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Inside Streets By Zio
« on: June 26, 2015, 12:16:52 PM »
Inside Streets
by zio_Ninni

Hi everyone

I have been playing this system for a while now with great success. Rules are as follows:

1. every time a number hits, start betting on the other two numbers from the same street, ex. if #1 hits start betting on #2 and #3

2. continue adding numbers in this fashion after each spin

3. when you get a hit, proceed as follows:

3a. if profit is higher than 10 units, then reset and start again
3b. if profit is below 10 units then remove the two numbers from the street that just hit and add 1 unit to all the other numbers. Continue betting until profit is higher than 10 units
3c. if you get a second hit and still not in profit, remove the two numbers from the street that just hit, add another unit to all numbers and continue

Of course, you can reset at any profit, however I have been playing resetting on any profit higher than 10 units and a stop loss of 200 units.

Below is an example from live play:

Number spun--/ Amount bet-/ Amount won-/ Running total---/ Comments
25------------/ -------------/ --------------/ ----------------/ bet on 26 and 27
33------------/ -2 ----------/ --------------/ -2 ------------/ add 31 and 32
14------------/ -4 ----------/ --------------/ -6 -------------/ add 13 and 15
06------------/ -6 ----------/ --------------/ -12------------/ add 4 and 5
28------------/ -8 ----------/ --------------/ -20------------/ add 29 and 30
20------------/ -10 ---------/ --------------/ -30------------/ add 19 and 21
22------------/ -12 ---------/ --------------/ -42------------/ add 23 and 24
23------------/ -14 ---------/ 36 -----------/ -20------------/ remove 23 and 24 and add 1 unit to the rest
20------------/ -24 ---------/ --------------/ -44------------/ no numbers to add because 20 just repeated so we continue
32------------/ -24 ---------/ 72 -----------/ 4 ------------/ running total less than 10 unit so we continue, remove 31 and 32 and add 1 unit to all
5 ------------/ -30 ---------/ 108 -----------/ 82 ------------/ profit target exceeded, we reset

Hope this helps.

In live play so far I've had 37 sessions of which 36 won and 1 lost. Average session won: 30 units; session lost: -180. Current running profit: +916 units.

If you decide to use this method, best of luck!

zio_Ninni

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Stations      Chance To Hit
   1        0.02702702702702703
   2        0.05405405405405405
   3        0.08108108108108108
   4        0.1081081081081081
   5        0.1351351351351351
   6        0.1621621621621622
   7        0.1891891891891892
   8        0.2162162162162162
   9        0.2432432432432432
  10       0.2702702702702703
  11       0.2972972972972973
  12       0.3243243243243243
  13       0.3513513513513514
  14       0.3783783783783784
  15       0.4054054054054054
  16       0.4324324324324324
  17       0.4594594594594595
  18       0.4864864864864865
  19       0.5135135135135135
  20       0.5405405405405405
  21       0.5675675675675676
  22       0.5945945945945946
  23       0.6216216216216216
  24       0.6486486486486486
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Re: Inside Streets By Zio
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2015, 12:20:28 PM »
I have found there are downswings with the system.  So far 1000 units seems to be holding though.

This system has an amazing ability to massively recover and very quickly. 
 

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Re: Inside Streets By Zio
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2015, 02:33:36 PM »
Yeh! Just an other!
 

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Re: Inside Streets By Zio
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2015, 02:35:39 PM »
Streets
by zio_Ninni

Hi everyone

I have been playing this system for a while now with great success. Rules are as follows:

1. every time a number hits, start betting on the other two numbers from the same street, ex. if #1 hits start betting on #2 and #3

2. continue adding numbers in this fashion after each spin

3. when you get a hit, proceed as follows:

3a. if profit is higher than 10 units, then reset and start again
3b. if profit is below 10 units then remove the two numbers from the street that just hit and add 1 unit to all the other numbers. Continue betting until profit is higher than 10 units
3c. if you get a second hit and still not in profit, remove the two numbers from the street that just hit, add another unit to all numbers and continue

Of course, you can reset at any profit, however I have been playing resetting on any profit higher than 10 units and a stop loss of 200 units.

Below is an example from live play:

Number spun--/ Amount bet-/ Amount won-/ Running total---/ Comments
25------------/ -------------/ --------------/ ----------------/ bet on 26 and 27
33------------/ -2 ----------/ --------------/ -2 ------------/ add 31 and 32
14------------/ -4 ----------/ --------------/ -6 -------------/ add 13 and 15
06------------/ -6 ----------/ --------------/ -12------------/ add 4 and 5
28------------/ -8 ----------/ --------------/ -20------------/ add 29 and 30
20------------/ -10 ---------/ --------------/ -30------------/ add 19 and 21
22------------/ -12 ---------/ --------------/ -42------------/ add 23 and 24
23------------/ -14 ---------/ 36 -----------/ -20------------/ remove 23 and 24 and add 1 unit to the rest
20------------/ -24 ---------/ --------------/ -44------------/ no numbers to add because 20 just repeated so we continue
32------------/ -24 ---------/ 72 -----------/ 4 ------------/ running total less than 10 unit so we continue, remove 31 and 32 and add 1 unit to all
5 ------------/ -30 ---------/ 108 -----------/ 82 ------------/ profit target exceeded, we reset

Hope this helps.

In live play so far I've had 37 sessions of which 36 won and 1 lost. Average session won: 30 units; session lost: -180. Current running profit: +916 units.

If you decide to use this method, best of luck!

zio_Ninni

Thanks for posting this method! Just one question: After leaving a street according to 3b
(street 22-24 in the example), that street may come again later in our session.
Have we left that street completely - or should we bet inside it again after a later appearance?
 

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Re: Inside Streets By Zio
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2015, 03:01:04 PM »
Right.  We leave it completely until one of those 3 numbers appears again.  I thought this was a weakness but now I see the genius of it; taking some away to add some elsewhere -- like a balance. : )
 

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Re: Inside Streets By Zio
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2015, 04:50:10 PM »
Ok just noting here that had the worst downswing yet which was just over 1500 units.  So I guess at least a 1750 unit bankroll is required.  Had no problems recovering and generated 128 units profit.
 

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Re: Inside Streets By Zio
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2015, 11:01:27 PM »
Again a worse downstreak.  At least 2000 units necessary.  Of course there is always Zio's stop loss method of 200 units.
 

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Re: Inside Streets By Zio
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2015, 01:55:43 PM »
Again a worse downstreak.  At least 2000 units necessary.  Of course there is always Zio's stop loss method of 200 units.

In how many spins the worst downswing have occurred?
 

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Re: Inside Streets By Zio
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2015, 02:03:21 PM »
Less than 100.  I am sorry I haven't been tracking spins. : (
 

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Re: Inside Streets By Zio
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2015, 02:11:12 PM »
Less than 100.  I am sorry I haven't been tracking spins. : (

Really?! Seems it begun cracking to early! ::)
 

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Re: Inside Streets By Zio
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2015, 02:19:45 PM »
Less than 100.  I am sorry I haven't been tracking spins. : (

Really?! Seems it begun cracking to early! ::)

I mean that the downswing occurs in less than 100 spins for the set.  I am not performing official tests where I am tracking overall trends.

What happens is there are a large number of repeaters in a row that brings the bank balance down too low to easily provide recovery.

I haven't tested the stop loss system yet.
 

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Re: Inside Streets By Zio
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2015, 06:02:51 PM »
Initial tests show that the 200 unit stop loss seems well balanced, allowing for some number of loss spins.  I will continue to update about the stop loss now.
 

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Re: Inside Streets By Zio
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2015, 04:27:28 AM »
Ok, I believe I found a more efficient method of using this system that still maintains the amazing earning power.

Instead of walking out streets on the inside, betting the two un-hit stations per street, here we spin until we get 3 unique streets and then bet those streets from the outside, 1 unit.  If we hit, we remove the street and re-spin if necessary.  If we miss then we add 1 unit to each street and place a unit on the street that just hit.

It works better because we are only putting 1 unit per street instead of 2 which makes the bankroll requirements substantially lower.  It also removes the problem of repeaters because the entire street is being covered and so it is less vulnerable to large downswings.

As usual, if in profit start over with 3 unique street spins.

Weakness Modification: When placing new streets while established streets are already in place, make sure enough units are placed to at least generate a profit; e.g. the total bet is 30 units after raising.  On the new street you must place 3 units (33 payout) instead of just 1.
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Re: Inside Streets By Zio
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2015, 03:57:16 PM »
Keeping in mind the possibility of raising more than 1 unit on a loss to help the recovery process.
 

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Re: Inside Streets By Zio
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2015, 05:48:59 PM »
The one problem with this system that I cannot seem to wrap my head around (I am terrible at risk-money management), is the diminishing returns point of this system.  You get to a certain point and the gains just aren't re-gaining what they need to.  I have handled this in other systems by using a calculator.

Maybe that's the answer, use a calculator and raise 1 unit by default UNLESS the debt is too large and then raise by the amount necessary to gain profit.

This will of course increase the bankroll requirement substantially.