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What are the benefits of Triggers and betting Signals?
« on: October 24, 2014, 08:38:57 PM »
At first I was under the idea the Fitzroy system and the D'alembert were the same system, but after reading on both systems the Fitzroy is a little different. Here I will explain the Fitzroy System in more detail.

THE 'FITZROY' SYSTEM

THIS is quite a good system, and was very  popular but unfortunately it is barred to  most people on account of the enormous capital  it requires. To feel at all sure of ultimate  success, a capital of 10,000 units is essential,  and even then it is not absolutely infallible.  The idea of the game is to increase your  stakes by 1 unit every time, without ever
decreasing, until you have wiped out all previous  losses and gained 1 unit as well for every  ' coup ' played.  There are two exceptions to this rule. Your  first stake is always 1, but if you lose this, instead  of your next stake being 2, it is 3 ; after that it  should be 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, etc., until your task is  accomplished. Your game is finished when you can wipe out all minus quantities from  your score-sheet and bring the result to + 1  Suppose, therefore, your score-sheet shows you  to be 3, and your stake in the ordinary way  ought to be 7 ; instead of staking 7, you would  only stake 4, in order to arrive at the result of  + 1 if you win. In the event of your losing  the stake of 4 your next stake will be 8, just as  if you had staked 7 in the ordinary course of  the game the previous ' coup.' If you lose the  8 you would continue with 9, 10, u, etc.

If you win two or three stakes of 1 at the commencement you consider them as definite gains, and put them away quite apart from your capital.

Suppose you lose your first two stakes of 1 and 3, you are now out of pocket

1st Loss - 1
2nd Loss - 3

Total - 4

But in addition to getting back your previous  losses, the object of the system is to win a unit
per ' coup ' as well, consequently in order to  keep a clear record of the amount you require  to win, it is best to add 1 unit to your losses  after every ' coup.'

By far the best way to play this system is to  work it on both sides of the table. On a favorable table you will win
twice as fast and expose less money to the risk  of Zero. If only played on one side, I would
recommend the method of either follow the last bet or wait until two consecutive losses and then switch.

If you cannot raise the suggested capital of  10,000 or 20,000 units, the system can be  attempted with several small capitals of about  200 units each. It is quite possible to turn 200 into 1000 in a very short time, if you are
sufficiently lucky to avoid a bad day at the  start.

I think too many players spend too much time trying to figure out progressions. Progressions don't win the roulette, no matter how attractive they may look. What wins the roulette is the overwhelming success rate of a system after a carefully planned trigger appears.
If for example you determine that after the trigger appears, the system wins by 95% of the time within 5 spins for example, then you have a base to work with. Your progression is confined to 5 spins. Then you play with the progression numbers to make sure that when the 5% loss hits you (and it will for sure), it doesn't exceed the amount of total winnings under the 95% win rate. If it does, then even at 95% win rate the system will lose. If the 5 times you lost, the lost amount exceeds the amount you won 95 times, the net result is a loss.
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Re: What are the benefits of Triggers and betting Signals?
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2014, 09:09:29 PM »
"Trigger" = Gambler's Fallacy
 

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Re: What are the benefits of Triggers and betting Signals?
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2014, 09:33:56 PM »
"Trigger" = Gambler's Fallacy
I don't know about that, but when I press my trigger I  find the target dead on center.
 

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Re: What are the benefits of Triggers and betting Signals?
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2014, 08:23:24 AM »
This is a very fundamental and interesting issue, so I moved it to its own thread.
 

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Re: What are the benefits of Triggers and betting Signals?
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2014, 02:47:30 PM »
A system can not beat the roulette. A strategy can. AT this momet I play roulette daily in my housecasino. I use about 7 different strategys on three tables.  A strategy is built on triggers and signals.After every winning streak ,wait foor a new trigger. Withe so many strategies there are a lot of triggers.
 

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Re: What are the benefits of Triggers and betting Signals?
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2014, 10:51:00 PM »
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A system can not beat the roulette. A strategy can. AT this momet I play roulette daily in my housecasino. I use about 7 different strategys on three tables.  A strategy is built on triggers and signals.After every winning streak ,wait foor a new trigger. Withe so many strategies there are a lot of triggers.-Dobbelsteen

It doesn't matter whether or not you've just experienced a winning streak or a losing streak.  Each spin of the wheel is an independent trial.  You are no more likely to win after a loss or lose after a win.  Believing otherwise is the gambler's fallacy.  This is why it's so important for people to learn basic probability and the history of the game.  Otherwise people will continue building bad systems/methods based on such fallacies, and will never learn to think outside of the confines of their box.



"The gambler's fallacy, also known as the Monte Carlo fallacy or thefallacy of the maturity of chances, is the mistaken belief that if something happens more frequently than normal during some period, then it will happen less frequently in the future, or that if something happens less frequently than normal during ..."
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Re: What are the benefits of Triggers and betting Signals?
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2014, 10:21:47 AM »
Real your comment is dated. Every experienced rouletteplayer knows that every new result of the roulette is undependable.The papers of these site give us enough information. I have the impression you dit not read the wise lessons of Kav. The performence of all random streaks has the shape of a infinity wave.This is for Red and Black and all other chances. The performence of the profit and the loss has the same shape.The amplitude and the wavelength are not constant. A simple advice, start every session after  a losing crest and stop after aprofit The success depends on the skill of the player..
 

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Re: What are the benefits of Triggers and betting Signals?
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2014, 04:46:02 PM »
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The performence of all random streaks has the shape of a infinity wave.This is for Red and Black and all other chances. The performence of the profit and the loss has the same shape.The amplitude and the wavelength are not constant. A simple advice, start every session after  a losing crest and stop after aprofit The success depends on the skill of the player..

Utter nonsense.  Read more on the history of the game and basic probability.