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any 4 Numbers
« on: May 10, 2015, 08:23:24 PM »
Hi all,

new to this forum I give you my newest idea:

Take any four numbers, Doesn´t matter how you choose them. I tried:
- the last four of the day before
- the four favourites of the day before
- the four sleepers of the day before
- the last four on the marquee
- or your personal favourite numbers

How to play:
of course: bet these four numbers
progression: each number on its own with a plein-Martingale
Stop: as soon as you are in a plus
or stop: as you like after 74 or 111 spins

have fun and nice winning sessions testing this

greats
janusz


 

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Re: any 4 Numbers
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2015, 08:32:56 PM »
Welcome to the forum!
I have a question,how is the Martingale en plein progression??
 

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Re: any 4 Numbers
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2015, 08:36:52 PM »
 
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Re: any 4 Numbers
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2015, 09:04:34 PM »
Martingale name is misleading,it's single's progression or en plein in French.
 

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Re: any 4 Numbers
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2015, 04:15:08 PM »
Hi all,

new to this forum I give you my newest idea:

Take any four numbers, Doesn´t matter how you choose them. I tried:
- the last four of the day before
- the four favourites of the day before
- the four sleepers of the day before
- the last four on the marquee
- or your personal favourite numbers

How to play:
of course: bet these four numbers
progression: each number on its own with a plein-Martingale
Stop: as soon as you are in a plus
or stop: as you like after 74 or 111 spins

111 spins!?  ReallY??  You know you are so close with this...  4 stations must pay off after 124 straight losses (verified just now to over 3 trillion spins), SO you could buffer for 13 spins OR simply add 13 spins to this progression....

Could you make the progression 125 bets long?
« Last Edit: May 13, 2015, 04:38:57 PM by Reyth »
 

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Re: any 4 Numbers
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2015, 04:25:25 PM »
1) Bet 1 unit for 34 spins               
2) Bet 2 units for 17 spins             
3) Bet 3 units for 12 spins
4) Bet 4 units for 8 spins
5) Bet 5 units for 7 spins
6) Bet 6 units for 6 spins
7) Bet 7 units for 5 spins
8] Bet 8 units for 4 spins
9) Bet 9 units for 4 spins
10) Bet 10 units for 3 spins
11) Bet 11 units for 4 spins
12) Bet 12 units for 2 spins
13) Bet 13 units for 3 spins
14) Bet 14 units for 3 spins

This equals 112 spins.  Looks quite pricey too. 

So assuming I could afford it, I would spin the wheel 13 times and note which numbers drop out.  Bet 4 numbers that did not drop according to this schedule & PROFIT.

PS I haven't double checked the math on this one for payout integrity; I am just assuming you did your homework.
« Last Edit: May 13, 2015, 04:40:46 PM by Reyth »
 

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KACHING!
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2015, 04:48:25 PM »
 

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Re: any 4 Numbers
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2015, 04:54:05 PM »
LOL.  I just realized the progression is full of holes (I'm a little thick headed).

I bet 4 units 10 times thats -40 I got paid 32 for a net loss of 8 units.

The "proper" progression is:

Bet $ 1 on 4 spots for 8 spins.
Bet $ 2 on 4 spots for 4 spins.
Bet $ 3 on 4 spots for 3 spins.
Bet $ 4 on 4 spots for 2 spins.
Bet $ 5 on 4 spots for 2 spins.
Bet $ 6 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 7 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 8 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 9 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 10 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 11 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 12 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 14 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 16 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 18 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 20 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 22 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 25 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 28 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 32 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 36 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 40 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 45 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 51 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 57 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 64 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 72 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 81 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 91 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 103 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 116 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 130 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 146 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 165 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 185 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 208 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 234 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 264 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 297 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 334 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 376 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 423 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 475 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 535 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 602 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 677 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 762 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 857 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 964 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 1084 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 1220 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 1372 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 1544 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 1737 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 1954 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 2198 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 2473 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 2782 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 3130 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 3521 on 4 spots for 1 spins.
Bet $ 3961 on 4 spots for 1 spins.


And its only 75 spins, falling quite short of the needed 125.  It WOULD work (if you had $1 million & were watching the wheel) but of course the casinos know this and have established table limits that further shortens this progression.
« Last Edit: May 13, 2015, 04:59:55 PM by Reyth »
 

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Re: any 4 Numbers
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2015, 06:16:34 PM »
I´ve been off for a few days. sorry for late reply:

Reyth,

you don´t have to progress the 4unit-bet. progress every number on its own!

Stop in any plus!

see attachment
 

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Re: any 4 Numbers
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2015, 01:44:24 AM »
I'm sorry if I don't understand but your chart shows you betting all 4 at once and since you must bet all 4 numbers, you must raise them all after 8 spins to avoid losing money.  In my example I bet all 4 numbers 1 unit for 10 spins and my number hit but I lost 8 units.  Should I have done something different or something additional?

Ok, I guess you would remove that number and bet the 3 remaining...

That doesn't work out for profit very often does it?
« Last Edit: May 20, 2015, 01:58:49 AM by Reyth »
 

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Re: any 4 Numbers
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2015, 07:47:35 PM »
Reyth,

He means that each number is considered an independent bet. Each with his own progression. We have 4 different progressions running at the same time, each possibly at a different stage and level.
Whenever we are in total profit we stop all 4 and start again.
Quite a nice idea in fact.
 

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Re: any 4 Numbers
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2015, 08:02:39 PM »
Ok excellent.  I don't have time to look at this right now but it sounds very interesting. : D
 

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Re: any 4 Numbers
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2015, 01:22:06 AM »
I like it too! But should we add some criteria regarding which 4 numbers to bet?
 

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Re: any 4 Numbers
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2015, 06:26:18 AM »
4 straight up is a good number, the progressions can vary, it has to stand some total mad runs, like no hits for more than 140 spins.  I have used casinos which allow bets from 1  to 20000 on straight ups.

The most aggressive is add one each spins, remove 35 on a hit.
The most Conservative add one on a hit.

I use sometimes more numbers, in some cases start witch 35 numbers.
The progressions can be individual, on each numbers, we stop on a decent plus.

There are some of  my sessions in my threads here.

The bankroll need to be 1000:s and a session can in some cases be very long
 

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Re: any 4 Numbers
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2015, 06:31:11 AM »
The most aggressive is add one each spins, remove 35 on a hit.
The most Conservative add one on a hit.
I like very much the idea of adding one unit on hit.
If used with sleeping numbers, this can have a combined cold - hot effect without too dangerous a progression. Catching the numbers as they wake up.
« Last Edit: June 20, 2015, 06:50:01 AM by kav »