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#### MickyP

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##### Secrets in the numbers?
« on: March 14, 2018, 08:04:23 AM »
Secrets in the numbers? The topic has briefly surfaced in other threads.

When you walk up to a table and or record spin history, what do you see?
What secrets do those numbers hold for you?
Here is a list of numbers; how would you analyse these numbers to your benefit?
Top number is the oldest in the history. I'm interested to see what you would do. I will give 18 numbers now and the following 18 later on.

11
3
34
7
23
19
12
12
8
28
22
26
24
13
12
12
35
25

Don't chicken out! Tell us how you would play the next 18 spins.

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#### MickyP

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##### Re: Secrets in the numbers?
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2018, 08:25:06 AM »
In case you are worried that you might be proved wrong, please don't. The exercise is to hear what you read in the numbers.
Just a practical demonstration of reading spin history.

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#### Reyth

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##### Re: Secrets in the numbers?
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2018, 09:34:05 AM »

I used to play early spins but now I wait until at least 37.

Here I will clearly play DS 7-13 (KoH).  Selection of note is DS 22-27 (QoH).

Under normal conditions, I would expect these two to be hitting at a faster rate than the rest of the board.  DS 7-13 is also stronger, not just because of the most hits but ALSO because 9 and 10 have not hit for 18 spins (cumulative gapping).  Just in case we have problems, I extend my betting for a total of 27 spins.

I could also apply this approach to Quads, Streets, Splits & S/U.

Would I actually bet with real money here? No.  But I would be watching those two selections; the more spins in the history, the more solid the data is.

With these series of numbers we can also identify a three-way tie for "King Goat" in DS's 1-6, 17-21 & 28-33.  I would expect one of these to do better than the other two and one of them to do worse than the remaining one.  The resulting pattern will likely be a King Goat and a Queen Goat.

The problem with betting with only 18 spins to go on is that we really don't yet even have a LotT session logged yet and the possibility for dynamic change is high.
« Last Edit: March 14, 2018, 09:48:59 AM by Reyth »

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#### MickyP

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##### Re: Secrets in the numbers?
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2018, 09:46:17 AM »
Thanks Reyth. Interesting observation.
Will like to see what playing off the wheel produces.

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##### Re: Secrets in the numbers?
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2018, 09:54:51 AM »
I would bet (flat bet) the three sleeping streets (4-6, 16-18 and 31-33).
And I would bet #9, #10, #20 and #29. (hoping to witness a full square, corner or CarrĂ©).

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#### Reyth

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##### Re: Secrets in the numbers?
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2018, 10:15:38 AM »
Nice Dane!  I see you right there with the remaining spins left in the session awaiting your 12 distribution on both sides!

Will like to see what playing off the wheel produces.

If all you have are numbers, the wheel makes no difference.  The wheel simply provides "more felt" for statistical analysis.  Maybe there could be a method where the wheel analysis (e.g. 11 sectors for DS) and the felt analysis (e.g. 11 sectors for DS) could be analyzed for "dual corroboration"?

With only numbers in the analysis, we can make "our own wheels" to be any sequential arrangement that we wish.  If we try to mold "our wheel" to the output (i.e. creating always the "best" sector), we will encounter the REC and receive much worse statistical performance; so the key is to work with pre-established/static "wheels".

Maybe one way of doing this is to create the "wheel" from the last 37 spins, where the top of the wheel is the first spin and the "pocket" left next to it is the 37th unique spin.  I am not saying this would work and it would seem that it would create a "wheel" where the top left sector would be numbers that have hit less than expectation.

What this comes down to is creating a sequence ordering of the numbers that is DIFFERENT than the felt.  The question is, how can this be used to improve results?

Probably the best "wheel" would be a "felted wheel" where the number ordering was specifically arranged to correspond to the felt in a specific way that would allow for the "greatest" "statistical corroboration".
« Last Edit: March 14, 2018, 10:31:36 AM by Reyth »

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##### Re: Secrets in the numbers?
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2018, 01:08:26 PM »
first thing off... would see all the jumps in every other number.
if there is any cross over results, thats again need to look at.

its basically looking for a trend.

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##### Re: Secrets in the numbers?
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2018, 03:25:15 PM »
jumps in every other number

This sounds "typical rrsys" to me... You know.

For instance, one of my software does that (I think!).
Result for this numbers in attachment.
Jumps for next direction, are the red dots (chart)
Jumpboard misses a few, due to screen space (but they are all in the graph).
« Last Edit: March 14, 2018, 03:27:05 PM by ahlidap »

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##### Re: Secrets in the numbers?
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2018, 07:01:20 PM »
i play  32 19 15 4 21 2  5 24 16 33 1 20  for 6  out come in  18  spin   with little progress

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#### MickyP

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##### Re: Secrets in the numbers?
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2018, 07:17:01 PM »
SECOND SET OF 18 NUMBERS (follows the first set).
1
1
13
8
2
30
34
7
14
27
27
30
1
23
29
19
1
22

How well did you fare with your game play?

Very few participants. I suppose some prefer to keep a low profile.  No matter.

Anyone up for the next 18 numbers?

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##### Re: Secrets in the numbers?
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2018, 07:28:29 PM »
I m lucky

#### MickyP

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##### Re: Secrets in the numbers?
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2018, 07:34:05 PM »
Reyth, on the mark with your predictions. Would have been a good session for you.
Jule67, also good predictions.you got your 6 hits!

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#### jule67

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##### Re: Secrets in the numbers?
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2018, 07:39:15 PM »
I will replay the same. For 3 out in 12spin .sorry if mistake because english not my languege...

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#### Trilobite

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##### Re: Secrets in the numbers?
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2018, 09:58:25 PM »
I only look at the last 2 numbers and do that for three spins.
Then I look at the last 3, then 4, then 5 numbers for the next three spins.
Then I only look at the last 2 numbers and do that for three spins.

Then I look at the last 3, then 4, then 5 numbers for the next three spins.

That tells me most of the numbers to bet on. I also bet a few more numbers that are connected but not part of the history board...(the secret bit) lol.
So I'm usually betting between 5 & 10 numbers per spin.

My 7 wins in bold.

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34
7
23
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12
12
8
28
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13
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12
35
25
1
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« Last Edit: March 14, 2018, 10:14:00 PM by Trilobite »

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##### Re: Secrets in the numbers?
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2018, 10:02:55 PM »
I only look at the last 2 number and do that for three spins.
Then I look at the last 3, then 4, then 5 numbers for the next three spins.
Then I only look at the last 2 numbers and do that for three spins.
Then I look at the last 3, then 4, then 5 numbers for the next three spins.

That tells me most of the numbers to bet on. I also bet a few more numbers that are connected but not part of the history board.

So I'm usually betting between 5 & 10 numbers per spin.

My wins in bold.

113347231912128282226241312123525
11138230347142727301232919122

illisible ......