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The Holy Grail Of Patience
« on: May 13, 2015, 10:06:53 PM »
What could be a system which knows not the meaning of defeat?
If you could take your time at the roulette table,while having some drinks and chatting with friends (or not), if you can afford to invest 1000 (very safe) to 1500 units (invisible),take some notes,then you may have the Holly Grail.
Wait for ALL numbers to come except one,bet the last remaining number till it comes. (maximum 200 betting spins)
It's not like betting from the beginning,usually groups of hot or cold numbers come in clusters,therefore if the number before the last delays,it'd cost only in time and when it comes,the last will be nearby.
From my personal experience,after 3 cycles (111 spins) there are 2 up to 4 numbers which have not appeared already,these remaining could come within 3 additional cycles (222 spins) but it doesn't really matter when you are not betting.
The remaining 2 up to 4 numbers could come up to 150th or 180th spin,but no matter how long would take,the before the last number never is very far from the last.
It's a winning strategy if you have the necessary requirements,you may call it the "Last Number".
But if you lack of patience,discipline,funds you should rather not play it,because mistakes during the game are costing money,remember this!


 

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Re: The Holy Grail Of Patience
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2015, 06:13:55 AM »
 If we cater to progression to get a net profit at any hit, at a regular table allowing 1 to 100 chips per number and having a huge bankroll of 5000 chips, we can't go above 184 trials. The table limits or our bankroll will stop us much before a single number's possible stretch. It is pertinent to mention here that a number can go sleeper up to 200 spins, in any session and there is absolutely no limit of a number remaining as sleeper. Even with 1 million chips and no table limits, we can't stretch betting a single number past 383 spins. I have personally witnessed a number being sleeper for 400+ spins.

 It is not a holy grail but a "suicidal" way to play roulette. It seems that author never played this himself or never even bothered to simulate this or totally not aware of maths behind playing a number for 200 spins to just win 1 chip. You need to risk about 10,000 chips with no certainty of winning even 1 chip still.
« Last Edit: May 14, 2015, 12:49:41 PM by kav »
 

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Re: The Holy Grail Of Patience
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2015, 12:41:04 PM »
Did you forget something??
I didn't say bet a number from the beginning,but AFTER you see all numbers coming except one,the last one,then and only then you start betting 1 unit for 35 spins.
By the time when you see all numbers appear except one,it could have passed 100 or 200 or 330 or 400 spins,therefore your comment is totally irevelant because I don't bet from spin number one,but waiting to remain ONLY ONE LAST NUMBER!

If you can't understand the BIG difference,then I can't help you understand it.
I'm going to give an example in order to clarify my statement:
Let's say that I randomly pick number 4 to bet with progression for 185 spins and this number happens to be the last number which is going to appear after everything else.
This way I'm going to lose my bankroll on the 185th spin, by 185th spin there are 2 numbers remaining, 4 and 36, so I wait till 213th spin which number 36 hits and at this point I'm starting my betting on number 4.
After 7 spins,on 220th spin,number 4 eventually wake up!
My profit is NOT 1 unit but: 36 - 7 = 29
I don't think you cannot understand my method,but maybe you have an intention to "blur" the topic.
Is this intentionally or not, I don't know. You know better the reason why you decide to do so...
« Last Edit: May 14, 2015, 12:50:03 PM by kav »
 

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Re: The Holy Grail Of Patience
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2015, 08:44:51 PM »
The maximum number of spins for that number to hit is 455 but you are able to subtract your watched spins from that figure.  In other words, you can get hung out to dry regardless of whether or not its the last number in the sequence of the repeating 37 numbers.
 

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Re: The Holy Grail Of Patience
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2015, 09:02:43 AM »
The Holy Grail of Patience is a good strategy.
You must have the patience to wait for the right triggers.
 

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Re: The Holy Grail Of Patience
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2015, 11:26:55 AM »
You can of course play the last unhit number only after rest of 36 have appeared. It seems you either did not understand what I pointed out or ignored it to avoid listening the hard truth. You can get all numbers but last and then last may drag you even 200-300 spins further. If you haven't seen this you have seen nothing.
             Playing the farthest or unhit is,in no way,gives u any advantage. Even if u have a fixed span to which you will try and not further, it won't work.
 

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Re: The Holy Grail Of Patience
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2015, 06:24:37 PM »
You can of course play the last unhit number only after rest of 36 have appeared. It seems you either did not understand what I pointed out or ignored it to avoid listening the hard truth. You can get all numbers but last and then last may drag you even 200-300 spins further. If you haven't seen this you have seen nothing.
             Playing the farthest or unhit is,in no way,gives u any advantage. Even if u have a fixed span to which you will try and not further, it won't work.

Well this is just your opinion,however I believe that you can never be to sure...
Even with the slightest of probabilities against you, it's gambling.
In general is harder to provide propositions,suggestions and in general something useful rather than been negative and criticise all the time.
 

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Re: The Holy Grail Of Patience
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2015, 06:26:33 PM »
You can of course play the last unhit number only after rest of 36 have appeared. It seems you either did not understand what I pointed out or ignored it to avoid listening the hard truth. You can get all numbers but last and then last may drag you even 200-300 spins further. If you haven't seen this you have seen nothing.
             Playing the farthest or unhit is,in no way,gives u any advantage. Even if u have a fixed span to which you will try and not further, it won't work.

Well this is just your opinion,however I believe that you can never be too sure...
Even with the slightest of probabilities against you, it's gambling.
In general is harder to provide propositions,suggestions and in general something useful rather than been negative and criticise all the time.
 

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Re: The Holy Grail Of Patience
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2015, 08:03:34 AM »
Opinion!!!!!!!!!
              It seems how ignorant the system preachers could be. How many spins do u suggest to play after u get only last unhit number left?
 

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Re: The Holy Grail Of Patience
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2015, 08:32:09 AM »
Patience is the Holy Grail for a strategy player. Waiting for a particular event of 10 spins, can take hours. What to do when you have not this patience?
I advise you ,try the SSB method. An EC random row or 10 consecutive Red numbers has the expectation of once on 2^10 spins. After a SSB hit you can start immediately a new odd.
The profit expectation of small sessions is nearly 50%. The game can be played very fast due to the simple key number. Visit the demonstration next week.
 

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Re: The Holy Grail Of Patience
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2015, 02:22:49 PM »
Patience is def. the key to constant winning in roulette - BUT only in live (B&M) casinos. Otherwise everything is just smoke and mirrors: RNGs (better to be called PNG - programmed numbers generator) roulette are slots which are programmed to rob your money. The live wheel online casinos also implement some shady tactics to rob you when you show constant winning.
 

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Re: The Holy Grail Of Patience
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2015, 04:31:17 PM »
Opinion!!!!!!!!!
              It seems how ignorant the system preachers could be. How many spins do u suggest to play after u get only last unhit number left?

Sorry but I was not aware that I was speaking with the law of probability!:-D
 

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Re: The Holy Grail Of Patience
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2015, 04:49:09 PM »
Patience is def. the key to constant winning in roulette - BUT only in live (B&M) casinos. Otherwise everything is just smoke and mirrors: RNGs (better to be called PNG - programmed numbers generator) roulette are slots which are programmed to rob your money. The live wheel online casinos also implement some shady tactics to rob you when you show constant winning.

If what you declare about casinos is true,then the only question is:
WHY SHOULD ANYONE BOTHER WITH ANY FORM OF GAMBLING???
Is there any point to share MY money with establishments which are adopting "shady tactics"? NO POINT AT ALL!
I believe there is a reason there are so many persons around the world who investing so much time and money for gambling.
Of course there is a minority of "pathological" gamblers,for this minority winning is not their goal,but the experience itself.
You may wonder why would someone want to lose again and again,it might sounds strange but there are masochistic persons,from one hand they know that they cannot be overall winners and from the other hand are keep doing what they were doing for years!
This is the pathological or psychological cases which I consider minor in regard with the total of the persons who gamble regularly.
I don't wish to go deeper in the psychology of gambling,just gave an example in order to justify my reasoning.
After all it's common sense not to replicate mistakes,if in something,for whatever reason,we cannot do well then we would try something else in which we can do better.
Not everyone for everything...some are better in one thing while others on different things,JUST DON'T STUCK IN A SHINKING SHIP!
 

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Re: The Holy Grail Of Patience
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2015, 05:43:56 PM »
Patience is def. the key to constant winning in roulette - BUT only in live (B&M) casinos. Otherwise everything is just smoke and mirrors: RNGs (better to be called PNG - programmed numbers generator) roulette are slots which are programmed to rob your money. The live wheel online casinos also implement some shady tactics to rob you when you show constant winning.

If what you declare about casinos is true,then the only question is:
WHY SHOULD ANYONE BOTHER WITH ANY FORM OF GAMBLING???
Is there any point to share MY money with establishments which are adopting "shady tactics"? NO POINT AT ALL!
I believe there is a reason there are so many persons around the world who investing so much time and money for gambling.
Of course there is a minority of "pathological" gamblers,for this minority winning is not their goal,but the experience itself.
You may wonder why would someone want to lose again and again,it might sounds strange but there are masochistic persons,from one hand they know that they cannot be overall winners and from the other hand are keep doing what they were doing for years!
This is the pathological or psychological cases which I consider minor in regard with the total of the persons who gamble regularly.
I don't wish to go deeper in the psychology of gambling,just gave an example in order to justify my reasoning.
After all it's common sense not to replicate mistakes,if in something,for whatever reason,we cannot do well then we would try something else in which we can do better.
Not everyone for everything...some are better in one thing while others on different things,JUST DON'T STUCK IN A SHINKING SHIP!

You should read EVERYTHING that is written, the way it is written. :) I don't say money can't be made in casino, I just STATE that money can't be make on RNG roulette or on live wheel ONLINE roulette (which is actually a live feed from casino or studio). In the case with the RNG, they are programmed to rob you. In the second case, they are using shady tactics to rob you - these are two statements that I am standing behind every time and everywhere.

If you have some experience you'll know that I'm writing the truth.
 

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Re: The Holy Grail Of Patience
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2015, 07:04:42 PM »

About RNG's,it's possible but not proven.Also,could you explain what exactly you mean by saying shady tactics?