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#### Paulnewman

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##### 112 bets, covering 224 spins
« on: April 22, 2015, 01:35:23 PM »
Hi all,
a simple strategy developed on the series of 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8:
- at the begin we search a series of 4(red or black, odd or even, manque or passe)
- if we lose 7 pcs, we pass to search a series of 5
- if we lose other 7pcs, we search the series of 6
- if we lose 14pcs, we then search a series of 7
- if we lose 28pcs, we search a series of 8
- last 56pcs for win a series of 8
In total we have 112 bets that covers 224 spins.
All the times that we close a series that bring us in positive, we start from begin.

The zero ends a series, so you wait the new EC and start again so the zero is a winning shot.

Attached a session played.
« Last Edit: April 22, 2015, 10:01:22 PM by kav »

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##### Re: 112 bets, covering 224 spins
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2015, 06:40:35 PM »
Hi Paul,

First I need you to explain your system better.

Let me try to describe it to see if I have understood it correctly.

You bet on one Simple chance (Red or Black or High or Low etc.)
You bet with a parlay progression.
Your parlay progression starts with 4 steps, but if you lose, it changes over time and gets longer 5 steps, 6 steps etc.)

Well my friend. This is one of MY favorite systems. The main idea at least. I have devised it myself for personal use. I wonder where you read it. Or is it your creation? If it is then I can say that "great minds think alike" :-)

#### Paulnewman

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##### Re: 112 bets, covering 224 spins
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2015, 09:06:33 PM »
Hi Kav,
yes you play Parlay progression, and you search that a series of 4 or 5 or 6 or 7 or 8 comes out in 224 spins.
If it doesn't happen, you lose 112 coins.
Is it something you are playing already?
What is your experience?

I'm searching to earn money at roulette by playing against some events that are very rare to happen.
Is it not rare that in 224 spin, in the sorting number, there is not even a figure of 4 or 5 or 6 or 7 or 8?

Never say never, but when it will happen i will lose 112 coins, and i hope in the main time to have won much more...
« Last Edit: April 22, 2015, 09:12:48 PM by Paulnewman »

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##### Re: 112 bets, covering 224 spins
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2015, 09:19:44 PM »
But why go as far as looking for a 8 step parlay? This is very rare.
Even a 6-step will produce enough profit and it is MUCH safer.

And by the way could you please explain you reasoning behind the change of the steps?
I believe your reason to change the steps as you lose is the same as mine, but i would like to hear you.
In my opinion, you increase the steps too aggressively.
« Last Edit: April 22, 2015, 09:24:22 PM by kav »

#### Paulnewman

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##### Re: 112 bets, covering 224 spins
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2015, 09:37:28 PM »
Maybe you are right, and searching a figure of 8 is dangerous.
I'm trying like this: i search a figure of 4, so i play 1-2-4. 1+2+4= 7, so i can search a figure of series of 4 until my situation of bankroll is maximum -7.
When i start to go at -8 ecc, i have to search a figure of 5. 1+2+4+8 = 15.
Until i'm not in a situation of -15, i can search for a figure of series of 5.
Then i must go to search the figure of serie of 6...
I'm playing like this, you?

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##### Re: 112 bets, covering 224 spins
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2015, 09:49:54 PM »
I'm trying like this: i search a figure of 4, so i play 1-2-4. 1+2+4= 7, so i can search a figure of series of 4 until my situation of bankroll is maximum -7.
When i start to go at -8 ecc, i have to search a figure of 5. 1+2+4+8 = 15.
Until i'm not in a situation of -15, i can search for a figure of series of 5.
Then i must go to search the figure of series of 6...
I'm playing like this, you?
Yes! Exactly the same reasoning! But there is more in this concept.
Well, I'm telling you my friend this method has a hidden benefit.

I don't know if I should explain the benefit here or leave it for a full article in the main site.
Anyway, I'm telling you this is one of my favorite methods for Simple chances.

#### Paulnewman

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##### Re: 112 bets, covering 224 spins
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2015, 09:58:30 PM »
I tried to write you a message.
Check your inbox.
Regards

#### roulettefan

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##### Re: 112 bets, covering 224 spins
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2015, 03:08:57 PM »
hello paul and kav

i really dont understand why
when there is an interesting strategy this strategy is discussed via private message ?
why is this roulette forum supposed to be ?

is does that mean that all system here in this forum are without interest as at the end not any system work on the long run
so why hide
nothing work with roulette exept ballistic and cheat we all know that
i'm really not a newbie and really upset by this post
« Last Edit: April 23, 2015, 06:59:23 PM by kav »

#### Paulnewman

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##### Re: 112 bets, covering 224 spins
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2015, 03:46:54 PM »
Hi roulettefan,
donâ€™t worry because via private message we just have shortly discussed about a little detail.

So have you tried to play this system? What is the result?
Do you have to make any suggestion to help us?

It is a forum and we hope you are not here only for read the possible finals solution, but also give your idea and participate actively.

Regard AM
« Last Edit: April 23, 2015, 07:00:05 PM by kav »

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##### Re: 112 bets, covering 224 spins
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2015, 07:11:35 PM »
hello paul and kav

i really dont understand why
when there is an interesting strategy this strategy is discussed via private message ?
why is this roulette forum supposed to be ?
is does that mean that all system here in this forum are without interest as at the end not any system work on the long run
so why hide
nothing work with roulette except ballistic and cheat we all know that
i'm really not a newbie and really upset by this post
Hi,
First of all, please read the new rules HERE. Generic, blanket and unproductive statements like "nothing works with roulette except ballistic and cheat we all know that" are not allowed as replies to topics with specific ideas. Please read and follow the rules.

Secondly, no, it is not true that "nothing works with roulette except ballistic and cheat". This is an unproven fallacy.

If you have something useful to share or ask, you are more than welcome to post it.

Best,
Kav

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##### Re: 112 bets, covering 224 spins
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2015, 08:17:18 PM »
First we must make a distinguish between a betting scheme and a roulette system. Parlay progression is a betting scheme. On the internet I found the next parlay scheme 1-1-2-2-4-4-8-8-16-16-32.
In my SSB program I have changed  Martingale for this Parlay scheme.
The program compute a 150 spins sample.
The result is very interest. The profit is about the half of the Martingale bet.

#### dobbelsteen

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##### Re: 112 bets, covering 224 spins
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2015, 08:24:52 PM »
In the Parlay table I put in some wrong numbers.
To program the influence of the zero and  the En prison rule was to complex for this example.

#### Paulnewman

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##### Re: 112 bets, covering 224 spins
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2015, 08:36:48 PM »
Hi Dobbelsteen,
the main idea is to play a Parlay of 1,2,4,8,16,32,64.
You start searching a series of 4, so you play 1, if win play 2, if you win play 4 and if you win you have close this series and have earned 7pcs.
If you lose at any point you have -1, and start again.
When your situation is -7, the series of 4 can only make you finish with 0.
So you search a series of 5....
Any improvment is welcome.

AM

#### Paulnewman

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##### Re: 112 bets, covering 224 spins
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2015, 09:45:42 PM »
Stastically in 100 spin we have:
- 25 series of 1(25 spins)
- 12,5 series of 2(25 spins)
- 6,25 series of 3(18,75 spins)
- 3,125 series of 4(12,5 spins)
- 1,5625 series of 5(7,81 spins)
ecc

#### dobbelsteen

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##### Re: 112 bets, covering 224 spins
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2015, 08:55:28 AM »
Paul I do not understand what you mean with"start after a series of 4".
The SSB system start after a random sequence of 10 spins.
The wager is Always contrary the reference sequence.
100 Spins start on average with 50 single results