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Reyth

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D'Alembert Avenue System
« on: December 08, 2015, 03:32:33 AM »
This one really boosts profit FAST!

I cannot take credit for it but in my initial testing I've taken just about 1000 units in about 15 minutes of playing time.  The originator of this system made over 18K in just a month, with real money and in an online casino.

Caution is required because this is a losing system (it is not a strategy) and so profits must be taken and the session cut short as soon as it is sensible.  Also, there is a small risk of not getting enough profit to justify ending the session or even not getting any profits at all.  So the goal is to win profit as a cushion and to always limit your session length with care.

The system was designed for a minimum of 500 units of session bankroll and to produce 50% session profit but I often find that to be too dangerous to suit my tastes, taking into account the risk involved.

So without further ado, I present to you my adaptation of:

                 


Ok so the first thing I do is spin the wheel 10 times and check the history board for the first street of numbers that has not shown:



So here we see that the street 10-11-12 fits the bill as below:



Now place a single unit to the left and right of this street as shown above.

Now as you might have guessed we are going to use the D'Alembert betting system which has been slightly modified to suit our bet selection.

When we lose we raise both bets 1 unit. 

If the street to the left or right of our D'Alembert Avenue comes up, we will earn 4 units for each unit in the pile that hit and so we then reduce BOTH the bets by 2 units.

When our main money maker, the wonderful D'Alembert Avenue comes up, we will earn 10 units for each unit in either pile. and so we then reduce BOTH the bets by 5 units.

How To Limit Our Session

The system was designed to keep betting until you hit 250 units of profit (50% profit) but I believe that is too risky, especially if we haven't won enough money to have an adequate cushion.  It was actually recommended to start with 1000-1500 units but the sessions are always 500 units until you have at least a 3000 unit bankroll; at that point you can start considering using 2 units as the raise amount.

What I do is track when each number hits by noting the bet amount (in a single pile) and the bankroll amount next to the number which hit.  Like such:

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10 3 1400
11 7 1434
12 3 1352/3 1376

7
8 4 1404
9

13
14
15

Bankroll: 1434
Target: 1578
Stop Loss: 828

Here we can see that the number 12 came in twice and both times the bet amount was at 3.  We can also see that I ended the session as soon as the number 11 came in.  I did this because all 3 D'Alembert Avenue numbers had hit and the profit was sufficient for my tastes; just over 100 units.

Thats what I do, I watch carefully which numbers have come in and if all 3 have hit I am likely to end it or if maybe 2 of them have hit and close to all of the "side streets" have hit, I might not want to wait for that last number and bail if I have enough profit.  I also will end sessions that have obviously gone south, like when D'Alembert Avenue barely makes a profit or doesn't even reach par and the chip pile is still high or when profit levels stagnate and just don't seem to "break through" to new highs after successive coups, that's like the dreaded "triple top" in stock investing, time to bail!

What I definitely do not recommend is a "I'm init to winnit" attitude where we keep betting even at 249 units simply because we must reach 250.  There is too much risk here to be betting blindly and just watching your session bankroll.

The system is designed for a 500 unit stop loss and so far I am following that.

Try this out, you will be AMAZED at how fast this makes you hundreds of units!

Check out Bullseye here: http://forum.roulette30.com/index.php?topic=648.msg8589#msg8589
« Last Edit: April 13, 2016, 10:06:44 PM by Reyth »


 
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Re: D'Alembert Avenue
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2015, 05:21:45 AM »
Reyth, how you choose which street to play?

Thanks
 

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Re: D'Alembert Avenue
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2015, 05:29:21 AM »
Reyth, how you choose which street to play?

Thanks

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Ok so the first thing I do is spin the wheel 10 times and check the history board for the first street of numbers that has not shown

Right now that's the method I am using. ; )

You can choose any way you want.  The originator of this system chooses his favorite "lucky" number and always plays it; I guess that would work if you are a big believer in personal permanence. :shrug: : D
 

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Re: D'Alembert Avenue
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2015, 05:30:13 AM »
Here is a report from a bust out session (this dragster is on fiya!):

4 3 595/14 569/23 417
5
6

1 1 561/10 591
2 18 441
3 19 403/25 379

7 2 571/1 599/4 603/14 479
8 3 557/1 565/20 381/22 313
9 13 559

Notice the bankroll amounts in red, all about the same profit area AND notice the chip levels running from 3 and then 10 and then 13 and then 14 -- the bankroll amounts are showing stagnation!  This was a clear warning that this is a losing session and I should of bailed on one of the red coups shown.  The profit never went above that initial hit on 4 with a bankroll of 595 and it tried and failed 3 times!

Those last two numbers never did come in, they were obviously deep sleepers.

The thing is, I had PLENTY of warning and I would of left with my bankroll intact on any of the red coups.

Another warning sign was ALL of the side streets filled in BEFORE the remaining D'Alembert Avenue streets which shows a serious problem.

I think what I am looking for is "good sessions" and there is no reason to risk on a "mediocre" session, especially when I have any profit.
« Last Edit: December 08, 2015, 08:56:18 AM by Reyth »
 

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Re: D'Alembert Avenue
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2015, 05:36:57 AM »
I don't think that many of readers understand numbers from your report.
Me included.

What is it saying: 4 3 595/14 569/23 417?!
 

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Re: D'Alembert Avenue
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2015, 05:41:46 AM »
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What I do is track when each number hits by noting the bet amount (in a single pile) and the bankroll amount next to the number which hit.

4,5,6 are the D'Alembert street.

1,2,3 and 7,8,9 are the side streets.

Those run down the left.

In your example, from left to right, a coup was taken with a bankroll of 595 with the chip levels at 3 (6 total chips).  This was followed later by a coup with a bankroll of 569 with the chip levels at 14 (28 total chips) which was then followed by a coup with a bankroll of 417 with the chip levels at 23 (46 total chips).
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Re: D'Alembert Avenue
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2015, 05:58:00 AM »
Thanks, it's a bit clearer now.
 

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Re: D'Alembert Avenue
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2015, 06:15:12 AM »
Thanks for asking, I'm sure you wouldn't have been alone! : D
 

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Re: D'Alembert Avenue
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2015, 08:53:10 AM »
Well I am pretty much done for the day just about tripled my bank in about 2.5 hours.

I did so VERY carefully because this system is like a jet fuel dragster, one slight misstep and it spins out of control...

 

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Re: D'Alembert Avenue
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2015, 01:22:09 PM »
To choice the street you can use the dobbelsteen triangel for the sreets. You give the streets the figures 1 to   12 .The sum of the last street with the street to bet must be 13. On this feature you can play a particular strategy.
 

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Re: D'Alembert Avenue
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2015, 05:26:45 PM »
Do tell! : D
 

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Re: D'Alembert Avenue
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2015, 07:39:05 PM »
Do tell! : D
Reyth
What Dobbelsteen seems to be  proposing is that if the last street was
1 then bet street 12
2 then bet street 11
3 then bet street 10
4 then bet street 9
5 then bet street 8
6 then bet street 7
7 then bet street 6
8 then bet street 5
9 then bet street 4
10 then bet street 3
11 then bet street 2
12 then bet street 1
I think you know that so . as you say, it would be interesting if dobbelsteen will tell us his strategy for betting.
THAT is the only interesting thing about his post as there is no advantage in the chosen streets.

 

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Re: D'Alembert Avenue
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2015, 08:25:55 PM »
Wow thanks for that.  It does seem on the surface to be meaningless, especially because it only relies on the last spin, unlike his 10-back strategy which does provide increased odds of success.

I am definitely looking for a better way to choose my D'Alembert Avenue.  I expect I will need to write analysis software to do this.
« Last Edit: December 08, 2015, 08:27:42 PM by Reyth »
 

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Re: D'Alembert Avenue
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2015, 11:00:16 PM »

3) When to unleash the rocket power and when to restrain it
4) We must risk to possibly earn but not risk senselessly; balance


COMING TO A FORUM NEAR YOU!

The Characteristics of a Good Session

1) Our numbers will repeat
2) We will achieve hits every 4-8 spins
3) Chip levels are low
4) We are in profit or close to it ("in the game")

We need to understand when we do NOT have a good session and be looking to end it.  Simply, we do not have to play bad sessions into the ground.  Its just not necessary because this method is a POWERHOUSE of profit and small losses are easily regained.

Session Elements

1) Chip levels
2) D'Alembert Avenue hits
3) Side street hits
4) Total number of un-hit numbers
5) Session bankroll status (profit or not)

All 5 elements go into our decision making regarding continuing or ending play.  These decisions are made according to personal preference and run from massively aggressive (play every session into a 50% win or a 500 unit loss) to massively conservative (scalp every profit & start a new session).

I prefer a balanced approach that combines focused aggression which is strictly limited by conservative profit taking so that risks are not taken needlessly and profit is not taken contrary to the "the spirit" of the system.  This system is designed to make massive profits in an incredibly short period of time but to allow that to happen, risks must be taken.  Towards this end, I have set up the following rules:

1) Don't continue a session once all 3 D'Alembert numbers have hit

2) Discontinue a session where there are less than 5 un-hit total numbers

EXCEPTIONS

1) There is at least 1 D'Alembert number left to fill
2) Profit has not yet been achieved

In both cases, chip levels must be very low.  Sometimes a session doesn't accomplish its goals like it normally would.  There is nothing wrong with ending it with a small loss so we can start a good session where profits are earned with a minimal amount of risk.

3) Discontinue a session where 5 side street numbers have come in  

« Last Edit: December 09, 2015, 06:02:38 AM by Reyth »
 

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Re: D'Alembert Avenue
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2015, 12:31:28 AM »


The streets analysis program has arrived!  Choose the lowest number in cyan for the best D'Alembert Avenue  (the center street of the 3).  Use the lowest number in red as a "tie-breaker".  Here street 25-26-27 is indicated so we bet one DS to the left and right of that street.

I demonstrate how I now use this analysis software to run one long continuous session:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3hk6kr_capture-wed-dec-09-19-40-28_videogames
« Last Edit: December 10, 2015, 04:37:35 AM by Reyth »