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An Alternate Oscar
« on: March 08, 2017, 05:48:11 PM »
I was thinking about newbielink:http://www.roulette30.com/2014/01/oscars-grind-system-pluscoup-progression.html [nonactive], where when showing a loss, one increases the wager by one until a profit of one unit is shown.

But, suppose, instead of raising the wager, one raises the payout? If the situation calls for a two unit bet, make a one unit bet on one of the dozens. if, instead of a three unit bet, put one unit on an even chance, and one unit on a dozen. If, instead of a five unit bet, put one unit on a double street, and so forth.

I haven't tested this or explored it to any degree. It seems to me that you would be putting less money at risk, and thus would be able to play longer. However it also seems to me, that if you hit a long losing streak, it would tough to re-coup your losses.

Just throwing the idea out there.

Kynge
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Re: An Alternate Oscar
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2017, 06:07:32 PM »
Sounds awesome like Oscar's Parachute! :D
 
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Re: An Alternate Oscar
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2017, 06:20:50 PM »
Sound great man!
When you feel that you can share an example play, please do.
 

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Re: An Alternate Oscar
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2017, 06:38:49 PM »
Yes, a "progression" involving the payout - and not the wager - appeals to me.
 
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Re: An Alternate Oscar
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2017, 06:51:02 PM »

It's always "tough" recouping losses....regardless of whatever method is used.  I've accepted that as par for the course. The key, I believe, is a delicate balance.... part of the mystery (and fun) of investigating possible solutions.
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Re: An Alternate Oscar (Example)
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2017, 07:21:10 PM »
OK...you  buy in at a roulette table, and, like Oscar, the table "owes" you a unit. You put 1 unit on an even chance. It loses. Repeat the bet. It loses. Repeat...it loses. You lose five straight EC bets, so now you are down 6 units, counting the unit that the table "owes" you. You continue, and on the next bet, you win one unit on the even chance. You are now down 5 units.

Oscar calls for a two unit bet on the EC. Under this method, you bet one unit on a dozen. It loses. Down 6 units. You repeat the bet, and you win. Down 4 units.

Oscar calls for a 3 unit bet on EC. Under this method, you put one unit on an EC, and one unit on a dozen. It loses. Down 6 units. Same bet, and the EC wins, but the dozen loses. No change, still down 6 units. On the next bet, the dozen wins, but the EC loses. You won 1 unit. Down 5 units.

Oscar calls for a four unit bet on the EC. Under this method, bet one unit on a dozen, and one unit on a column. Both bets win, and now you are down 1 unit (basically what the table "owes" you). You bet one unit on an EC, it wins, and now you are up 1 unit.

I don't know how feasible this method is. The jury is still out on this question. I can see a situation where you're down 30 or 40 units, and you placing one unit on a single street. It will take forever to make your one unit profit. It probably needs a computer simulation to see how it works out.

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Re: An Alternate Oscar
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2017, 08:00:36 PM »
Its pretty simple to map out a "core progression" of say 20 or 30 consecutive losses?
 

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Re: An Alternate Oscar
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2017, 05:08:36 AM »
Tried this system at a local casino that has one of the Tablemaster Fusion Roulette machines, and it was an unmitigated near disaster. I quickly changed tack, and utilized the system as a D"Alembert rather than as an Oscar. This entails constantly changing the wagers every spin as opposed to staying with the same wager and changing it after a win.
 
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Re: An Alternate Oscar
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2017, 08:36:57 AM »
It may have failed, but it is still a good idea.
You only went from Even chances to dozens. What if you went to the end of the road to a single number?
Generally speaking, IMO the idea of combining increase in bet with increase in payouts is a good one!
 
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Re: An Alternate Oscar
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2017, 10:59:12 AM »
The general rool, more numbers you bet, less bank you need...  it's hold true till reasonability holds. For betting more then 13-15 numbers, required bankroll start to grow egain.
    It's posible to target single number , but need to be sure that number is bias in exact set of conditions.
     If done properly, need to have wheel that is qualified ( bias ) for such aproach,  proper study of it, and vb to predict.
   Hunting number in random may produce long periods of time without a hit. Even when number hunt is justified, huge bank may be needed.