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Sainter

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Help jumping from Red to black
« on: October 16, 2015, 10:22:00 PM »
I am currently looking through some past results to try and reverse engineer some indicators about when to switch from red to black as black becomes the dominate result over a small period of spins.

When looking at the results as a whole, these periods are easy to identify in hindsight.

I have tried comparing appearances over past spins for multiple lengths of spins with out much success. I am hoping someone might give me some fresh ideas to investigate.


 
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Re: Help jumping from Red to black
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2015, 08:57:45 AM »
It is extremely hard to identify patterns or conditions that would offer 100% success rate.
The better approach would be to identify some patterns, define their success rate and then use or create a system (progression) that can deal with this success rate.

Example
Identify a condition:
IF
(A) a color has appeared 2 times or less in 10 spins
THEN
(B) it will appear at least once in the next 3 spins

We can never have 100% certainty, so let's say that (B) happens 90% of the time (9/10 success rate)

Now we have to devise the appropriate betting plan to overcome any losses.
 
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Re: Help jumping from Red to black
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2015, 10:55:12 AM »
Systems for small run sessions has the feature and the certainty it can give a profit or a loss.
The triangel of Blaise Pascal is a very useful tool for the even chances. See my explanation in other threads of this forum.
 
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Re: Help jumping from Red to black
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2015, 08:58:58 AM »
Keep it tight when switching.
A switch from black to red is as valid as a switch from red to black, but for your example let’s stick with a switch to black.

Chart a row for red and a row for black:

R          B

After each spin put an X under R or B:

R          B
X          X

Continue to put an X under R or B until R has 4X’s and B has 3 or less X’s:

R          B
X          X
X          X
X
X

From here, each time red shows put an X under R and strike out the first X for R & B. This way there will only ever be 4X’s under R:

R          B
X          X
X          X
X
X
X

Continue to put an X under R or B striking out the first rows each time red shows until B catches up and they both have 4 X's:

R          B
X          X
X          X
X          X
X          X
X          X
X          X
X          X

Now that both R & B are equal with 4 X’s strike out the first row:

R          B
X          X
X          X
X          X
X          X

If black shows next we have the switch and each time black has 4 X’s while red has 3 or less we can bet on black.

R          B
X          X
X          X
X          X
            X

From here, each time black shows put an X under B and strike out the first X for R & B. This way there will only ever be 4X’s under B and we can continue to bet black until red catches up which could result in a switch to red if you want.

R          B
X          X
X          X
X          X
X          X
            X

This is a simple bet/switch formula that can be a very effective foundation for an EC system.
Of course you can add in all the EC’s for more action and complexity. In fact I recommend it because when tracking all the EC's this method can really pin point a strong dominance.

You could play around with the length of the rows, but from my research this length is ideal.

Hope this helps,
Good luck Sainter!
« Last Edit: October 18, 2015, 09:28:51 AM by Trilobite »
 
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Re: Help jumping from Red to black
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2015, 10:05:17 AM »
If you are familar with graphs , this analyse can learn you a lot.

The recording of Trilobite is very useful when you play real roulette.

The most systems and strategies are based on this method.
 

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Re: Help jumping from Red to black
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2015, 10:40:48 AM »

 Trilobite very nice method ,,, thanks ...
 

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Re: Help jumping from Red to black
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2015, 10:41:34 AM »
Thanks Trilobite, this is a new idea for me. I will do some testing and I appreciate that it will not be perfect but if it can improve results by a couple of percentage points then that will be a win.

dobbelstein- can you point me to the Blaise Pascal thread mentioned, I did a quick search and couldn't find it
 
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Re: Help jumping from Red to black
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2015, 12:09:44 PM »
Sainter you can find an explanation on page 1 of dobbelsteens blog.In the blog you can learn the basic for systems and stragegies

I tryed to past the graph but the pastfunction doesnot work.Now I use windows 10 and perhaps window is the caution.My opponents are not every time enthousiast about my theory.
 
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