert
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2016, 11:05:59 AM »
Thanks Blue, missed your inventive posts last few weeks!
 

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Re: Double Dozen D'Alembert
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2016, 11:17:46 AM »
Thanks Blue, missed your inventive posts last few weeks!

Thanks!

I had to share my ''lights'' elsewhere. 8)