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#### Argus

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##### Double Dozens
« on: February 18, 2018, 12:59:21 AM »
I have been experimenting with triggers for the dozens and noticed that the last two spins, with a very minimum of red flags, would many times each show up in the next 3 spins, and one would almost always show up.  I have recorded over 1000 spins on the same airball table I use and have found these results to hold up.  The one red flag I found was a zero showing up waiting for both triggers.  It was just a matter of waiting for the next two dozens.  A zero during the betting just counted as a loss, and hardly ever changed an outcome.
My big problem was the payoff.  2/1 just wasn’t enough to flat bet with, so I thought I would progress each of the two bets separately.  It worked fine at home so I went to the casino with it.  Confusion and mistakes made it a disaster.  The system itself worked like a clock, and there was never two losses in a row. A loss is no wins after 3 bets. Then you move on to the next two triggers.
Does anybody know a simple non confusing way to bet this situation?

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#### palestis

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##### Re: Double Dozens
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2018, 02:55:37 AM »
Argus from your post is not very clear to me if you bet 2 dozens or one dozen.
It looks like you bet the very last 2 dozens, expecting one of them to repeat in the next 3 spins.
Is that correct?

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##### Re: Double Dozens
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2018, 03:13:15 AM »
That would be correct palestis!  If the last three numbers to show were 32, 17, 7  for the next 3 spins I would bet both dozen 2 and dozen 1 at the same time, unless of course one of the dozens I’m betting on comes first.  So possibly I would make 6 bets within 3 spins.  Betting on 2 dozens that have just appeared makes sure you are not betting on a bashful dozen.

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##### Re: Double Dozens
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2018, 03:55:58 AM »
I’ve been going over the numbers and I think I have solved my own problem.  It turns out I was just being greedy.  Instead of betting two numbers I will just bet one, it hits almost as often. I just checked 300 spins and there were I think 4 separate b2b losses and 2 three loss occurrences.  Those are fairly easily handled and in my opinion worth it for the rate of hits.
I think my expectations got too big when I noticed how many winners there were betting two dozens.

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##### Re: Double Dozens
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2018, 06:01:57 AM »
Instead of betting 2 numbers do you mean  2 dozens?
And now that you decided to bet one number does that mean one dozen instead of two?
And if that's the case, which of the last 2 dozens do you bet? In your example 32-17-7 do you bet the second or first dozen? or do you chose it randomly?

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##### Re: Double Dozens
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2018, 09:46:29 AM »
It seems to me too simply to win in the long run. But good luck!

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##### Re: Double Dozens
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2018, 07:25:02 PM »

Yes, I meant bet two dozen!  Now I will just bet the last dozen that showed. That would be the first dozen for three times if necessary.
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#### Argus

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##### Re: Double Dozens
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2018, 07:36:44 PM »
It seems to me too simply to win in the long run. But good luck!

It is way too simple funtomas, but to me that is the beauty of it. No waiting, not many rules. And I think short term or long term, it never changes. After all there are only 3 dozens and the ball has to land in one of them. This is not really a system as much as it is an action that triggers a reaction.

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##### Re: Double Dozens
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2018, 07:40:21 PM »

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Yes, I meant bet two dozen!  Now I will just bet the last dozen that showed. That would be the first dozen for three times if necessary.

Why bet the last dozen to show.  Why not just guess?   The results would be the exact same.

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#### Reyth

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##### Re: Double Dozens
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2018, 07:43:51 PM »
Betting randomly does not isolate a particular sequence.  Regardkless of  your overall opinion, the results are not the same, because of that.

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##### Re: Double Dozens
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2018, 07:55:28 PM »
Of course the results are the same. -FACT

Why should the probability of winning be different if you're betting on the same number of numbers???

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##### Re: Double Dozens
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2018, 08:33:57 PM »
Using a dozen that actually, physically, happened to hit just gives me a place to hang my hat rather than making up an imaginary dozen. It also insures that I am not betting on a sleeping dozen, which could sometimes mean I am cutting out an automatic loser and am therefore just picking between two possibles.
If you would take the time to check some results you would see that this is not a system per se but just taking advantage of an existing natural phenomenon.
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##### Re: Double Dozens
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2018, 08:39:19 PM »
What is the existing "natural phenomenon?"

If the probability of winning on two dozens without the "natural phenomenon" is 24/38 on the double zero wheel, then what is the probability of winning when you take into account the "natural phenomenon?"

If you go back through your data, I'm sure you will find that the "natural phenomenon" had no affect on the probability of winning.
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#### Argus

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##### Re: Double Dozens
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2018, 08:59:18 PM »
Way to ignore the actual subject of the difference between imagining a dozen or using a real one as a trigger. Are you too obstinate to say something like “You have a point there”?

The natural phenomenon is that the ball has only three dozens to choose from (barring 0-00) and can only land in one of them and will “probably” not land in the same one three times in a row.
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##### Re: Double Dozens
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2018, 10:42:56 PM »
Again,

How is it going to change the odds?

If it's just landed in one dozen two times in a row, why would it be less likely to land there on the very next spin?
« Last Edit: February 18, 2018, 10:44:48 PM by Real »