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Single number progression
« on: February 18, 2017, 12:40:37 PM »
3 units x 12 spins
2 units x 12 spins
1 units until hit

On a hit start over with 3 units bet.
The idea is to bet a number with many units when it is hot.


 
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Re: Single number progression
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2017, 01:16:39 PM »
  thanks for this post kav,
since I am a big fan, but a serious one of the one number method I will play with this idea. good protection with the 1 unit until a hit is important, and because we do often get a repeat after a sleeper awakes and hit, a 3 units bet seem to be the right bet and can build you a small fortune .I play something similar to this method, never go for sleepers and love it. patience here is key. another option if one plays the automated roulette since it gives you speed, is to simply play a virtual bet instead of a 1 unit, but either way it is good protection. if you take care of your down side the up side will take care of itself. will keep you posted.
 
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Re: Single number progression
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2017, 01:41:38 PM »
A 1 number bet is allways a short run event.The future is unpredictable.Without a strategy it is doomed to fail.
 

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Re: Single number progression
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2017, 08:10:53 PM »
3 units x 12 spins
2 units x 12 spins
1 units until hit

On a hit start over with 3 units bet.
The idea is to bet a number with many units when it is hot.

Or it could be 2 units for 12 spins, 1 unit for 12 more and then stop and change target.
 
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Re: Single number progression
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2017, 12:27:13 AM »


the changing of target if I dont hit for a cycle of 38 spins, (american roulette) is a must in my book. when you are playing a awakening number, you are not predicting as much as you are following what is happening in the game right now. I tried both ways to play a single number. playing the sleeper and playing the favorite.
I will always follow the trend, for at least 1 cycle,especially if it is a number that I have just won with.
it has work great for me and reduce the longevity of losing streak. not a opinion, just a fact.
and also another fact;  not all cycles are created equal. they last 38 spins, but there are some that demand a biggest investment.
 
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Re: Single number progression
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2017, 12:53:38 AM »
I have agonized over this topic of whether "to switch" or "not to switch" and I have been a strong advocate of both sides. 

Ultimately, the odds are the greatest for the number that has hit the longest ago to hit, in the next spin.

There is no actual way to avoid "the longest streak", not even by switching numbers.

Statistically, staying on the same number will work out better in the long run.  If we can't handle the worst streak then we need to do at least one of these:

1) Increase our bankroll
2) Decrease the severity of our progression
3) Change our bet selection
4) Improve our bet selection method <=== the most difficult

If you are a "switch" advocate, I know its hard to accept that "not switching" is the best thing statistically speaking but what coverted me was not being able to dodge the worst streak even though I switched numbers while watching the number I just left, hit and watching this happen too many times.

Does this mean I never switch numbers?  NO.

I use the same statistical facts to switch numbers after every hit because it is also true that the number that his hit most recently is the least likely to hit in the next spin.

I haven't found a way yet to "out bet select" random and so when I switch numbers, I just choose randomly.
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Re: Single number progression
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2017, 01:21:02 AM »
 
 I have not lost 150 spins without getting a hit yet in real live play. but I have at home with rx.  some marquee dont show any repeats during certain cycles. at those time playing randomly is probably the best, or not even play.
 roulette to me is more of a art then a science.
its all good. thanks for sharing .
 
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Re: Single number progression
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2017, 02:38:02 AM »
having different approaches for inside betting would be interesting, most of betting systems with recovry/betting scedule are based on Ec and outside bets.

Yes , i know that looking for triggers and putting meaning/ value on past spins is fallacy, but do we have to neglect every passed spin that has occured? if you are not AP , is every spin really independent?

If yes? than everything using a system/ waiting for triggers and so on is just useless. cause it simpel would mean that roulette is a 100 % game of chance/luck.

If not? than there is still the problem on how we interpret passed spins. me personaly if i look at the history i only look at the past 100 and past 50 spins.  But what to do with all those numbers. if you let 10 different players see the same 100 numbers and narrowing it down to last 50, we would probably get 10 different conclusions and approches.

we all know that numbers can come in clusters, and including some of hot numbers in you selection is not a bad idea most of the time. New problem: hot numbers can turn could, but when is the momentum starting to shift? we dont know.

I cant talk for everyone here, but when a system is tested with all there is to it (bet selection, adecate bankroll, moneymanagement, good recovery system and so on) and you feel good with it. Do you stick with this system during the whole periode you're playing at the table?

In my opinion we have to understand that roulette has no consistency, anything can happen

If you approach the game playing it with a one system, and hope for the best, seems to me you will get out of it losing in the end.

roulette is chaotic, and the following is just a thought, but maybe you are better off playing it chaotic but structed. i dont know.

As i said, numbers come in clusters, and you have hot numbers. what if we consider a group of number equal to a certain betting system.

what i mean is, if numbers can get hot, so can different betting systems. maybe its not about waiting for triggers, for certain numbers to come out, maybe its looking for which betting system would be adecuate using in certain condition and which can shift spin after spin.

long story short: instead of playing 1 system and getting it to survive with a strong moneymanagement, wouldn't it be better to swith playing systems instead of hoping your recovery system solves your problem?

 

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Re: Single number progression
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2017, 04:51:17 AM »
Every sequence of numbers will generate a hit based on no more than about 450 numbers bet upon, so any successful method will be able to handle that.  Obviously we can't bet 450 numbers in a single spin.
 

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Re: Single number progression
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2017, 05:34:31 AM »
   
 after playing for over 30 years, all i can said is that I can go play live and win a minimum of 100 units per day.

I can do that only by playing a single number. I have tried so many other methods. they would win at home but took a beating in the casino. cant explain it.

I heard someone said long ago; there is such thing as having a system that would only work for a player but not another. so now I dont try to convince that what I play would work for someone else because it may not, for whatever strange reason. maybe it is like having a personal relation ship, who knows?
what works for you you should pursue because you may be doing something that works that you may not even be aware of. God bless.
 
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Re: Single number progression
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2017, 07:38:22 AM »
Stay or shift, it is something we know which was best afterwards.  I did a play using allways number 14. Running it until  40 units plus. It took 189 spins (autospin a table pays 37).

It was run in blocks of 50 spins. Reset on new plus.
After 50 spins high the bet with one.   

We can be losing a lot of spins, and if we shift or not, we only know after if it was useful.
 
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Re: Single number progression
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2017, 08:43:02 AM »

Or it could be 2 units for 12 spins, 1 unit for 12 more and then stop and change target.

Nice feedback.
It could be 2x12spins then 1x12spins and then no bet untill hit. After a hit start over with 2 units.
 
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Re: Single number progression
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2017, 09:10:50 AM »

Or it could be 2 units for 12 spins, 1 unit for 12 more and then stop and change target.

Nice feedback.
It could be 2x12spins then 1x12spins and then no bet untill hit. After a hit start over with 2 units.

Yes, but while wait why not pick another one?
 
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Re: Single number progression
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2017, 09:31:56 AM »
Yes, but while wait why not pick another one?
Call it a matter of personal preference or playing style.

I prefer to focus on a specific bet and record its history, know where I'm standing and why I'm losing. I want to track, have stats and know everything about the "history" of my bet selection. I feel more confident and comfortable this way.
If it is cold I can wait for it, betting low or nothing (like you suggested) and attack harder when it gets warm. 

Changing bet selection is like shooting on a moving target. Having the same bet selection is like waiting for your target to get out of cover.
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Re: Single number progression
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2017, 10:15:35 AM »
Yes, but while wait why not pick another one?
Call it a matter of personal preference or playing style.

I prefer to focus on a specific bet and record its history, know where I'm standing and why I'm losing. I want to track, have stats and know everything about the "history" of my bet selection. I feel more confident and comfortable this way.
If it is cold I can wait for it, betting low or nothing (like you suggested) and attack harder when it gets warm. 

Changing bet selection is like shooting on a moving target. Having the same bet selection is like waiting for your target to get out of cover.

You wouldn't remove your original selection but just add one more while you are waiting for it to come back.
For example you start betting number 1, after 24 spins has not hit and you are down by 36 units.
You stop betting number 1 and gets in the standby list, but you start betting the split 0/1 with 4 units for the first 6 spins plus 2 units for the next 6 spins.
Should split 0/1 goes to standby list too, you stop betting it and start betting 0/1/2 street with 6 units for 4 spins and 3 units for 4 more spins.
Guess what, street 0/1/2 street didn't show, stop betting that street and start betting corner 0,1,2,3 with 8 units for 3 spins and 4 units for 3 more spins.
Should you continue escalating your selection, then you omit 0,1,2,3 quad and replace it with the line 1 to 6, bet 12 units for 2 spins plus 6 units for the next 2 spins.
Guess what's next, if you said dozen 1 you were correct, so bet 24 units for the first spin and 12 units for the second.
Final betting level the EC's which include number 1 (the original number), you bet Low, Red and Odd from 9 units each for 1 spin, on the next final spin you bet only Low with 9 units.
If you are so unlucky and lose all 7 bet levels it would cost you 7 x 36 = 252 units
You might want to restart the procedure from scratch with different number and higher unit value.
When you win at any bet level there are 2 possibilities, if you won by the original number (your target), continue by betting straight up that number, but if you win by another number then just drop 1 bet level, for example if you were at corner bet, after your win move to the street bet level.