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##### im spins, 2in a row and games
« on: December 11, 2015, 10:55:30 AM »
been hinting towards a great system using columns but not getting to many bites hope some one can c where this is going I will answer q's

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##### Re: im spins, 2in a row and games
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2015, 02:07:27 PM »
Hmmm well if the odds are lower for a number to repeat than not, maybe you are focusing on a column with more of one color than another for an additional edge?

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##### Re: im spins, 2in a row and games
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2015, 04:04:20 PM »
been hinting towards a great system using columns but not getting to many bites hope some one can c where this is going I will answer q's
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Is your idea based on there being more of one colour in Columns 2 and 3 ?

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##### Re: im spins, 2in a row and games
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2015, 08:10:38 PM »
don't no y this works but bet every spin, after a red bet columns 1+3 and after a black bet columns 1+2 simple progression 1 1, 2 2, 6 6, 18 18, and so on, tested on live spins Dublin bet ,spielbank Wiesbaden archive and various others, tested overall 4000-5000, have not seen this go past progression 7 ,im not interested in maths behind it, just like some one to check a series of numbers and get back with results and thoughts thanks spins

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##### Re: im spins, 2in a row and games
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2015, 04:28:27 PM »
don't no y this works but bet every spin, after a red bet columns 1+3 and after a black bet columns 1+2 simple progression 1 1, 2 2, 6 6, 18 18, and so on, tested on live spins Dublin bet ,spielbank Wiesbaden archive and various others, tested overall 4000-5000, have not seen this go past progression 7 ,im not interested in maths behind it, just like some one to check a series of numbers and get back with results and thoughts thanks spins
So how large is your table bank for this ? I think you risk too much for so little reward. It does seem to be based on a majority colour in columns 2 and 3.
While I wouldn't recommend it if you have confidence in it - good luck.
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##### Re: im spins, 2in a row and games
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2015, 06:50:05 PM »
under 1000 still watching on Dublinbets live +demo spins on bet voyager rearly goes past 4 progression, with what ive seen so far I would be thousands in front so to get a loss at this point wouldn't matter

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##### Re: im spins, 2in a row and games
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2015, 06:56:02 PM »
u never bet columns 2+3, 1+3 after a red, 1+2 after a black obviously no bet after zero wait for next colour
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##### Re: im spins, 2in a row and games
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2015, 07:22:02 PM »
I could run it for you if you want to like 16M wins and see what the base statistics are.  At 66% chance, initial tests show a maximum in the progression of 128 (which assumes you have at least a 2.7% edge).  What is the table limit for the columns?

I don't believe the progression will hold because it is known that a single column can be expected to repeat for 16 times.  Then, when you factor in a 1 unit win rate versus a 256 or 512 etc. loss, things just go down hill.
« Last Edit: December 12, 2015, 07:37:01 PM by Reyth »

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##### Re: im spins, 2in a row and games
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2015, 08:04:54 PM »
im basing it on \$1min to \$500 max per column. 16 in one column can still be ok because this is based on colour  for example  33 30 15 15 6 9 18 15 21 30 30 33 36 12 first bet on 30 bet on black columns 1+2 loss, 15 loss, 15 loss, 6 loss, 9 loss, 18 win, 15 win, 21 loss, 30 win, 30 win, 36 win, 12 win, and so on u would have to get 8 blacks in a row from column 3 for it to fail,can u workout the odds of this occurring and also   if u can combined colour and column bets to test that would be great, if not u wont get a true reading or even just check out long series of numbers thanks for you're help spins
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##### Re: im spins, 2in a row and games
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2015, 08:11:41 PM »
Ok, so your progression is: 2 4 8 16 32 64 128 256 bust

I think the 0 is going to kill you unless that one color spin gives you a 2.7% edge.  So the question is, will the color angle save you?

If black is the previous spin you bet columns: 1,2
if red is the previous spin you bet columns: 1,3

Correct?

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##### Re: im spins, 2in a row and games
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2015, 08:15:43 PM »
columns correct progress on 1 column is 1 2 6 18 54 162 486 money back only win on consecutive wins 0 no prop check this out physically  I will be trying this during the week on land based auto machine unless u can prove its useless by showing real spins from any source
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##### Re: im spins, 2in a row and games
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2015, 09:54:16 PM »
486 on two columns is above the table limit of 500?

Simulated spins will show you what is statistically possible.

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##### Re: im spins, 2in a row and games
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2015, 10:26:14 PM »
columns correct progress on 1 column is 1 2 6 18 54 162 486 money back only win on consecutive wins 0 no prop check this out physically  I will be trying this during the week on land based auto machine unless u can prove its useless by showing real spins from any source
my advice is to ditch column 1 and bet only column 2 if Black was last show and Column 3 if red was last show .

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##### Re: im spins, 2in a row and games
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2015, 10:33:48 PM »
then you're back to 33/66% I think 66/33% seems a safer bet column 1 is like a anchor guaranteed win

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##### Re: im spins, 2in a row and games
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2015, 11:58:58 PM »
then you're back to 33/66% I think 66/33% seems a safer bet column 1 is like a anchor guaranteed win
My advice still stands- don't bet this for real. You risk far too much for too little.You need to consider the odds on offer as well as the Chance of winning. "Winning" does not always mean profit. You can win more  bets and still lose money .