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Amadeo

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I have a big doubt
« on: November 02, 2015, 10:46:33 AM »
is it posible that WH online is comiting fraud on us with their RNG?? because something strange is happening... since I started with a new system I won around 2K euros... but the all the mathematical y statistic expectations changed on a wide level .... since for example number 3 had a maximum interval of 400 on 6000 spins it grew to more than 800 ... on the next 2000 spins .... it seems to me theire manipulating their RNG is that posible ?


 

Reyth

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Re: I have a big doubt
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2015, 12:55:29 PM »
I know Dobble plays alot on WH...
 

Amadeo

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Re: I have a big doubt
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2015, 02:46:19 PM »
what do you mean?
 

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Re: I have a big doubt
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2015, 02:51:31 PM »
Dobblesteen is a well known and regarded user on this forum.  He plays alot on WH and I thought to myself that he would be a good person to ask about this as he has also studied both short run and long run spin theory.
« Last Edit: November 02, 2015, 02:56:09 PM by Reyth »
 

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Re: I have a big doubt
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2015, 08:22:52 AM »
WH does get quite a few complaints although it's usually from people who play their live wheels. Do you mean there were 800 spins when a number didn't show up?

That's getting on for 5 standard deviations so very rare, but not impossible. However, if it happens quite frequently then I would look for another OC. In my view playing RNG is a bad idea, period.
 

Amadeo

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Re: I have a big doubt
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2015, 10:49:54 AM »
any online casino we play is RNG even the live wheels are RNG controled so it makes no diference...
I know its possible to have an interval of 4-5-6-7 even 900 spins without a number showing up... but whats not so normal is that it happens 2 times in row
 

dobbelsteen

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Re: I have a big doubt
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2015, 10:53:14 AM »
The best method to test the software of an internet casino is a statistic proof with an even chance. I have also the experience that strange events occur to often. You need a long run sample more than 150 spins. They shall always tell you, it is the variance. The zero
shall be the devil.
Micro Gaming, Netent and Novomatic caim all true RNGs.

A true roulette wheel is also a true RNG !!
« Last Edit: November 03, 2015, 10:55:01 AM by dobbelsteen »
 

Amadeo

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Re: I have a big doubt
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2015, 11:36:27 AM »
i will keep everybody up to date, as soon as spin has some time to programe the mission i gave him i will test and let you all know whats happening, but for now ....WH seems to manipulate the numbers but I'll try to proof this
 

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Re: I have a big doubt
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2015, 12:10:53 PM »
any online casino we play is RNG even the live wheels are RNG controled so it makes no diference...


So you're saying that live wheels are "controlled" by RNG?  What does that mean? If you think they are all cheating then why play at any online casino?
 

Amadeo

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Re: I have a big doubt
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2015, 12:32:47 PM »
Others don't cheat or it doesnt seem so, but unfortunatly i have to play on WH because its the only supported casino for RX-Bot in spain.

The RNG thing is that if you play at WH on live roullete casiopeya or i cant remember the other name you can read on the terms and conditions "Live roulette game based on RNG simulation, authorized by the DGOJ spanish authorities for gaming"
 

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Re: I have a big doubt
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2015, 09:17:52 AM »
There are many methods to manipulate everything on internet even so called live roulette.In the Netherlands we have  the Chance Game Authority. They have the tools to controle the gaming industry