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kav

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Reverse thinking
« on: April 18, 2015, 12:34:42 PM »
Question: what money management method will you use in order to minimize your wins?


 

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Re: Reverse thinking
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2015, 03:19:57 PM »
Sorry I do not understand the question.
 

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Re: Reverse thinking
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2015, 04:08:24 PM »
Let's say you bet on Black, or whatever other bet selection. But let's take Black as an example.
As we all know it is possible that the Black dominates and you win big.
The question is:
What money management/progression would you use in order to keep  your winnings/profits LOW even if your bet  wins often.

A strange question, since we usually want to increase profits and decrease losses, but I think this question will help us do some lateral thinking.
 

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Re: Reverse thinking
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2015, 06:54:22 PM »
The minimum bet,or no bet at all.
It's pretty obvious I think.
 

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Re: Reverse thinking
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2015, 08:50:16 PM »
The minimum bet,or no bet at all.
It's pretty obvious I think.

The minimum bet, or decreasing the bet once you winning...
 

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Re: Reverse thinking
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2015, 08:54:38 PM »
As an example imagine this sequence:
WWWWLLWWWLWWWLWWWWWLWWWLWWWWWLLWL

No, minimum bet will not produce the lowest profit.
Minimum bet will produce a steady profit.
While if for example you parlayed your bets, one loss is enough to lose all your profit.

I'm not suggesting that parlay is THE way to go; just showing that the answer is not obvious at all.
This is a thought provoking question.
 

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Re: Reverse thinking
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2015, 03:08:25 PM »
After a profitable session  on the ECs you must flat betting on the contrary EC till a profit
Example; The stats of the last 50 spins show 64% B, 34% R and 2% zero.
The history board shows  R-R Z -Z-Z-R-Z-R-Z-Z-R-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z now bet  R till you have a profit. THis is the case if the stats show  the percentage B is decreased below 64%.
This method is a HG.
 

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Re: Reverse thinking
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2015, 03:31:05 PM »
A good method dobbelsteen but to claim it is a HG is, I think, an overstatement . How many spins are needed when you start betting ? What is the required bank ? Can you really guarantee that it will win within that bankroll ?
And how many players are prepared to wait  for 50 spins before betting ?
 

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Re: Reverse thinking
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2015, 04:47:09 PM »
Sorry, dobbel, but I asked a very specific question which is:
What money management/progression would you use in order to keep  your winnings/profits LOW even if your bet  wins often.

I also offered an example of a winning sequence
WWWWLLWWWLWWWLWWWWWLWWWLWWWWWLLWL

So far, people have a great problem adjusting to this strange yet simple question and offer unrelated answers. (most of which I have deleted or moved to new threads)
It is a great evidence that we are so fixated in our perceptions that we cannot think out of the box.This I believe a GREAT insight into the roulette player's mind. Most of us are stuck to a very specific way of approaching the game and can't think laterally. Too bad.
« Last Edit: April 19, 2015, 04:48:42 PM by kav »
 

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Re: Reverse thinking
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2015, 06:36:48 PM »
Sorry, dobbel, but I asked a very specific question which is:
What money management/progression would you use in order to keep  your winnings/profits LOW even if your bet  wins often.

I also offered an example of a winning sequence
WWWWLLWWWLWWWLWWWWWLWWWLWWWWWLLWL

So far, people have a great problem adjusting to this strange yet simple question and offer unrelated answers. (most of which I have deleted or moved to new threads)
It is a great evidence that we are so fixated in our perceptions that we cannot think out of the box.This I believe a GREAT insight into the roulette player's mind. Most of us are stuck to a very specific way of approaching the game and can't think laterally. Too bad.
I think level stakes would be a good contender . ( Is this the answer you were looking for kav ?  And therefore to maximise profits we should employ some form of progression ? )
 

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Re: Reverse thinking
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2015, 06:57:12 PM »
I think level stakes would be a good contender . ( Is this the answer you were looking for kav ?  And therefore to maximize profits we should employ some form of progression ? )
I'm not looking for predetermined answers. But the aim here is to MINIMIZE profits :-)
 

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Re: Reverse thinking
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2015, 11:53:40 PM »
I think level stakes would be a good contender . ( Is this the answer you were looking for kav ?  And therefore to maximize profits we should employ some form of progression ? )
I'm not looking for predetermined answers. But the aim here is to MINIMIZE profits :-)


O.K.then. Level stakes is my answer .
 

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Re: Reverse thinking
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2015, 09:31:18 AM »
Now let me put in in a different way:
There are you and another guy on a roulette table. That day the Black has a higher hit rate that Red, something like a 60% hit rate, in every 100 spins, 60 are Black.
Now there comes a guy with a gun in his hand and tells you that you all should keep betting on Black and after 100 spins he will kill the guy with the most chips.
What method would you use?
« Last Edit: April 20, 2015, 02:47:40 PM by kav »
 

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Re: Reverse thinking
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2015, 12:59:06 PM »
I can't be sure whether my way of thinking is right but if there is no limit to my bet amount i would divide my Bankroll into 40 pieces, bet on black and double my bet amount until i hit a R. Until i have reached 40 R (which will happen in 100 spins) i will have depleted my bankroll.
« Last Edit: April 20, 2015, 01:13:54 PM by sensei87 »
 

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Re: Reverse thinking
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2015, 01:44:54 PM »
The question is more complicated.
My long run theory tells me that after about 150 spins the ratio of the EC is nearly 1. The ratio 2/3  R/B is not likely. In this example betting black with a negative progression will bust you.