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#### DrTalos

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##### Holy grail. A word of encouragement.
« on: November 06, 2015, 04:57:49 PM »
Just to let you know, the system do exist.
And, to be honest, I think there are more than one. The only problem is that you can't find a winning system on sale, for easy to understandable reasons.
I worked on mine for more than 25 years. I had lost a lot of money during the process, and I studied a lot of math. Roulette is not a probabilties game (you play too few shots for the rules of chances to be involved). It is just math, plain and simple.
So to avoid any further question, I will not explain the system (why I should?) and I will not sell it (I gain enough to have no need of selling it), so my meaning here is to push you all to keep your studies and your efforts straight towards the desired Eden. I repeat, it is real.
I had read a lot of interesting posts here. Some people look at the tree missing the forest, while other have a very "hippies" approach (magical relationship between numbers, power of the dealer, this sort of craps), so I encourage you to go back in matemathics and forget "hot" and "cold" numbers, or sectors, and handle just the money you got as a bankroll. That is the key. After all "Martingale" is a winnng system, if it wasn't for the table limit and the need of a huge bankroll to win a very small amount of money. I guess I already said too much.
Good work to all, and thank you for keeping this forum so amusing.

(I am not an English mothertongue, so forgive my mistakes)

#### Reyth

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##### Re: Holy grail. A word of encouragement.
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2015, 05:37:55 PM »
Awesome post!  Thanks very much for sharing!  Yes it seems, if nothing else, that we have fun posting! : D

#### Trilobite

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##### Re: Holy grail. A word of encouragement.
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2015, 07:04:13 AM »
Good for you DrTalos.

I have my winning way too, so you are right to say there is more than one possible avenue to succeed.

Funny thing is, my way has nothing to do with managing the bankroll. As long as the bankroll is big enough in proportion to the risk of ruin, it will take care of itself.

The most important thing for serious players with an edge is non-detection....

#### Real

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##### Re: Holy grail. A word of encouragement.
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2015, 08:17:56 AM »
What a load of bunk!

#### Trilobite

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##### Re: Holy grail. A word of encouragement.
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2015, 08:53:48 AM »
What a load of bunk!

From wiki...

In 1820, Felix Walker, who represented Buncombe County, in the U.S. House of Representatives, rose to address the question of admitting Missouri as a free or slave state. This was his first attempt to speak on this subject after nearly a month of solid debate and right before the vote was to be called. Allegedly, to the exasperation of his colleagues, Walker insisted on delivering the long and wearisome speech. He explained that he wasn't speaking to congress, but "to Buncombe." He was shouted down by his colleagues. His persistent effort made "buncombe" (later respelled "bunkum") a synonym for meaningless political claptrap and later for any kind of nonsense.
The term then became “bunk”,  a joke and metaphor in Washington, which then entered common usage.
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#### Real

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##### Re: Holy grail. A word of encouragement.
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2015, 09:12:52 AM »
My point is the original poster is full of shist.  Lol!

#### Trilobite

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##### Re: Holy grail. A word of encouragement.
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2015, 09:13:05 AM »

The most important thing for serious players with an edge is non-detection....

Is this bit bunk?

#### Mike

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##### Re: Holy grail. A word of encouragement.
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2015, 09:37:38 AM »
I will not explain the system (why I should?)

Because if you do, we will know it's bunk.

Contrary to popular belief, invisible unicorns exist. How do I know they're invisible? because I can't see them.

#### Trilobite

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##### Re: Holy grail. A word of encouragement.
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2015, 09:47:36 AM »
... I can see angels

#### DrTalos

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##### Re: Holy grail. A word of encouragement.
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2015, 12:47:45 PM »
I don't care if you believe it or not. You don't know me and I don't know you, so I cannot see the meaning of patting myself on the back with people that are completely strangers to me.
I wrote it for the good guys among you that are trying and sometime feels sad because they crash on a wall of bricks when their system fail, and they read, in places like this, they are chasing a unicorn. I would like to remember them that even human flight was impossible till someone did it. In the world there are two kinds of people, the ones who thinks impossible is just another word to say hard, and the ones who say 'I don't believe it' because they cannot stand they are wrong.
I will not explain my system because I can't understand why someone has to have for nothing what I spent a life to achieve. I do have enough curious during my game sessions, "discreetely" walking behind me in order to understand why I am not losing at the roulette, to ask for more.
My system gains 0,25 a shot on average, the bankroll needed is a lot less then 1000 units, and the longest game has been around 90 spins (I do my calculation without writing down outcomes, so cannot be accurate on that). The average game lasts five spins.

I repeat, I don't care about your opinion. What I do care is to encourage someone in this chase. I am sure that anyone with a very good system doesn't share it. I played in Europe, in USA and in Australia, on boats and on land, and sometimes I saw people play with a system that looks like a winning one, and they had a confidence that I recognized (never a sign of impatience, not an eyebrown rised when a strange situation occurred on the wheel, like the same number six times in a row, and so on and so forth), so I am quite sure I am not the only one.
I studied Pointcarè, Riemann, and many more, then I found a well known system that was a good one. I worked hard to perfect it, and I did. End of story.
Now, because haters gonna hate, I will be amused by the next replies...

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#### Real

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##### Re: Holy grail. A word of encouragement.
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2015, 02:48:49 PM »
We don't care if you've played it on a boat with a goat, or on land, while eating green eggs and ham!

You're still full of shist.

Furthermore. 25 unit per spin sucks if you're trying to play for a living.

#### DrTalos

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##### Re: Holy grail. A word of encouragement.
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2015, 03:10:51 PM »
You are the one that spit sentences on everyone else, I see.
I said, on average I gain 0.25 per spin, that means that in 4 spins I gain one unit. Who said 25 unit per spin? I play an average of two days a week (you know, I have a family and I love to spend time with them) and I stay at the casino for 8/10 hours each day. I eat, go to the bathroom, walk, grab a coffee... So playing time is around seven hours.
I play with machines (roulette tables are too slow) so I see 200 spin an hour, that means fifty units. Moltiply by 7 are 350 units. Machines allows 1, 2, or 5\$ units, so I think you can do the rest of the math.
I will became rich? I don't care. I have enough, now. If I'd found this in my twenties, probably I would move inside the casino, with a tent, but I am a lot older, so I am happy with this amount.

#### Mike

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##### Re: Holy grail. A word of encouragement.
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2015, 03:58:38 PM »
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I would like to remember them that even human flight was impossible till someone did it.

I've lost count of the number of times this has been trotted out to give people hope that there really is a winning system out there to be found. Yes, it was once thought that human flight is impossible, but that doesn't mean that it's possible even in principle to multiply a negative number by a positive one and end up with a positive.

I'm reminded of the prayer:

God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.

I think you guys should be doing a lot more praying, LOL.

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##### Re: Holy grail. A word of encouragement.
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2015, 05:56:29 PM »
Maybe we should buy Drtalos a puppy so that he can get the attention that he feels he needs.

#### Harryj

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##### Re: Holy grail. A word of encouragement.
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2015, 06:24:25 PM »
Let metry a new one on you Mike.

The 4 minute mile was considered impossible. Then Roger Bannister did it. Now any mid distance runner that can't beat 4 minutes is considered a has been.
People are strange that way. If they believe something is impossible, like you guys, they give up trying.

Thanks for posting Dr Talos, everyone needs encouragement.

Harry