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Does everyone on this forum speak English??
« on: March 16, 2017, 07:45:52 PM »

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I know that most people on this forum are ESL speakers and just to be clear, anyone that can speak more than one language is simply more intelligent (in at least accomplishment) than those that cannot. ;)

I think that " American English " is the most used second language in he world . This is mainly  because it is the "business language " of the world. Another reason is that " The English " ( British ) invaded and plundered  many other countries and subjected them to " civilised " rule and made the English language mandatory in their colonies .
IMO  , of course  !
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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2017, 08:09:31 PM »
Even countries colonized by other language speakers (e.g. PH colonized by Spain) have mandatory English in their public schools. :)
 

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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2017, 08:37:14 PM »

I was always wondering why ''civilised'' world is so Western, or shall we reverse the question, why Westernised world is so ''civilised''??
Capitalism and industrialisation, these are what Westernisation produced over the course of 2 centuries,enjoy!
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« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2017, 10:25:41 PM »

Invading other countries and killing those who object  may be civilised behaviour to you, BA but not to me. Do you really think that Capitalism and Industrialisation could not have  been accomplished without colonisation ? Seriously ?
And Reyth
WHY do these other countries make it mandatory to teach English in their schools - if not because it is the international language of business ?
 
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« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2017, 10:31:11 PM »
Yes of course, its economic.
 

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Re: Does everyone on this forum speak English??
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2017, 10:35:58 PM »
You got me all wrong Scep, actually I believe the exact opposite of what you think I believe.
 

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Re: Does everyone on this forum speak English??
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2017, 10:43:12 PM »
Well BA we sometimes DO agree   LOL !
 
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Re: Does everyone on this forum speak English??
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2017, 10:43:38 AM »
English is the common lingua franca today, has not allways been, and will not allways be. 
 

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Re: Does everyone on this forum speak English??
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2017, 12:12:51 PM »
Scep, I think your view of colonisation and the British Empire is a little simplistic. The British were not like the Vikings who conquered, killed and plundered; their interest was primarily trade ("a nation of shopkeepers"). Of course terrible things were done, often in the name of "civilising" and "educating" the "natives", but the empire wasn't all bad. Much of the "civilising" was done in the name of Christianity. Not trying to condone the whole project of course, just sayin..

Jeremy Paxman did an excellent series a few years ago on the empire, did you see it?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00p1388/episodes/guide

Of course the profits from slavery played a part in funding the industrial revolution, but there were political and other factors too. France, for example, had as much scientific expertise as the Brits, but their political system was more restrictive (and still is); the British system was (is) more "laissez faire".

Regarding language, English is dominant because Britain and the USA have invested billions in teaching it abroad. Easy communication means easy trade, so of course it's economic.

In terms of numbers of native language speakers, English is only 3rd. Mandarin is top, followed by Spanish.
 

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Re: Does everyone on this forum speak English??
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2017, 12:42:23 PM »
English become the dominant language after WWII (And even more after 1989).  In Sweden it was not the second language before WII. The traditional diplomatic language was not English.  Even today in the former colonies like India English has more importance today than 70 years ago. Expanding world trade and development in more countries has been the driven force.

Most english teachers are in Asia, by far!
 
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Re: Does everyone on this forum speak English??
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2017, 05:52:33 PM »
So we all agree that English is the world's most used SECOND language ?
 

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Re: Does everyone on this forum speak English??
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2017, 06:18:41 PM »
So we all agree that English is the world's most used SECOND language ?

Yes second, soon hardly a language, we have francanglese, curryenglish, sweinglish, inuitenglish, pidggin and so on.

"Look see warm glass"     "it is no cow on the ice"      "It is no danger on the roof"  "It is raining cats and dogs"

Cultural connections has the point here.

A lot of the internet is in the English language, but as pidgin, all speak better other language. In a discussion the argument for an English speaking, which do not have education (as it depends of parents money) can allways say how the spell was wrong or?
 

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Re: Does everyone on this forum speak English??
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2017, 06:20:01 PM »
Can anybody take part here without any kind of English? ??? ?
 

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Re: Does everyone on this forum speak English??
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2017, 06:40:29 PM »
''Does everyone on this forum speak English??''

Obviously!

''Can anybody take part here without any kind of English?''

Obviously not!
 

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Re: Does everyone on this forum speak English??
« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2017, 10:42:11 AM »
''Does everyone on this forum speak English??''

Obviously!

''Can anybody take part here without any kind of English?''

Obviously not!
Yes they can and actually do. Look this " desperate " esperanto thing.
 
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