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What is a HG for you?
« on: June 14, 2015, 06:34:00 PM »
Have you ever consider what does it mean a HG?
If it's something clear for you,then automatically becomes harder to find it because the more specific the elements/qualities of a system/method the less options you have.
But fewer options is not necessarily bad,there a lot of bad options out there and whether you or someone else has to discard the most of them,otherwise you are getting lost inside the infinite chaos!
For today,I'd like to present you a system which claims to be the HG,several months ago I've requested to RX coded it and then test it extensively.
At a first glance seems promising,but I would not call it Holy Grail,however it's good with proper progression and stop limits.
I've tried it with flat bets,martingale and d'alembert,all of these in the programmed code.
Why don't you see for yourself what it could do for your bankroll?!


 

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Re: What is a HG for you?
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2015, 10:16:18 PM »
From my point of view the HG is an absolute winning system that beats the HE.

Only the unlimited Martingale method beat the HE  but not the EV.

Beating the roulette is not the same. Strategies can beat the roulette. You have beaten the roulette when you played a winning session.
 

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Re: What is a HG for you?
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2015, 11:25:52 PM »
dobbel - Do you take HE to be the House Edge and the EV to be Expected Value ?
 

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Re: What is a HG for you?
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2015, 11:13:29 PM »
house edge and expected value are not the same  The house edge of the FR can vary between 1,35 and 2,7. The EV is 2,7 .Look for EV in the Wikipedia.
For system and strategy players HE and EV  are not interesting They belong to the roulette theory not the practise.
 

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Re: What is a HG for you?
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2018, 09:24:51 PM »
A thought provoking question that somehow hit a sandbank.

We can not talk of or even mention the word holy grail without having a clearly defined and unanimously accepted definition of the roulette holy grail.

This definition will differ between player types but I think it is referenced to system play only. It is for this reason that the claim of roulette being an unbeatable game became an accepted norm. There is no system that will continuously win. At the first loss the system will have failed the holy grail test.

As stated, holy grail has a different meaning to different player types and I think to different players within a player type as well.

I see the holy grail as a holistic approach that is a long term winner. Let me explain: 1. Holistic approach is your game play that included several systems and strategies. These are the basic tools to generate wins. Money management, bet selection, progressions and most importantly the game/session plan that incorporates all the above elements will make up the "holistic" approach. 2. Long term winner: simply means the accumulation of winning games/sessions over a predetermined period of time where the total wins are equal to or greater than the planned and recorded target wins.

Looking at a roulette grail in this way makes sense as it is attainable to all serious and committed players.
I do anticipate being shot down for my views, however, I welcome all opinions that may help to clarify and define the roulette holy grail.