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On the live wheel some bets are a little better than others.
« on: September 05, 2014, 10:29:48 PM »
On the live wheel, some numbers can be a better bet than others.

The reason is because of subtle biases that may be present on the wheel. 

The most widely bet numbers are the 0,00 and 17.  If a wheel is subtly bias for those numbers - due to residue, etc.. then the table may reflect a lower profit since those numbers are receiving the most action.  Consequently the casino is going to react more quickly to correct them, if they're perceived as running a bit too hot.  In general, the numbers 0,00, and 17 will tend to get a little extra attention from maintenance, especially if a table loss occurs. ( Of course, most of the time, a table loss would be due to variance.) 

The numbers that people tend to bet on less frequently will have a greater chance of being overlooked by the casino, since they're unlikely to affect the table's win.
Consequently,  the numbers on the edges of the layout ( tend to have fewer bets placed on them) and have a greater chance of running hot.

For example the numbers, 3,4, 33,34 would be more likely to persist as bias than the numbers 0,00 and 17.

I know this sound like superstition,  however, I have data to back up my observations.

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« Last Edit: September 06, 2014, 03:36:56 AM by Real »


 

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Re: On the live wheel some bets are a little better than others.
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2014, 09:44:57 AM »
Great post!
Are you referring to the American roulette wheel?
 

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Re: On the live wheel some bets are a little better than others.
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2014, 11:44:13 PM »
On the live wheel, some numbers can be a better bet than others.

The reason is because of subtle biases that may be present on the wheel. 

The most widely bet numbers are the 0,00 and 17.  If a wheel is subtly bias for those numbers - due to residue, etc.. then the table may reflect a lower profit since those numbers are receiving the most action.  Consequently the casino is going to react more quickly to correct them, if they're perceived as running a bit too hot.  In general, the numbers 0,00, and 17 will tend to get a little extra attention from maintenance, especially if a table loss occurs. ( Of course, most of the time, a table loss would be due to variance.) 
17 is the most popular number in Europe too. There are  reasons for it.
1. It's the middle number on the layout. The 1st number the eye falls on.
2 It's the first number bordering  what is called VOISINS. (a quick bet covering from 22 clockwise to 25). So they use 17 as security bet.
3. And most important of all, 17 belongs to the  ORPHELINS BET (which covers 8 numbers 1-20-14-31-9-17-34-6). In European casinos you give the dealer a chip of multiples of $5 ($10, $15,$20 $25 etc.)and you announce ORPHANS BET. If any of those 8 numbers come you get paid 1:17 Except 1 and 17 get paid 1:35 which is a great advantage for the player..
Of course the zeros are popular because they have different color and also players play them out of fear or security for even bets.
And I haven't seen a WOMAN PLAYER yet that doesn't bet on zero. 
 

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Re: On the live wheel some bets are a little better than others.
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2014, 01:33:11 AM »
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If any of those 8 numbers come you get paid 1:17 Except 1 and 17 get paid 1:35 which is a great advantage for the player..-Palestis

Palestis,

The Voisins bet is not advantageous for the player.
As a matter of fact, it would be wise for players to bet on numbers other than the 17 or 0 (for reasons described above).

-Real
« Last Edit: September 07, 2014, 01:22:35 PM by kav »