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I like to speak with parables, regarding Greek mythology there is the myth of "Icarus"...

Icarus was so excited with his ability to fly and flew higher and higher, gradually closer to the sun till heating from sunbeams melt down his wax wings and he felt to the sea which today is called Icarion pelagos. (in Greek)

The aftermath is that if you get very near the "infallible method", then perhaps you would need a "CPR" in order to "revive" your bankroll!;-)


 

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Re: Very Near The Infallible Method & Consistent Profit Roulette system
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2016, 04:40:55 PM »
Divide the table into 4 sections of 9 as you wish.  Wait for 9 consecutive misses in any one section.  Bet the entire section until it hits using the progression 1 1 2 2 3 4 6 8 12 16 22 and then continue betting that section until it misses using the progression 1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3 etc.

Interesting notes on the first betting phase, each spin of the progression has the following chances of hitting:

91.85%
93.84%
95.34%
96.47%
97.32%
97.98%
98.47%
98.85%
99.13%
99.34%
99.51%

Bankroll required 800 units.  Recommended total bankroll 3200 units.

The attached software will automatically track 4 sections of the board from top to bottom:

1-9
10-18
19-27
28-36
« Last Edit: January 07, 2016, 07:23:32 PM by Reyth »
 

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Re: Very Near The Infallible Method & Consistent Profit Roulette system
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2016, 08:27:43 PM »
I just ran the CPR for the past hour. I was doing quite well. I started with a bankroll of 1000 units, built it up easily and quickly to 1500 units. Then.... the misses poured in. 16 in a row. Luckily I hit on the last one (but had to lower a few bets). To play this I think you need a minimum bankroll of 1728 units if Im not mistaken. I would have been wiped out had I missed on that last one.

So, IMO if you equate this to a dozens style system you could miss dozens more than 16x in a row. Its happened to me on many occasions while working on systems here about a year ago. Ive personally seen it go 23x without hitting a dozen and the consensus Ive read here 26x is is about the max (although mentions of 31x are possible).

So running the CPR method but incorporating a longer progression AND/OR starting the bets on say the 13th miss in a row (not 8th) would help not to break the bank.

And the problem with that in itself is if you astart out on the 13th or say 16th miss and then a 10 step progresion.... youre not winning much as going 16x doesnt happen very often. On a computer playing for an hour it happened once.
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Re: Very Near The Infallible Method & Consistent Profit Roulette system
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2016, 08:49:19 PM »
I just ran the CPR for the past hour. I was doing quite well. I started with a bankroll of 1000 units, built it up easily and quickly to 1500 units. Then.... the misses poured in. 16 in a row. Luckily I hit on the last one (but had to lower a few bets). To play this I think you need a minimum bankroll of 1728 units if Im not mistaken. I would have been wiped out had I missed on that last one.

So, IMO if you equate this to a dozens style system you could miss dozens more than 16x in a row. Its happened to me on many occasions while working on systems here about a year ago. Ive personally seen it go 23x without hitting a dozen and the consensus Ive read here 26x is is about the max (although mentions of 31x are possible).

So running the CPR method but incorporating a longer progression AND/OR starting the bets on say the 13th miss in a row (not 8th) would help not to break the bank.

And the problem with that in itself is if you astart out on the 13th or say 16th miss and then a 10 step progresion.... youre not winning much as going 16x doesnt happen very often. On a computer playing for an hour it happened once.

I think you have confused the system's instructions, it says during the "coast mode" you bet the minimum, the "attack mode" is optional but if you are using it,then you keep on betting as long as you win, when first loss happens you stop immediately and return to "wait mode".
So how could someone lose consecutive times?? Am I missing something??
Except if you meant during the "coastal mode" in which you bet minimum till a win.
However, I don't think by increasing the waiting time you would achieve overall better results.
 

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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2016, 09:05:31 PM »
I think you have confused the system's instructions, it says during the "coast mode" you bet the minimum, the "attack mode" is optional but if you are using it,then you keep on betting as long as you win, when first loss happens you stop immediately and return to "wait mode".
So how could someone lose consecutive times?? Am I missing something??
Except if you meant during the "coastal mode" in which you bet minimum till a win.
However, I don't think by increasing the waiting time you would achieve overall better results.

As I understood, during coast mode after 8 spins you begin a progression of:

1,1,2,5,10,15,25,35,50

Not much different than a dozens bet after 8 misses since they divide up the wheel by 1/3s
 

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Re: Very Near The Infallible Method & Consistent Profit Roulette system
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2016, 09:09:22 PM »
My results were the same Jake.  Either we make the trigger more rare or expand the progression or both but as it is, this thing fails too frequently.
 

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Re: Very Near The Infallible Method & Consistent Profit Roulette system
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2016, 09:16:01 PM »
It doesn't matter which trigger you use. The results will be the same as if no trigger is used at all.
 

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Re: Very Near The Infallible Method & Consistent Profit Roulette system
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2016, 09:24:17 PM »
Thanks for sharing your theory with us Real! : D
 

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Re: Very Near The Infallible Method & Consistent Profit Roulette system
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2016, 09:29:23 PM »
I think you have confused the system's instructions, it says during the "coast mode" you bet the minimum, the "attack mode" is optional but if you are using it,then you keep on betting as long as you win, when first loss happens you stop immediately and return to "wait mode".
So how could someone lose consecutive times?? Am I missing something??
Except if you meant during the "coastal mode" in which you bet minimum till a win.
However, I don't think by increasing the waiting time you would achieve overall better results.

As I understood, during coast mode after 8 spins you begin a progression of:

1,1,2,5,10,15,25,35,50

Not much different than a dozens bet after 8 misses since they divide up the wheel by 1/3s

You wait 7 misses during "wait mode" and 8 misses on "coast mode", that's 15 misses already but you have lost 8 times 12 numbers for a total loss of 96 units after a sector of 12 numbers sleeps for 15 times, then you start the progression, right?
If what I've described is correct then do you know how much you would have lost from 15 consecutive losing bets on a dozen? Why the same?
This way saves you money and you guys are telling that's very easy to miss 15 successive times a 12 sector??
Am I missing something??
 

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Re: Very Near The Infallible Method & Consistent Profit Roulette system
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2016, 09:51:50 PM »
Are you trying to say that's very easy to miss 15 successive times a 12 sector?
The bet doesn't increase before the first win and stops immediately after a loss, right?
Am I missing something??

How about the infallible method?
 

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Re: Very Near The Infallible Method & Consistent Profit Roulette system
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2016, 10:31:20 PM »
The way I understood the method, after 9 misses you dive in with the progression which is 11 elements for a total of 20 consecutive failures when the progression busts.  I had two of these busts in close proximity to each other and that was enough for me really.
 

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Re: Very Near The Infallible Method & Consistent Profit Roulette system
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2016, 11:51:17 PM »
Yup same for me.
 

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Re: Very Near The Infallible Method & Consistent Profit Roulette system
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2016, 12:46:55 AM »

So, IMO if you equate this to a dozens style system you could miss dozens more than 16x in a row. Its happened to me on many occasions while working on systems here about a year ago. Ive personally seen it go 23x without hitting a dozen and the consensus Ive read here 26x is is about the max (although mentions of 31x are possible).

Glad you mentioned the sleeping dozen. I have tested the simple dozen for a whole year sometime ago. Yes it can go unseen  23X (very rare though), but during my testing the highest was 28X misses. And only one time in one year it went to 30X.
It is a great system as a side system. As you write down numbers and you track them for another system/s, if you came across a dozen or a column missing 17X+ of course you will take advantage of it.
Make sure you have the B/R to sustain 10 losses before a hit ( that is if it happens).  A roulette has a strange way of stretching a streak once you put your money on the table.
A much better and much faster way to play a single dozen is this:
Decide in advance the minimum number of consecutive misses for a dozen or column before you will start betting on it. Let's say 7 misses. As you walk around different roulettes, keep your eyes open for at least 7 misses. And stick with it. Ignore 6 misses, but by all means use 8X, 9X etc. (if you happened to observe them in a score board).
Then decide in advance how many progressive bets you will play.
4 bets, is pretty good.
Stop when you hit, and stop after 4 bets if no hit.
Then look for another similar situation.
I can guarantee you that running into 7 misses that become 11 misses (that means you lost all 4 bets), won't happen 3 times consecutively. Maybe 2 times in a row (though rare), but not 3.
This cycle 7 to 11, or any "misses +4 more "   won't repeat 3 or more times  in a row.
When I research a system, is not so much what happens after a designated trigger appears, but
the number of times CONSECUTIVE TRIGGERS can fail is my primary concern.
All systems where your entire B/R determines the limit of your progression have been found to fail.
Sooner or later.
Instead use shorter progressions, and rely on the fact that identical patterns don't happen. At least not as often as a single progression stretched to the end of the B/R.
Casinos love long progressions. 

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Re: Very Near The Infallible Method & Consistent Profit Roulette system
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2016, 01:55:43 AM »
I can guarantee you that running into 7 misses that become 11 misses (that means you lost all 4 bets), won't happen 3 times consecutively. Maybe 2 times in a row (though rare), but not 3.
This cycle 7 to 11, or any "misses +4 more "   won't repeat 3 or more times  in a row.

Interesting, thanks. I'll have to pull out my roulette folder when I get home later. I have a ton of data from live spins and interestingly enough, the 5-9th place seemed to be the most common along with 7-11... Ive noticed (if memory serves) once it goes past 12 misses.... its anyones guess going 16-22 most common from my spins.

I just dont have the time anymore for in person plays, limiting me to online betting (bitcoins) and although they say their site is "provably fair" (a randomizing technique) I'll have to disagree from some online losses :)

Controlling bankroll has been my problem from day one, no matter what system... any like you mentioned any system where you are progressively betting until you are betting large amounts is destined to failure. I will have too spend more time on betting 4x in a row and then stopping. I need to learn to stop.
 

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« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2016, 08:54:38 PM »
Palestis, Ive got to thank you on helping to limit my bankroll by not doing massive progressive bets. Ive been betting with only 4 progressions after a dozen has missed 4 times. So I place a bet on the 5th time doing a simple progression of: 3,5,7,11. With a bankroll of 1000 units, Im up 90 units in about an hour. This is pretty decent IMO. I never went below my 1000 starting point. I had only a few times where I didnt win on my progression.

I think I will adjust my progression to 2,3,4,6 and see how it goes. This reduces risk a bit more.