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#### jekhb76

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##### The "24 Hour Shift" Method
« on: March 02, 2017, 07:41:55 AM »
Good morning friends,
Yesterday I spent almost 5 hours in my local casino, that is just 2 blocks away and I want to share a system with you, well not really a system more like a method. I don't quite understand all what I saw, but I will try to explain.

Yesterday I met a guy who was sitting next to me at the roulette table and what I noticed was that he was constant playing 24 numbers ! Well nothing rare here you might say, I thought so too. I remember seeing him allot at the casino, but never talked to him personal, until yesterday. I asked him if he played allot of roulette and if he had any luck with what he was playing. He told me me that his friends called him "Mister 24 Hour Shift"    I was laughing inside and thought that was one of the most unusual names I ever heard. He told me, that he was playing roulette 3 times a week. for a period of 4 hours straight, take a break and again 4 hours etc. And did this for the last 2 years.
Not because he had too, he didn't needed the money, but just for the thrill of winning. I thought to myself, 'Oh no not another one'    He told me that he had a system and never played anything else for over 2 years now. I asked him if he did win with it? He said, 'what if I told you that i never loose' yeah right....... He asked to watch him play a few rounds and so i did. What I noticed was, that he would always played 24 numbers. The first thing that came to mind were the Kavouras system (20 numbers) and the 4 pillars system (24 numbers) But this was different. It is still hard for me to analyse all the things he did, but I only know he would play 24 numbers all the time and used some kind of a weird progression method, that I never saw before. Every round that was a hit on one of his 24 numbers, were profit to him!!   He said I usually make around 500-900 euro a day doin' this.
And i've been doin' it for over two years now and never lost a cent. 2 to 3 hours gone by and I was tired so I decited that I would call it a day and go home. I played for 2 hours straight for my one before this so I start to see double at this stage, after watching all those numbers come and go. Before I left, he told me one thing to remember. 'Every spin in my system is a win' ! Remember this he said. 'A round lost is also a win for the future! He asked me if i would join him again today, to show me more of his system. Well I'm very excited for this day as you all can understand. Maybe my life would turn around again........ That got me thinking. what could he possible play that would never loose? The things I know until know. A. he always play 24 numbers each and every spin. B. I saw that he used some kind of a spin trigger. Before he would place his 24 number bet, he would let the wheel spin 6 times. C. Before spin 15 he was in profit most of the time. Is he using some kind of divider? C. What I also noticed was that he was not placing the same betting amount every round. D. The 24 numbers were always shifting around, never the same at the next spin. E. 7 units were placed at a new round. on 4 single streets and on 3 different quads, with a total of 24 numbers played. I'm very curious how this can be done for sure. The only 24 number bet I know of is the 4 pillar system, and trust me, I'm good in numbers, but I never could make a progression for this to make it work. Oh yeah, one thing he said was also, that I needed to remember that 24 numbers would never sleep more then 15 spins in a row, and that the most spins he ever saw in two years of playing with this was 12. But he said that with what he was doin' he could cover up until 15 spins !!!!!!!!!!! and still win at the end. Well some food for talk and speculation. I will be meeting him this afternoon again, maybe tonight I know more, and maybe this 24 number riddle will be made more clear. Keep you all posted for sure. Have a great day friends.[size=78%] [/size][/size][size=78%] [/size]

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#### Reyth

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##### Re: The "24 Hour Shift" Method
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2017, 09:34:18 AM »

I am inspired to see that this gentleman is close to reality; its not easy to do this, per se.

Zero can be part of the equation...

Numbers Played: 24
Street Win: +5
Loss: -7

I think the key will be his progression that is based on playing 2 dozen from the inside.  He will have a high hit ratio.  Normally 2 DZ is Win +1, Loss -2; here he is Win +3.5, Loss -7 -- VERY NICE because he can also get a higher ratio than 2 DZ will afford him from the outside!  He is probably attempting to take advantage of the probabilities that can manifest in repeating Dozens, DS, & Streets.  He is buffering his Street dozen with his Quad dozen and trying to shift them around to gain the higher ratio.  The only problem is the higher bankroll that is required due to each loss costing 3.5X more.

It looks like its alot of fun to play!  Always trying to improve above the base odds...

Watch out for:

1) Repeating Dozens
2) Missing Dozens
3) Repeating DS
4) Repeating Streets
5) Missing DS
6) Missing Streets
7) Zero hits
8] Zero sleeping
« Last Edit: March 02, 2017, 10:12:32 AM by Reyth »

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#### jekhb76

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##### Re: The "24 Hour Shift" Method
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2017, 10:04:40 AM »

I am inspired to see that this gentleman is close to reality; its not easy to do this, per se.

A probable key first of all is to identify a single DS that has repeated.  Obvious a single dozen that has gone missing is quite valuable.

Another is to identify a particular street that has repeated.  Zero can be part of the equation...

So if we ever see a street repeat, it will automatically be within a particular DS.  I guess the trick will be how to lay out the rest of the quads and if 0 should be included...

Numbers Played: 24
Street Win: +5
Loss: -7

Good morning.
you are right Reyth, i've made that conclusion also. this should be one of the most uncommon systems being played I have ever seen. yesterday I couldn't make it out what he was doing because he did so many different things. every spin was different. the bets were never the same. 'm a non believer in the Holly grail myself, because I always believe i'm what i see. But it doesn't mean it isn't possible to beat roulette on the long run. some have done it in the past 200 years. if it were all luck, who knows. that we in theory know that 15 spins without one of 24 numbers is a once in a lifetime event, it does 't mean it couldn't reach 16 or 17 spins. that we never saw this happend, doesn't mean it's impossible. it's all about knowledge. I'm an amateur astronomer and that counts for that topic also. one simple question, does not always have a simple answer. if we say that there is no alien life in the universe, doesn't mean we are right, just because we never saw it. as for his method, i'm really, really curious how he does it, and that my mind will understand it. the only thing in my mind he need, is a very special progression for 10-12 spins. something very very special. if that is the case then we have a winner. but i doubt it. we'll see. i will meet him again around 4pm cet.
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##### Re: The "24 Hour Shift" Method
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2017, 02:29:47 PM »
On the face of it not a good idea  IMO
If he doesn't win EVERY spin then it would be better to bet AGAINST his 24 numbers.
How much bankroll is needed if it can go 14 spins without a win ?
Anyone who thinks this could work could practice with my 3Different Sets of 12.  Bet, perhaps, the sleeper of the 3 sets   ? Or bet the sleeper hoping that it will awake ? Could be bet as  splits thus reducing the outlay.
Still, I look forward  to jek's update. Hopefully he will ask the guy what bankroll he uses for this.

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##### Re: The "24 Hour Shift" Method
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2017, 07:58:53 PM »
Very interesting. Ive been playing around with different theories based on 24 since Jekhb76 posted this. Looking forward to his update! I will re-read his original post a few more times

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#### jekhb76

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##### Re: The "24 Hour Shift" Method
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2017, 08:21:06 PM »
Hi friends, It was a very long day, with allot of information that is still finding a place inside my brain

I would like to keep this a short post, because i'm very tired, I will be adding information tomorrow.
But what a day folks. I never saw a man before that was able to place his bets so fast in my entire life.

What I've learned today is the following.

1. Track until you've got 13 unique numbers, this leaves us our 24 unique numbers.
2. Then when you have you're unique 24 numbers, they need to be bet in the most profitable was with the least amount of units. minimum units bet is always 6 with a max of 8 units per session.
3. 98% of the time the session will end within 3 spins with an exception of 5 spins, never more.
4. 12 Unique numbers x 3 = 36 numbers excluding the zero, that's why we track 13 numbers, it is because of this.
5. 12 x 3 = 36 so every hit is also within 36 / 12 spins. (3)
6. Every new round produce 24 unique numbers, so we have every round a new betting layout.
7. We bet 3 spins with a +1 progression on all units.
8. If we didn't get a hit in spin 3, we keep our bets in place but the same amount and spin till hit. (5 max)
9. after 5 spins we start a recovery progression until we are in profit (don't know the full of this yet)
10. he left me, with + 460 euro in his pocket.

hope you can do something with this information.
tomorrow more. My head is spinning like a train.   so it is early bedtime for me.
Take care friends.
« Last Edit: March 02, 2017, 08:22:51 PM by jekhb76 »

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##### Re: The "24 Hour Shift" Method
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2017, 09:03:54 PM »

1. Track until you've got 13 unique numbers, this leaves us our 24 unique numbers.

Do you mean that no number has been repeated??

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##### Re: The "24 Hour Shift" Method
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2017, 10:33:28 PM »

1. Track until you've got 13 unique numbers, this leaves us our 24 unique numbers.

Do you mean that no number has been repeated??

No. U just need to keep spinning until you have 13 numbers out. if they repeat during spinning, that's no problem. Just remember to stop when there are 13 different numbers out. then you have a set of 24 unique numbers. Here is where the journey begins !

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##### Re: The "24 Hour Shift" Method
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2017, 11:29:05 PM »

1. Track until you've got 13 unique numbers, this leaves us our 24 unique numbers.

Do you mean that no number has been repeated??

No. U just need to keep spinning until you have 13 numbers out. if they repeat during spinning, that's no problem. Just remember to stop when there are 13 different numbers out. then you have a set of 24 unique numbers. Here is where the journey begins !

Betting 24 numbers with 1 chip on each means you win  12 chips on a win and 24 on a loss - 48 on 2 losses and even  if he wins 12 on the 3rd he has lost 36 chips. and if he loses 3 in a row he has lost 72 chips .If , as you say, he doesn't start his progression until the 4th or 5th  loss he will need a large bankroll .  Much of the time he may win on his first spin but even so I can't see the logic.
Ask him what his bankroll size is jek - and take a note of WHEN he increases his bet size,
If  he is betting on sleepers  he should beware of The Law of the Third .

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##### Re: The "24 Hour Shift" Method
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2017, 11:42:56 PM »
I am trying to understand this. So after you get 13 unique numbers hit, you are left with 24 numbers unhit. So #2 bet those unhit numbers the most profitable way. Meaning not betting red or black, but covering those numbers that pay the most of it... so streets, corners, splits, and double streets essentially covering no more than 8 units.

The first bet with 8 units? The second bet is 16? third bet is then 24? Fourth and fifth bets are 24 each? If you dont hit within 5 spins you are down almost 100 already

So if this is the method... it is involved to monitor, then make a decision where to place your 8 bets. Ive done it a few times. After three sessions of picking 24 numbers, I was up (two wins, one loss). The question now is if you lose what is a recovery progression.

EDIT: What we also see from Jeks first post is the player bets 7 units on 4 single streets and 3 quads based on 24 missing numbers.

I have to thank Jek for taking the time to write all this down. If someone says out of the blue watch my bets on the board... thats not an easy task especially if bet amounts and different bets on different numbers. Tricky. Thanks for transcribing what you witnessed!
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##### Re: The "24 Hour Shift" Method
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2017, 12:29:51 AM »
Like you Jake I struggle to understand how he can rely on 24 unhit numbers to fit nicely into his  4streets and 3 quads every  time . Even if they do it still leaves 2 streets unhit  .
And he wins500-900 Euros EVERY day he plays it  ? Never a loss !  I find it strange. More info needed .

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##### Re: The "24 Hour Shift" Method
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2017, 06:09:47 AM »
Good morning friends.
What a night  took me a long time to catch my sleep, my head was spinning all the time. When lying in bed I was over thinking all the information i got yesterday and it's a lot. i still don't understand how he does it, ans i was there next to him. so it's not strange that non of you guys don't get it. a few asked what his bankroll was. well he told me that all he ever needed was 1500 euro. and that is imcluding money for his recovery method. but he told me that in two years he never needed his full bankroll for betting. furthermore, he didn't always used streets, corners, quads etc. it was always depending wich 24 numbers came out to be the unique ones. in one scenario, he could bet on streets, and quads, one or two single numbers in it. I don't know what calculations he used for his betting, but let's say he could use 1 split, 2 streets 2 quads, 1 double street and a 2 single numbers, the income were;
+ 18 (10) +12 (4) +12 (4) +9 (1) +1 (9)
+ 6 (-) +36 (28) +36 (28). when loss - 8.

the first hit is always + except when hitting the double street. then it's -2 these bettings can turn into profit with a right progression after  3 spins. i don't know if i saw it right but one time he would not get a hit on the first 3 spins. he then stopped, he said now i have to calculate my loss and take the loss into a new round for my recovery system to start. within a spin or 8 everything was in profit. don't ask me how, but this is what the result werem he then started over. I need a few more meetings with him to see everything again and again, it is still hard. we'll get there, trust me. have a nice day friends.

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##### Re: The "24 Hour Shift" Method
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2017, 04:46:12 PM »
Thanks jek
What units does he use ? \$1 \$5 \$ 25 -( or Euros whatever  )

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##### Re: The "24 Hour Shift" Method
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2017, 07:45:00 PM »
WoW I'm very surprised to discover this topic now.

Maybe you met the legendary MrTalos guy, in which casino it was ?. Many hints are close to his system he presented here except the fact we know he's playing Ec his first 2 bets. Or or or ....

Jerome.
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##### Re: The "24 Hour Shift" Method
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2017, 08:12:04 PM »

jekhb76,

Thanks for posting, I always enjoy reading interesting other ways people play.  Next week I'm going to show you one of the ways I play.  Have to put it in order then I'll post.  Always good to have an arsenal of choices while at the table.

When you get a chance answer this question:

Does a bet being made in this system also cover already hit numbers?  For instance in the 13 numbers 2,4,5,9 have come out.  How would he cover 1, 3, 6 ?

Best,
RouletteMan
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