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palestis

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Novomatic Admiral panther II
« on: September 30, 2015, 01:21:32 AM »
Does anybody have any info on how this machine works?
It's a single player physical movement roulette. The player starts the spin by pushing a button or pulling a spring loaded bolt. Real wheel turning, real ball spinning. Only the betting is electronic


 

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Re: Novomatic Admiral panther II
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2015, 02:46:38 AM »
no idea Palestis.
I have seen one called "Pinball roulette " and works much the same as you illustrated .
The wheel keeps turning fairly slowly  but I don't know if it speeds up if someone is actually betting.
Seems made for our AP friends !
 

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Re: Novomatic Admiral panther II
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2015, 11:43:48 AM »
no idea Palestis.
I have seen one called "Pinball roulette " and works much the same as you illustrated .
The wheel keeps turning fairly slowly  but I don't know if it speeds up if someone is actually betting.
Seems made for our AP friends !
Actually I was told that the wheel spins very fast and the ball spins according to how far you pull and let the bolt go. Also you can't place bets after you push the spin button, or use the bolt action.
Definitely not a machine for AP or VB.
Actually Mr. KAV. can go and see it and he can tell us what he thinks. There are 2 of those machines in a casino up the mountain near where he lives.
 

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Re: Novomatic Admiral panther II
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2015, 03:10:06 PM »
'' the ball spins according to how far you pull and let the bolt go'' - Palestis.

Whoever told you that Palestis was wrong. I suppose that's the illusion they want you to have because then it makes it feel like you are in control of the game.  I quite like them because it certainly gives you that extra bit of time to make sure you get all your bets down.  The only negative is you have to place a bet to produce a number unlike where you can sit and watch what is unfolding on one of the live tables. Still it's not really a problem where I play considering you can place a 0.10p chip and get a spin. Another thing I like about them is that they don't pull out the manoeuvres that some of these new airball machines produce. The ball just drops 'dead' into a pocket for the most part.
 

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Re: Novomatic Admiral panther II
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2015, 03:53:19 PM »
i just want to point out that novomatic machines generally its very hard to beat .....in my country has  a lot of those machines , they are the first that they use true rng!! better avoid , back in time was tab austria[nowdays novomatic] , and i ve beat em ,but from then ,its been long time , i asssume they re pissed off of that ! and create unbeatable programs!
 

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Re: Novomatic Admiral panther II
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2015, 05:04:25 PM »
Shame on you Palestis ! You should know by this time that an AP can CONQUER THE WORLD  !
 

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Re: Novomatic Admiral panther II
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2015, 01:24:26 AM »
'' the ball spins according to how far you pull and let the bolt go'' - Palestis.

Whoever told you that Palestis was wrong. I suppose that's the illusion they want you to have because then it makes it feel like you are in control of the game.  I quite like them because it certainly gives you that extra bit of time to make sure you get all your bets down.  The only negative is you have to place a bet to produce a number unlike where you can sit and watch what is unfolding on one of the live tables. Still it's not really a problem where I play considering you can place a 0.10p chip and get a spin. Another thing I like about them is that they don't pull out the manoeuvres that some of these new airball machines produce. The ball just drops 'dead' into a pocket for the most part.
They also said that there is a few seconds delay from the time you push the start button, or release the bolt. So the bolt action is probably cosmetic. As far as having numbers to work with, they have past spun numbers and some statistics. Does the ball dropping dead into the pocket look like a magnet pulled it, or does it land smoothly?
 

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Re: Novomatic Admiral panther II
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2015, 02:03:13 AM »
'' the ball spins according to how far you pull and let the bolt go'' - Palestis.

Whoever told you that Palestis was wrong. I suppose that's the illusion they want you to have because then it makes it feel like you are in control of the game.  I quite like them because it certainly gives you that extra bit of time to make sure you get all your bets down.  The only negative is you have to place a bet to produce a number unlike where you can sit and watch what is unfolding on one of the live tables. Still it's not really a problem where I play considering you can place a 0.10p chip and get a spin. Another thing I like about them is that they don't pull out the manoeuvres that some of these new airball machines produce. The ball just drops 'dead' into a pocket for the most part.
They also said that there is a few seconds delay from the time you push the start button, or release the bolt. So the bolt action is probably cosmetic. As far as having numbers to work with, they have past spun numbers and some statistics. Does the ball dropping dead into the pocket look like a magnet pulled it, or does it land smoothly?

If I remember I'll give it a try at the week-end when next I go to the casino but to me it seems more suitable for an  amusement arcade !
 

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Re: Novomatic Admiral panther II
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2015, 09:20:32 AM »
Palestis, it certainly doesn't appear that a magnet is in operation. I never got a bad feeling regarding these machines  and I played one frequently at the beginning of this year.
 

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Re: Novomatic Admiral panther II
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2015, 01:19:47 PM »
'' the ball spins according to how far you pull and let the bolt go'' - Palestis.

Whoever told you that Palestis was wrong. I suppose that's the illusion they want you to have because then it makes it feel like you are in control of the game.  I quite like them because it certainly gives you that extra bit of time to make sure you get all your bets down.  The only negative is you have to place a bet to produce a number unlike where you can sit and watch what is unfolding on one of the live tables. Still it's not really a problem where I play considering you can place a 0.10p chip and get a spin. Another thing I like about them is that they don't pull out the manoeuvres that some of these new airball machines produce. The ball just drops 'dead' into a pocket for the most part.
They also said that there is a few seconds delay from the time you push the start button, or release the bolt. So the bolt action is probably cosmetic. As far as having numbers to work with, they have past spun numbers and some statistics. Does the ball dropping dead into the pocket look like a magnet pulled it, or does it land smoothly?

If I remember I'll give it a try at the week-end when next I go to the casino but to me it seems more suitable for an  amusement arcade !
So they are available in your local casino? I was just inquiring about them to find out if they are similar in operation with the air ball machines. I didn't think that casinos would have them  if they are easier to win.
 

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Re: Novomatic Admiral panther II
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2015, 01:23:37 PM »
Palestis, it certainly doesn't appear that a magnet is in operation. I never got a bad feeling regarding these machines  and I played one frequently at the beginning of this year.
So what is your overall opinion about them? As they compare to other auto roulettes or even live ones. Is their a noticeable difference?
 

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Re: Novomatic Admiral panther II
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2015, 02:07:01 PM »
They play just like a live wheel in my opinion with the added bonus that you can control the speed of your own game and not have it dictated by the croupier. I did have the operation manual for these machines on my old pc. It's out there if you do a search for it. To be perfectly honest, I don't think it really matters if you play live, different types of automatic/airball roulette or a fair RNG. None of them are easier than any other to beat and of course the casino still have the mathematical advantage.  I never lost a session on one of these types (admiral panther) and prefer them to those new airball machines where the ball looks like it is made out of some type of rubber and bounces and skips around like crazy. Mind you, that's just a personal preference I suppose. I don't play it that often because there is only one of these type of machines in the whole of the city where I normally play and there is usually someone already playing on it where as before it was always available when they first appeared.
 

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Re: Novomatic Admiral panther II
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2015, 06:24:25 AM »
no idea Palestis.
I have seen one called "Pinball roulette " and works much the same as you illustrated .
The wheel keeps turning fairly slowly  but I don't know if it speeds up if someone is actually betting.
Seems made for our AP friends !
Actually I was told that the wheel spins very fast and the ball spins according to how far you pull and let the bolt go. Also you can't place bets after you push the spin button, or use the bolt action.
Definitely not a machine for AP or VB.
Actually Mr. KAV. can go and see it and he can tell us what he thinks. There are 2 of those machines in a casino up the mountain near where he lives.

Hi Pal,

I will tell you one think: I have never played seriously in any machine except physical wheels. They just don't feel right. Are you referring to the airball roulette in Parnes or something different?
 

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Re: Novomatic Admiral panther II
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2015, 08:43:30 AM »
no idea Palestis.
I have seen one called "Pinball roulette " and works much the same as you illustrated .
The wheel keeps turning fairly slowly  but I don't know if it speeds up if someone is actually betting.
Seems made for our AP friends !
Actually I was told that the wheel spins very fast and the ball spins according to how far you pull and let the bolt go. Also you can't place bets after you push the spin button, or use the bolt action.
Definitely not a machine for AP or VB.
Actually Mr. KAV. can go and see it and he can tell us what he thinks. There are 2 of those machines in a casino up the mountain near where he lives.

Hi Pal,

I will tell you one think: I have never played seriously in any machine except physical wheels. They just don't feel right. Are you referring to the airball roulette in Parnes or something different?
I am aware of the airball machine in Parnes. It's been there for a few years. This one is a one player airball machine they just brought in recently. They have 2 of them. I was just curious about it, if it behaves differently than the traditional airball machines.
 

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Re: Novomatic Admiral panther II
« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2015, 04:27:39 AM »
no idea Palestis.
I have seen one called "Pinball roulette " and works much the same as you illustrated .
The wheel keeps turning fairly slowly  but I don't know if it speeds up if someone is actually betting.
Seems made for our AP friends !
Actually I was told that the wheel spins very fast and the ball spins according to how far you pull and let the bolt go. Also you can't place bets after you push the spin button, or use the bolt action.
Definitely not a machine for AP or VB.
Actually Mr. KAV. can go and see it and he can tell us what he thinks. There are 2 of those machines in a casino up the mountain near where he lives.
Tried the pinball roulette on my last  visit to the casino. Deposited  a fiver - and got 50 credits ! So each credit is worth 10p in sterling .
You can  bet only one 10p per spin if you wish.
This one 10p can be put  on any bet Dozen, Column . Even- Money Chance - whatever.
The wheel continually spins .Does NOT speed up very much  when bets are on. Seems to slow down just prior to the ball landing.
There is a small window just above the Bolt Pull which lights up when a bet is placed .
Looking  into this window I saw two small balls.
You cannot manipulate the handle by only pulling it a short distance - you must pull it to its full length .
There is not a strong push effect but the ball goes at a fair speed so I think that the Bolt -Pull  is not what starts the ball rolling - though , obviously I could be wrong here.
And I won 50p !
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