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Sputnik

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Gambling Theory
« on: October 05, 2015, 12:44:03 PM »
Lets say i track the first 24 numbers that hit, then i wait for the first 12 sleeping numbers to hit once and then bet all 24 numbers.

Now do i have 24 numbers contra 12 numbers or 24 numbers contra 3 numbers.
Assume i use sectors with three numbers.
I don't know for how long or how many numbers will sleep, but i know that all 12 numbers will not show direct after 24 hitting numbers, that would be very extreme.
When i simulate this i get sleeping numbers all the time.

So does this mean that we always are better of betting what has a show then betting sleepers.
Because if we bet does numbers that has a hit we will not face true odds like 24 numbers contra 12 numbers.

Example ...
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6
6
9
5
2
6
5
2
2
5
1
11
3
8

 - - -

9  W
9  W
9  W
11 W
2  W
3  W
9  W
8  W
11 W
12 L
9  W 24 NUMBERS CONTRA 3 NUMBERS
3  W
3  W
10 L
11 W 24 NUMBERS CONTRA 6 NUMBERS
11 W
3  W
6  W
4  L
12 L 24 NUMBERS CONTRA 6 NUMBERS
5  W
2  W
10 L
3  W 24 NUMBERS CONTRA 6 NUMBERS
1  W
2  W
5  W
8  W
2  W
2  W
8  W
4  L
9  W 24 NUMBERS CONTRA 9 NUMBERS
8  W
6  W
11 W
2  W
10 L
9  W 24 NUMBERS CONTRA 9 NUMBERS
10 L
9  W 24 NUMBERS CONTRA 9 NUMBERS
11 W
5  W
4  L
7  L
5  W 24 NUMBERS CONTRA 12 NUMBERS

- - -












10

4
7
1
2

- - -

6  W
4  W
3  W
7  W
7  W
8  L
5  W 24 NUMBERS CONTRA 3 NUMBERS
2  W
4  W
10 L
2  W 24 NUMBERS CONTRA 6 NUMBERS
2  W
7  W
7  W
9  W
11 L
7  W 24 NUMBERS CONTRA 9 NUMBERS
4  W
1  W
10 L
11 L
7  W 24 NUMBERS CONTRA 9 NUMBERS
8  L
10 L
4  W 24 NUMBERS CONTRA 9 NUMBERS
8  L
4  W 24 NUMBERS CONTRA 9 NUMBERS
5  W
9  W
10 L
1  W 24 NUMBERS CONTRA 9 NUMBERS
1  W
2  W
8  L
10 L
6  W 24 NUMBERS CONTRA 9 NUMBERS
8  L
3  W 24 NUMBERS CONTRA 9 NUMBERS
6  W
2  W
3  W
9  W
1  W
2  W
5  W
10 L
2  W 24 NUMBERS CONTRA 9 NUMBERS
4  W
12 L
7  W 24 NUMBERS CONTRA 12 NUMBERS

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« Last Edit: October 05, 2015, 12:47:00 PM by Sputnik »


 

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Re: Gambling Theory
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2015, 02:51:02 PM »
Really i not understand at all what you want to say - what you trac, what you bet and when you win ....
In roulette all is super simple - you know, or not know where ball will land - if you know -  you are winner - if not - you are looser....
 

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Re: Gambling Theory
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2015, 03:03:06 PM »
 That is true.
 The only way to win is with physics.

 Why you tell me what i already know?

I am not trying to build system i ask if the odds is the same even if part of number will sleep - so would you still face all 12 - in real life no - you would face less.

Cheers

« Last Edit: October 05, 2015, 03:05:48 PM by Sputnik »
 

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Re: Gambling Theory
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2015, 03:20:48 PM »
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i ask if the odds is the same even if part of number will sleep - so would you still face all 12 - in real life no - you would face less.
If you not know where ball will land - odds in roulette are always that same  -1/37 not to your favour....
I think that must know all....
« Last Edit: October 05, 2015, 03:23:15 PM by Bebediktus »
 

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Re: Gambling Theory
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2015, 04:20:34 PM »
I wish you guys would  stop  banging on about the physics of the wheel being the only way to beat roulette.
Yes. You can beat the odds against you  by using your ideas BUT ONLY IF YOU CAN ACTUALLY PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH.  I say you cannot , so prove me wrong !
 

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Re: Gambling Theory
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2015, 05:21:26 PM »
Hey Sputnik!

I have been very short of free time lately but when I read your post I got inspired.  Unfortunately I cannot tinker with the numbers right now but I think your concept is awesome!  I think there is room for some exploration of this concept to see (for instance) what the odds are of actually getting all 12 sleepers after 24 numbers hit and branch further explorations/investigations from what we learn there.

I think this is an awesome idea!
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Re: Gambling Theory
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2015, 05:28:33 PM »
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Yes. You can beat the odds against you  by using your ideas BUT ONLY IF YOU CAN ACTUALLY PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH.  I say you cannot , so prove me wrong !
Scepticus i think you are camel  .  If you say NO, then prove me that i am wrong !
 

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Re: Gambling Theory
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2015, 08:15:14 PM »
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Yes. You can beat the odds against you  by using your ideas BUT ONLY IF YOU CAN ACTUALLY PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH.  I say you cannot , so prove me wrong !
Scepticus i think you are camel  .  If you say NO, then prove me that i am wrong !
I can easily prove that I am not a camel but you cannot prove that you can actually win using your idea of the wheel .
Stop the abuse and  use a rational argument instead .
 

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Re: Gambling Theory
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2015, 08:37:42 PM »
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Yes. You can beat the odds against you  by using your ideas BUT ONLY IF YOU CAN ACTUALLY PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH.  I say you cannot , so prove me wrong !
Scepticus i think you are camel  .  If you say NO, then prove me that i am wrong !
I can easily prove that I am not a camel but you cannot prove that you can actually win using your idea of the wheel .
Stop the abuse and  use a rational argument instead .

   It is not our task to prove you wrong. It is your task to prove you are right !

    The forum awaits with bated breath !

     Harry
 

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Re: Gambling Theory
« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2015, 09:26:58 PM »
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It is not our task to prove you wrong. It is your task to prove you are right !

    The forum awaits with bated breath !

     Harry
So who is wrong who is right ?

here is what i say :

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If you not know where ball will land - odds in roulette are always that same  -1/37 not to your favour....

Is that wrong ?
 

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Re: Gambling Theory
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2015, 09:47:53 PM »
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It is not our task to prove you wrong. It is your task to prove you are right !

    The forum awaits with bated breath !

     Harry
So who is wrong who is right ?

here is what i say :

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If you not know where ball will land - odds in roulette are always that same  -1/37 not to your favour....

Is that wrong ?
Nothing wrong with knowing where the ball will land. That's every player's dream.
What is terribly wrong is to keep mentioning it, without the necessary proof to back it up. What you are saying has 0 value, unless you can prove it.
You compare an open source system to a "ghost" system. if you got the medicine that cures baldness, it does nothing unless you come out and use it
 

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Re: Gambling Theory
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2015, 10:02:00 PM »
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What is terribly wrong is to keep mentioning it, without the necessary proof to back it up.
What here at least something say what have at least some practical value ? . Every bet in roulte have the same value -2,7% And that will be till you not know where ball will land. And to know that you must lear at least some ABC of VB or at least go back to XX class and repeat something about physics. Ball land not where it want are some forces which push him land in one or other place and these forces are known - so here is no big mystick to calculate where ball will land. Other question how to do that fast and in casino, but also here are some solutions....
« Last Edit: October 06, 2015, 05:59:45 AM by kav »
 

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Re: Gambling Theory
« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2015, 02:59:36 AM »
With each successive color in a row, the odds become increasingly smaller that it will continue to repeat until I can no longer demonstrate any more repeats even after multiple quadrillions of spins.